RuntheDamnBall Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 If Orton was the Bills' starting QB, people would be bitching about his inability to throw deep and his penchant for coming up small in pressure situations. Orton is a good backup QB who has plateaued as a safe game manager type who can only take a team so far. I'd be happy to have at OBD him over both Tuel and Lewis of course. You pretty much said it all right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Op - please modify thread title to "same freaking discussion about orton as every other retired, soon to be cut, second or third string QB pro, college high school and arena league vs ej and how they are all obviously better." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I think people are forgetting that when you bring in a QB this late in the year like the Bills did with T-Jax they are not doing anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Op - please modify thread title to "same freaking discussion about orton as every other retired, soon to be cut, second or third string QB pro, college high school and arena league vs ej and how they are all obviously better." Orton, to me, is a unique case of a guy who has had a little more success than others. I wish the OP had framed it as Orton to push EJ or Orton as a #2, which makes all sorts of sense to me. I would back up the money truck for Orton and I'm not joking. I think he would be good for our situation, even though I really don't want him as the starter. He would have made a ton more sense than Kolb. In fact, he is the guy that OBD wished Kolb could have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I want Orton. If Orton comes, he starts. He is just too much better than our QBs to sit the bench. EJ refuses to throw the ball downfield. He seems to "look" downfield only to give the backs enuf time to get open in the flat. And dont give me that crap about "oh, how do you know what play was called? Blah blah blah." EJ hasnt even tried. He doesnt WANT to throw downfield. He wants to throw to guys who are obviously open. I agree, he starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I agree, he starts In no situation other than a train wreck does a guy arrive in week 4 of the preseason and start. That's delusional thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I'd sign Orton. Orton would need some time to learn the offense which would give EJ time to prove he's ready to step up. I'm not sure how long I'd wait but at some point if EJ wasn't producing, I'd hand things over to Orton (who is not a bad QB). Even if Orton didn't end up starting, he'd be a good mentor for EJ and an insurance policy if EJ got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 are you talking about trying to win preseason games (descent plan) or regular season games ? (poor plan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 are you talking about trying to win preseason games (descent plan) or regular season games ? (poor plan) It does sound like a plan for descent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Here's a better question: who is better, Kyle Orton after he completed his rookie year, or EJ after he completed his rookie year? It's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I still can't billieve this is a thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Kyle Orton did go to Purdue, QB U. but he looks too much like JP so I will have to say NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 I still can't billieve this is a thread Why, because you can't believe that we're in a situation that would make Kyle Orton the best QB on our team if added? It's where we are at sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Here's a better question: who is better, Kyle Orton after he completed his rookie year, or EJ after he completed his rookie year? It's not even close. I'd sign Orton. Orton would need some time to learn the offense which would give EJ time to prove he's ready to step up. I'm not sure how long I'd wait but at some point if EJ wasn't producing, I'd hand things over to Orton (who is not a bad QB). Even if Orton didn't end up starting, he'd be a good mentor for EJ and an insurance policy if EJ got hurt. I think In no situation other than a train wreck does a guy arrive in week 4 of the preseason and start. That's delusional thinking. ...we just went 4 pre-season games with the starters not scoring a touchdown against other starters. It might be a train wreck. But point taken, he's not starting week 1. If our offense doesn't show up for 3 weeks, he could start week 4 though. It really is odd to me that they saw what happened with the lack of a quality backup QB last year (in starting both Tuel and Lewis) and didn't address it this year. Signing Dixon is not addressing the situation. I understand last year the plan was to have Kolb and he got hurt. Fine, things happen. But what's the excuse for this year? It seems totally irresponsible. Edited August 25, 2014 by disco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 But what's the excuse for this year? It seems totally irresponsible. I tend to agree with this half of your post. I am not so worried about performance against the 1s given that other teams haven't had to face our full crew of 1s either (Watkins + Woods being on the field at the same time, for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Tebow. Do it Doug. Edited August 25, 2014 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Tebow. Do it Doug. He could just purchase a pistol and aim at his navicular bone to get the same effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 The 49ers and Colin Kaepernick have scored either six or nine points total with their first string offense. No Tds in three games. That can only mean one thing: Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Finally, a "we need a new QB because all of ours suck" thread! I was wondering when somebody would start one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 The 49ers and Colin Kaepernick have scored either six or nine points total with their first string offense. No Tds in three games. That can only mean one thing: Nothing. :worthy: :worthy: :worthy: :worthy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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