YoloinOhio Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 @BuffRumblings: Jim Kelly might need more cancer surgery http://t.co/qK6M0uGykJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Praying for Jimbo that he doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I wondered if the "cancer free" declarations were a little premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I wondered if the "cancer free" declarations were a little premature. I wondered that myself. Aren't they supposed to wait 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) I wondered that myself. Aren't they supposed to wait 5 years? For cancer free, 5 years is considered as the minimum. Wording on Kelly's situation should've been different. Hopefully things work out for Jimbo and his family. Let me add things vary from cancer to cancer. Some types of cancer are considered as incurable. As in yes, a person may have gone 5 years w/out a reoccurrence, but w/ the type of cancer they have it may be expected to return w/in x amount of time. It's all based on the type of cancer an individual has. Edited September 14, 2014 by thanes16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I've spoken to a few who would know---they were surprised he didn't get radiation with his original surgery in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I've been through this kind of thing with my father in law. Jim Kelly, fight on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) I wondered that myself. Aren't they supposed to wait 5 years? Not quite - different things. I think you're talking about the "5 year survival rate" which is a statistic examining longer term impact of different types of cancer. No oncologist ever declares a patient "cancer free". The official term is NED (no evidence of disease). They observe the area where the primary cancer was located by whatever technology is appropriate (PET scan, MRI, xray with contrast, CAT scan, fluorescent labeling if available). They take biopsies and send them for histopathology. If they don't find anything, they declare the patient has "NED". That doesn't mean metastases (tumors of the same cell type as the original) can't pop up in new locations. When a patient is NED and no metastases are detected for 5 years, depending upon the type of cancer the chances of long term survival may become very good (for others, not so much). I've spoken to a few who would know---they were surprised he didn't get radiation with his original surgery in 2013. There is no one established protocol for many cancers. The best recommendation can vary depending upon a lot of details. It's also appropriate for the patient to assess the benefits and risks of various treatments and make a choice. From various quotes, it sounds like radiation is something Jim Kelly worries about, so perhaps it was recommended and he turned it down. We don't know and it's non of our business. Everyone is an expert oncologist from a distance, until they get up close and personal with an individual, the specifics of his disease, his family, and his choices. Edited September 14, 2014 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Not quite - different things. I think you're talking about the "5 year survival rate" which is a statistic examining longer term impact of different types of cancer. No oncologist ever declares a patient "cancer free". The official term is NED (no evidence of disease). They observe the area where the primary cancer was located by whatever technology is appropriate (PET scan, MRI, xray with contrast, CAT scan, fluorescent labeling if available). They take biopsies and send them for histopathology. If they don't find anything, they declare the patient has "NED". That doesn't mean metastases (tumors of the same cell type as the original) can't pop up in new locations. When a patient is NED and no metastases are detected for 5 years, depending upon the type of cancer the chances of long term survival may become very good (for others, not so much). There is no one established protocol for many cancers. The best recommendation can vary depending upon a lot of details. It's also appropriate for the patient to assess the benefits and risks of various treatments and make a choice. From various quotes, it sounds like radiation is something Jim Kelly worries about, so perhaps it was recommended and he turned it down. We don't know and it's non of our business. Everyone is an expert oncologist from a distance, until they get up close and personal with an individual, the specifics of his disease, his family, and his choices. Everyone doesn't like radiation therapy, but in my experience, it's very rare that if it is recommended, a patient will refuse it. I think this is especially true in a hard to reach (surgically) malignancy. My guess is that original surgeon figured he got it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Damnit man. Not what any of us needs to hear. Bills Nation prays for you and your family every day Jim Kelly. You are gonna be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Prayers up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfbillsfan Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 !@#$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Was watching Jim speaking at the Ralph Wilson memorial event from Friday and was thinking he looked and sounded lot stronger than he did even at the HOfF ceremony just a month ago....damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Was watching Jim speaking at the Ralph Wilson memorial event from Friday and was thinking he looked and sounded lot stronger than he did even at the HOfF ceremony just a month ago....damn! on my to the game but stopping to pass along this from my hospital chaplain wife (revnjoisy): often the cancer is shrunk by radiation/chemo to the point where minor surgery can now be used to "clean things up". I would think this means they see something a little suspicious so they are going in to safely remove it. -RichNJoisy (now on to the Tailgate!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Is there anywhere to see his pregame speech today? I got there just after that, and I know I missed an emotional event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts