KOKBILLS Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Was listening to GR on the irde home yesterday and "COACH" Sal stated emphatically and categorially that EJ was NEVER going to be any better that a LOW 60% completion percentage QB. It's over. Lets bring in TEBOW! This is a pretty broad misrepresentation concerning Sal's opinion of EJ...Sal has been...mostly...an EJ defender...He compares EJ's upside to Steve McNair...Yes he thinks EJ will never be a QB that challenges a 70% completion rate, but he also does not believe that will be a bust...He's never even come close to saying that and I listen to the guy all the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Was listening to GR on the irde home yesterday and "COACH" Sal stated emphatically and categorially that EJ was NEVER going to be any better that a LOW 60% completion percentage QB. It's over. Lets bring in TEBOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 A positive evaluation of EJ from a self-described EJ skeptic. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-opinion/2014/8/19/6043679/ej-manuel-analysis-scouting-bills-vs-steelers-preseason kj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 All the tools are there, now it's up to Hackett to coach and come up with plays that suit them. Sadly, this is where we probably fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Which of the QBs in your new signature will be better than Landry Jones, Tebow, and Skelton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Jim Kelly's carreer completion rate: 60.1% And the only QB to lead the Buffalo Bills to league championships, Jack Kemp, was consistently UNDER 50%. I know it was a different game back then but just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills -N- Bills Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 This board gets worse and worse everyday. If you dont like what the thread is about then dont !@#$in read it and reply to it. 60% of the replys to any thread on this board are either bitching about someone starting a new thread, "IN", or bashing the OP for his opinion or take on the situation he is writing about. Why can the mods fix this? Or atleast adress it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dog Named Kelso Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 This board gets worse and worse everyday. If you dont like what the thread is about then dont !@#$in read it and reply to it. 60% of the replys to any thread on this board are either bitching about someone starting a new thread, "IN", or bashing the OP for his opinion or take on the situation he is writing about. Why can the mods fix this? Or atleast adress it. Yea or giving their opinion based on the OP incorrect post. What is up with people?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I heard Sal talking about it as well. Here is what i gathered: -He said that when the Bills drafted him, they knew they weren't getting the most accurate guy in the world and that he believes his ceiling would be about 60%. -It's not fair to call him captain checkdown because he was taking what was given. -He's seen some progress but wishes EJ was better at certain things. IMO, it was a pretty fair assessment. He never said bust. He was just trying to say that we should never expect him to be elite with accuracy, but that could still end up being a good QB if he continues to work at and hone the skills he does have. Exactly! Compared him to Steve McNair. I love the comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 To be fair, Jim Kelly was of a different era.....so lets look at last seasons QB performances. Below is the list of QBs that had a 64.5 or lower completion percentage in 2013. Nick Foles Russell Wilson Tony Romo Big Ben Colin Kap.. Sam Bradford Jay Cutler Alex Smith Andy Dalton Cam Newton Tom Brady Andrew Luck Mat Stafford Carson Palmer Mike Glennon RG3 Fitz Ryan Tannehill Matt Cassell Kellen Clemmens Chris Ponder EJ Jason Campbell Chad Henne Joe Flacco Matt Schaub Brandon Wheedon Eli Manning Terrelle Prior Geno Smith Hmmm....bit of a moronic statement really. By the OP. Coach Sal didn't call him a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I can't Sal myself but I think his point was that he was completing around 60% of his passes of which 85-90% are below 10 yards and dump offs. If you're gonna compare him to Brady you have to go beyond percentages Chad Pennington says hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) The question is....What will Doug Marrone do about this ???? Nothing ? To me this means the coach is a bust.... Edited August 19, 2014 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteus Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 A lot of you are in fantasy land about how good you think EJ is going to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 All the tools are there, now it's up to Hackett to coach and come up with plays that suit them. Sadly, this is where we probably fail. EJ will still be the fall guy until he signs with another team and does better than he does in a bills uniform. I do question hackett more and more as the back up qb's were "serviceable" last year but have shown a great deal of regression this year. Not sure I'd that's on him or the new qb coach but they have fallen off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 [This is an automated response] As a courtesy to the other board members, please use more descriptive subject lines. The topic starter can edit the subject line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think it was 99.9% the way some people like to think of him It's a different game compared to Kelly's era. EJ is AFRAID, and plays like he doesn't want to throw a pick regardless of the cost-Just like Trent Edwards. Exactly! Compared him to Steve McNair. I love the comparison McNair had ******ATTITUDE****** EJ is a wuss. Tebow sucks WAY worse than EJ, and that ain't sayin' much. EJ will not be a bust. he will be mediocre (Top 20-25) That is the Karma you generate when you pick a third round project in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 This board gets worse and worse everyday. If you dont like what the thread is about then dont !@#$in read it and reply to it. 60% of the replys to any thread on this board are either bitching about someone starting a new thread, "IN", or bashing the OP for his opinion or take on the situation he is writing about. Why can the mods fix this? Or atleast adress it. You're complaining on a thread about people complaining on a thread. Somebody should start a thread about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 By the OP. Coach Sal didn't call him a bust. I wasn't making comment on the bust aspect, purely the "low 60% completion" aspect. To highlight that as some sort of benchmark when so many successful QBs in the league do not reach it......it makes one wonder what the point was suppose to be. In essence it was a pointless statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I wasn't making comment on the bust aspect, purely the "low 60% completion" aspect. To highlight that as some sort of benchmark when so many successful QBs in the league do not reach it......it makes one wonder what the point was suppose to be. In essence it was a pointless statement. Yeah I think if he said "under 50%" that would be 1.) a Damning Statement and 2.) a better benchmark of a "bust". In this case low 60% is not a horrible place to be and I don't think in any way to Coach Sal mean it EJ is a bust because of that, simply that will be his ceiling of completion percentage in Coch Sal's opinion, for whatever that is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Yeah I think if he said "under 50%" that would be 1.) a Damning Statement and 2.) a better benchmark of a "bust". In this case low 60% is not a horrible place to be and I don't think in any way to Coach Sal mean it EJ is a bust because of that, simply that will be his ceiling of completion percentage in Coch Sal's opinion, for whatever that is worth. It does make it difficult not seeing the whole dialog. It could potentially be a totally reasonable thing to say. For instance, if he was listing/grading each area of EJ's play, to conclude that he would never have a completion percentage above low 60s might just be a matter of fact(or opinion as the case may be).....and not necessarily an intended insult, simply pointing out he isn't going to have Peyton type accuracy. I'm thinking I should retract my initial reaction to the comment(until I see the complete dialog). Edited August 20, 2014 by Dibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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