What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[Tommy Callahan]

2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

There are far more liberal governments in peer nations but they don’t have these issues. 
 

Even though you like to point to Chicago, 60% of the guns used in crimes here came from out of state. 
 

You can keep looking for something else to blame that fits your narrative, but when you look at the global data, the real reason is obvious and you’re simply wrong. 

nice words. but the simple fact is DA's in DEM strongholds are releasing people for gun possession and other violent charges.  

Edited March 27, 2023 by Chris farley

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

It was not passed. Anything to help stop school shootings right?

 

Oh, but it was...  

 

 

 

 

...you try so hard.

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

nice words. but the simple fact is DA's in DEM strongholds are releasing people for possession.

And guess what? That’s not the cause of our gun violence epidemic. It’s just a red herring to get ignorant people to ignore the actual root cause. 
 

All the Bernie bros wish America was more lefty like Scandinavian countries. If you’re theory that liberal policies cause gun violence was correct, then the Scandinavian countries would have much higher rates of gun violence than we do. 
 

But they don’t, because you are obviously and clearly wrong. 

[Boatdrinks]

11 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

And guess what? That’s not the cause of our gun violence epidemic. It’s just a red herring to get ignorant people to ignore the actual root cause. 
 

All the Bernie bros wish America was more lefty like Scandinavian countries. If you’re theory that liberal policies cause gun violence was correct, then the Scandinavian countries would have much higher rates of gun violence than we do. 
 

But they don’t, because you are obviously and clearly wrong. 

The gun is not the cause of any violence epidemic. Most of us can handle the fact that we have the right to possess firearms and that they are available. Violent psychopaths and lawless criminals cannot. Again, violence is a “ people” problem not a firearm problem. Sadly, the liberal subculture has created this lawless violent mentality. Anyone who passed through the public education system was exposed to it in recent decades. Some can handle personal responsibility and some cannot. 
As for Scandinavian countries , their culture is likely quite different than the USA. Do they stress racial wars, LGBTQ, etc in school and not actual performance? I doubt it. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Boatdrinks

[Roundybout]

Fine, don’t take the guns away. Bare minimum should be red flag laws where the SECOND someone reports you for obvious mental issues, all your guns go bye-bye for good. 

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

The gun is not the cause of any violence epidemic. Most of us can handle the fact that we have the right to possess firearms and that they are available. Violent psychopaths and lawless criminals cannot. Again, violence is a “ people” problem not a firearm problem. Sadly, the liberal subculture has created this lawless violent mentality. Anyone who passed through the public education system was exposed to it in recent decades. Some can handle personal responsibility and some cannot. 

Please explain how the public education system created this?

[Big Blitz]

Another CIA op.  All the talking points instantly ready to roll.   
 

You’re literally under attack by your government.  
 

We find out what happened in Vegas yet?

 

 

 

Nearly all the conspiracies are true.  They told you they killed JFK over the weekend by the way. 
 

No one cares.  
 

Continue arguing about taking rights away.  

^^

 

And yes I do know Parkland happened.  
 

Who gets to these lunatics from Texas to Vegas to this…..everything is on the table

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Fine, don’t take the guns away. Bare minimum should be red flag laws where the SECOND someone reports you for obvious mental issues, all your guns go bye-bye for good. 

Please explain how the public education system created this?

It didn’t create it on its own. Bad parenting is also a huge factor. Many factors at work here, but it’s largely a cultural problem. Guns have been available for a long time. A normal person isn’t inclined to commit murder just because they can. 

[Roundybout]

10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Another CIA op.  All the talking points instantly ready to roll.   
 

You’re literally under attack by your government.  
 

We find out what happened in Vegas yet?

 

 

 

Nearly all the conspiracies are true.  They told you they killed JFK over the weekend by the way. 
 

No one cares.  
 

Continue arguing about taking rights away.  

^^

 

And yes I do know Parkland happened.  
 

Who gets to these lunatics from Texas to Vegas to this…..everything is on the table

You guys will literally believe insane conspiracy theories rather than the simple solution that another psychopath loser had easy access to mass killing weapons 

 

Go curl into a ball and pretend you’re gonna fight the Ruskies or the British and you’re some great American hero. 

6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

It didn’t create it on its own. Bad parenting is also a huge factor. Many factors at work here, but it’s largely a cultural problem. Guns have been available for a long time. A normal person isn’t inclined to commit murder just because they can. 

Then make it harder for said abnormal people to get said implements of murder 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Roundybout

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

You guys will literally believe insane conspiracy theories rather than the simple solution that another psychopath loser had easy access to mass killing weapons 

 

How did the Texas POS get his?  
 

His savings account?  

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

because they can

Maybe red states just make it so easy for them to so, too

Only country on this planet that this happens and it is everyone else’s fault:

 

13 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Do they stress racial wars, LGBTQ, etc in school and not actual performance

 

Never the gun nuts making gun laws permitting the sales of these firearms.
 

Keep spinning 

 

🎯

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

8 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

You guys will literally believe insane conspiracy theories rather than the simple solution that another psychopath loser had easy access to mass killing weapons 

 

Go curl into a ball and pretend you’re gonna fight the Ruskies or the British and you’re some great American hero. 

Then make it harder for said abnormal people to get said implements of murder 

Constitutional right. Perhaps certain things can be done , but not that much. How much harder should it be for normal people ? Murder is illegal, yet happens every day. Criminals don’t follow laws, so it’s a fools errand in many ways. There’s no - for lack of a better term - “ magic bullet” here. 

[Irv]

Demented Biden cracking jokes and politicizing the whole thing.  We need a real leader.  Not some *****-for-brains.   What a mess.  

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, Irv said:

Demented Biden cracking jokes and politicizing the whole thing.  We need a real leader.  Not some *****-for-brains.   What a mess.  

The moron was talking about ice cream or something at the start. Can’t believe this hare brained chump is the Prez. 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

The moron was talking about ice cream or something at the start. Can’t believe this hare brained chump is the Prez. 

Thoughts and prayers

[Big Blitz]

8 minutes ago, Irv said:

Demented Biden cracking jokes and politicizing the whole thing.  We need a real leader.  Not some *****-for-brains.   What a mess.  

 

It’s all compromised.  
 

I know that’s tough for a lot that think there is some semblance of an American government left.  
 

There isn’t.  It always used to be “compromised” but at least by American corporations with American interests.  
 

Now it’s run by the CCP and hostile foreign actors that work right here.

 

 

They continue to operate like they have a press straight out of North Korea.  The Democrats pretty much do.  

[ChiGoose]

45 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

The gun is not the cause of any violence epidemic. 

No, it obviously is. The cause of our gun violence epidemic is the easy access to guns. 
 

Compare all the other variables you want to our peer nations and the answer is obvious. 
 

It’s fine to have differences of opinions on what to actually do about this, but saying that the cause of the disproportionate rate of gun deaths in this country is anything other than the guns is just wrong and not supported by the facts. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by ChiGoose

[aristocrat]

Seems the shooter was a trans gender female. This is going to get interesting 

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

No, it obviously is. The cause of our gun violence epidemic is the easy access to guns. 
 

Compare all the other variables you want to our peer nations and the answer is obvious. 
 

It’s fine to have differences of opinions on what to actually do about this, but saying that the cause of the disproportionate rate of gun deaths in this country is anything other than the guns is just wrong and not supported by the facts. 

Couldn’t disagree more. You have access to guns. Perhaps you even own one. Are you shooting people ? I’m not either. A good person can have a gun in front of them yet never think about using it. You first have to admit that there are bad people. If you cannot do this, the inanimate object will always be the villain - which is preposterous. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

 

Something like 95 percent of mass shootings are committed by gang activity which is largely made up of minorities who also largely vote democratic. 

 

100% accruate

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

Seems the shooter was a trans gender female. This is going to get interesting 

Oh damn. I was thinking a jilted lover or a molested individual. Could be , but yes there’s much more to be discovered here.