26CornerBlitz Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Im a JF fan, but I agree that was the right thing to do. Let him learn some more, odds are Hoyer won't last past game 5 or 6 anyway IMO, neither Hoyer nor Manziel is the long term answer to the many years of Cleveland Browns QB misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 breaking news......browns name hoyer starting qb over johnny football. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/20/browns-say-brian-hoyer-will-start-johnny-manziel-will-sit/ shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Screw you guys, I'm going home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 IMO, neither Hoyer nor Manziel is the long term answer to the many years of Cleveland Browns QB misery. Browns fans that I know seem to think Connor Shaw ("Shawsome") is the answer over JF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 now johnny football has more time to do stupid things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Browns fans that I know seem to think Connor Shaw ("Shawsome") is the answer over JF. Shaw might shank, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Browns fans that I know seem to think Connor Shaw ("Shawsome") is the answer over JF. UDFA is thought of to be better than the 1st round pick? No fan base is that stupid, are they? And at least, Shaw was good in college. And say what you want, but I think beating Kevin Kolb out to be a starter is a lot more impressive than losing a starting job to Brian Hoyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Shaw might shank, but who knows. If so, I'm sure he'll have a chance to redeem himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I wonder if the all the Brohios still think Manziel partying every weekend and posting all the drunk selfies was no big deal. According to every media person in Cleveland with insight on the situation, the Browns disagree. But they know who they drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Where did you get those odds? Their first 3 games are very tough, then I believe they have their off week. If they are 0-3 Johnny Finger will be starting game 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 UDFA is thought of to be better than the 1st round pick? No fan base is that stupid, are they? And at least, Shaw was good in college. And say what you want, but I think beating Kevin Kolb out to be a starter is a lot more impressive than losing a starting job to Brian Hoyer. Who beat out Kevin Kolb? Mike Vick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Who beat out Kevin Kolb? Mike Vick? a rubber mat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 If so, I'm sure he'll have a chance to redeem himself. Redemption is always sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 a rubber mat Oh, that's right. I don't understand why he's not getting reps when our QB situation is in flux. Throw R. Mat out there with the third team, let's see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Their first 3 games are very tough, then I believe they have their off week. If they are 0-3 Johnny Finger will be starting game 4. Steelers, Saints, Ravens in the first 3 weeks. Not many teams in the league would do better than 1-2; most would go 0-3. Not sure if Hoyer will be held responsible. If anything, their defense will give up too many points in the first two weeks. If they can steal one from Baltimore (at home against the original Browns - emotionally charged game), I think Hoyer stays. Part of me hopes the do rush Manziel into starting. Just means I don't have to wait as long to see him get smacked down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Steelers, Saints, Ravens in the first 3 weeks. Not many teams in the league would do better than 1-2; most would go 0-3. Not sure if Hoyer will be held responsible. If anything, their defense will give up too many points in the first two weeks. If they can steal one from Baltimore (at home against the original Browns - emotionally charged game), I think Hoyer stays. Part of me hopes the do rush Manziel into starting. Just means I don't have to wait as long to see him get smacked down. I really think Hoyer stinks. He's a 6 year vet and it took him almost 3 weeks of preseason to officially beat out a rookie QB with constant off the field "issues." Hoyer is definitely not the answer, and any excuse to yank him will be exercised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I really think Hoyer stinks. He's a 6 year vet and it took him almost 3 weeks of preseason to officially beat out a rookie QB with constant off the field "issues." Hoyer is definitely not the answer, and any excuse to yank him will be exercised. i agree. He will not be the starter by the time we play them unless manziel is hurt. And it will probably happen before that. He won it by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Steelers, Saints, Ravens in the first 3 weeks. Not many teams in the league would do better than 1-2; most would go 0-3. Not sure if Hoyer will be held responsible. If anything, their defense will give up too many points in the first two weeks. If they can steal one from Baltimore (at home against the original Browns - emotionally charged game), I think Hoyer stays. Part of me hopes the do rush Manziel into starting. Just means I don't have to wait as long to see him get smacked down. Hoyer will be held responsible, just like EJ would. More importantly (I believe) the owner wants J Finger as the starter sooner rather than later. This gives Pettine "his way" while still putting Finger on the field early in his rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) i agree. He will not be the starter by the time we play them unless manziel is hurt. And it will probably happen before that. He won it by default. Hoyer's strength was mobility. With the knee injury he's lost that too. If not after the bye, then maybe a couple more games, that's why I'm saying around week 5 or 6 I most likely see him gone. That whole browns team has failed to impress, so the losing record won't all be on hoyer, but still that will add to pressure to make a change. In the long run, this will actually be good for JF, both to give him time to learn, and not be be thrown to the wolves early in the season when the browns look sure to get off to bad start Edited August 20, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 It's possible, if not likely, that this will be the first year since 2007 that no rookie QBs will start week 1. And this was supposed to be the best QB class in how long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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