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14 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

^^^^^^ creepy stalk Ish behavior.

 

Ugh.

 

 

 

No, Chris.

 

There's no stalking happening here.

 

You've mentioned PACS over 253 times, so it's difficult not to notice your fixation.

 

What's truly unsettling, though, is you running into brick walls here every day here, without recognizing your own hypocrisy.

 

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Congrats to them on being brainwashed into hating their own race.

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Who is brainwashing who?

 

So what are you telling us with this graph? Ban gun sales to blacks and Hispanics? 


Your graph also tells us that Canadians are getting shot more than US whites?  
 

Right. 
 

Should we build a wall between the US and Canada, too?

 

You gotta move US whites all the way over to the left before Finland.

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41 minutes ago, BillStime said:


Who is brainwashing who?

 

So what are you telling us with this graph? Ban gun sales to blacks and Hispanics? 


Your graph also tells us that Canadians are getting shot more than US whites?  
 

Right. 
 

Should we build a wall between the US and Canada, too?

 

You gotta move US whites all the way over to the left before Finland.

That is a lot of questions for a guy who never answers any. 

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:


Who is brainwashing who?

 

So what are you telling us with this graph? Ban gun sales to blacks and Hispanics? 


Your graph also tells us that Canadians are getting shot more than US whites?  
 

Right. 
 

Should we build a wall between the US and Canada, too?

 

You gotta move US whites all the way over to the left before Finland.

Hang on let me do what you do and find a ***** Facebook meme from 5 years ago to post as my response.

1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said:

That is a lot of questions for a guy who never answers any. 

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22 minutes ago, BillStime said:


Oh did I respond to your post with a ***** Facebook meme?

 

Nope.

 

 

 

 

No you asked asinine questions  that are vaguely related to the comment because now you want to have a real conversation after mainly being a troll for so long.

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7 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

No you asked asinine questions  that are vaguely related to the comment because now you want to have a real conversation after mainly being a troll for so long.

They troll all day and then when someone gives them the same treatment they suddenly pretend like they’re not a troll. It’s so boring and predictable.

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Milwaukee Paper Discovers 'Gun Death' Lie

By Tom Knighton 

 

The term “gun death” is popular among gun control advocates and their politicians who push that same agenda. It’s a simple enough term, too. It’s simply the total number of people killed with a firearm, regardless of who pulled the trigger or why.

 

It might even be a useful statistic in some cases.

 

However, when talking about guns and gun control, it’s misdirection at best and a case of lying with facts at its worst.

 

It’s an effort to lump all such fatalities together to make the issue seem bigger than it is. And it seems folks at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel got an eye-opener on the topic recently.

 

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Gun deaths are rising in Wisconsin, but the people affected by it might surprise you. The narrative around gun violence is often limited to urban homicides, but the vast majority of deaths by guns are suicides. In fact, a new report from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel finds that suicides make up more than two-thirds of all deaths by guns in Wisconsin.

 

“Of 100 gun deaths that [occur] in Wisconsin, roughly 25 of those are homicides. And then there’s another one to 2% that are accidents or police involved shootings,”

 

 

[Investigative reporter John] Diedrich explains. “The idea that 71 out of 100 gun deaths in Wisconsin are suicides was an eye-opener to me and to our readers.”

 

Diedrich acknowledges that suicides are, in fact, a mental health issue, but he’s paraphrased as saying that when those issues arise, gun owners have a very deadly means to take their own life.

 

I don’t dispute that fact.

 

However, starting with that last point, if they already have the means to take their own life, what good would new gun control laws do?

 

https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2023/11/16/gun-death-lie-n77338

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Finally! Academic Sets Record Straight On Mass Shootings

By Tom Knighton 

 

Not a week goes by when I don’t encounter some article making claims about how mass shootings are happening at a rate that is nearly beyond comprehension.

 

According to places like the Gun Violence Archive, they’re happening at a rate of nearly two per day, and that’s more than enough to rattle your average voter.

 

What’s more, most people don’t really understand what the numbers mean. Even if they see the definition GVA uses, they don’t quite get what all is included in that total.

 

Yet a piece by a criminal justice professor–an academic–takes issue with this whole idea of lumping everything in together.

 

Current media portrayal of and public debate about gun violence are big on shock values but short on solutions. Broad definitions of mass shootings with no differentiation of types of shootings, victims, and circumstances, lumping gang violence, home invasions, armed robberies, familicides, and personal vengeance together with random public mass killings are not conducive to effective interventions.

 

Only incidents involving four or more shot and killed randomly during a singular event in a public place should be considered mass shootings to differentiate them from more common types of gun violence and allow the police and society to develop relevant and effective strategies tailored to specific types of incidents.

 

With this definition, there are usually a handful of mass shootings involving fewer than 80 murdered victims out of more than 15,000 total gun violence deaths in a given year.

 

There were 31 mass shootings from 2017 through 2021, about six per year (Marshall Project) and four in 2022 in Buffalo, New York; Uvalde, Texas; Tulsa, Oklahoma; and Highland Park, Illinois.

 

There were 74 mass shooting deaths among about 15,000 gun homicides in 2019 (CDC.gov and Wilson, 2021). From 1966 -2020, there were 420 mass shootings, 1449 deaths, which account for 27 deaths per year (Rockefeller Institute of Government).

 

 

 

 

The author, Allan Jiao offers up some specific recommendations for the various kinds of “gun violence” and unlike what we hear from many gun control advocates, they’re actually different recommendations.

 

That’s because mass shootings and more pedestrian forms of homicides aren’t remotely the same. They have different causes and motivations, which makes them very different.

 

For example, take a drive-by shooting that injures or even kills four or more people and compare it to a more traditional mass shooting with the same death toll.

Both are awful events–no one can dispute that, in my opinion–but one is the result of a series of actions that involve, at least in part, criminal organizations such as gangs. The other is what we’d term “random” because no one in particular is targeted, all injured or killed are just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

The drive-by could have been prevented through different anti-gang efforts, both by law enforcement or private organizations.

 

Mass shootings are different.

 

When you also lump in shootings where no one was killed, though, it just muddies the water.

 

Take the things we see suggested after a shooting like Lewiston, for example. Things like red flag laws and assault weapon bans look tempting to many after what Jiao terms as true mass shootings, but are they useful to inhibit gang activity? After all, most gang members aren’t obtaining their guns lawfully in the first place, now are they?

 

https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2023/11/20/record-mass-shootings-n77490

 

https://thefulcrum.us/reducing-gun-violence-requires-differentiation-of-mass-shootings

 

 

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The gunman who opened fire at Ohio Walmart this week, injuring four people, may have been at least partly inspired by violent, racist ideology, the FBI said Wednesday.

Benjamin Charles Jones, 20, killed himself after he opened fire with a carbine at the Walmart in Beavercreek about 8:30 p.m. Monday, authorities have said.

He wounded four people — a white man, a white woman and two Black women — the FBI said. All survived. Jones was white, the FBI said.

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-walmart-shooter-may-inspired-racist-ideology-fbi-says-rcna126449?cid=eml_mrd_20231123

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