Clippers of Nfl Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) How are they worth anything? That's an honest question. What, at all, do they bring to the game experience? And if you want to talk about the events they go to, allot of people that. It's called volunteering. How are they worth anything??? Omg. How could this question even be asked? One of the reasons I love basketball is because of the honeys. I can kind of see your point. They are not needed. They dont affect the score. I get that. However, Without cheerleaders sports would suck!!! And no you dont have to undress them with your eyes. It's just cool that they are there. Pay them a fair wage or give them a lot of money. So what! Today is all about the nba. Go clippers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited April 24, 2014 by Clippers of Nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Mike Rodak @mikerodak 9m Buffalo Jills cheerleaders suspend activities two days after lawsuit: http://es.pn/1nJgTtt Seems like 5 ex-Jills cost the rest of the girls. I mean the Jills were not the Raiderettes but damn that cold as ice . I wonder if the Cowboys would do this to the Cowgirls. Don't think so. As a full blooded male I shall miss the girls. And I really feel for the young ladies who missed having a chance to cheer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Not a prayer that they are ruled independent contractors. Clearly there appears to be direction and control exercised by the, " alleged employers", who may or may not include the Bills. We may be seeing the beginning of the end of cheerleading as we know it in professional sports. If so the sport will survive but some of the color and fun will be gone from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 How are they worth anything??? Omg. How could this question even be asked? One of the reasons I love basketball is because of the honeys. I can kind of see your point. They are not needed. They dont affect the score. I get that. However, Without cheerleaders sports would suck!!! And no you dont have to undress them with your eyes. It's just cool that they are there. Pay them a fair wage or give them a lot of money. So what! Today is all about the nba. Go clippers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously? Are you not going to enjoy Bills games this year because Jills won't be there helping you cheer them on? What will you do...how will you know when to cheer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Screw em. The Donald will not put up with this. he will put scab ex- Miss America contestants as replacements. And, I doubt there will be a single complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 it's official. No cherrleaders for the 2014 season http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2014/04/24/buffalo-bills-drop-cheerleaders-season/8135185/ I dont get it though, if its really as bad as the Jills who are suing say, why didnt they just quit? No one was forcing them to do it CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I don't see the cheerleaders as necessary. But if they are a part of the team's marketing, they should be compensated properly, and treated fairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaSnow Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Really, it's about time that they went away. I mean no disrespect here. I'm sure they all work very hard and take a lot of pride in what they do. I also enjoy cheerleaders for personal aesthetic reasons. That being said, they really do send all sorts of regressive messages about women (to the men in the stands and the little girls who aspire to be them), and it would probably be for the better if they faded into the past. I know that's not a popular stance, but having recently moved into fatherhood, my perspective has changed a bit on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I don't see the cheerleaders as necessary. But if they are a part of the team's marketing, they should be compensated properly, and treated fairly. I agree. If you have cheerleaders by all means pay them a living wage. But if the Jills or any NFL cheer squad went away I wouldn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Not a prayer that they are ruled independent contractors. Clearly there appears to be direction and control exercised by the, " alleged employers", who may or may not include the Bills. We may be seeing the beginning of the end of cheerleading as we know it in professional sports. If so the sport will survive but some of the color and fun will be gone from it. I had a short discussion about this general issue with a friend of mine who specializes in labor law. Apparently the tactic of trying to "bully" people into accepting independent contractor status is not uncommon in the business world. He gave me several anecdotal examples; here's one: A law firm hires an attorney under the condition he sign a form stating he's working for them as an independent contractor. He works for them for a year or so at a desk in their offices, using their stationary and clerical staff. When they laid him off, he filed for unemployment and they never made any effort to dispute the claim. I don't understand the "end of cheerleaders in pro sports" angle. When you add up all the money to pay all the Jills (not just these 5) what's being demanded, it adds up to something like $15-20K a year. That's about 0.5% of the Bills profit margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Disagree with all of the get rid of cheerleader comments. Redskins cheerleaders > Redskins. They kept me entertained, I was doing "the jiggle test" in my mind all night. That's Redskin cheerleaders. They're hardly cream of the crop as well, but they're head and shoulders above the Jills. Let's face it, the Jills among other teams' cheerleaders are about as competitive as the team has been this century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Just get rid of all cheerleaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Our cheerleaders are busted. They should pay the Bills for letting them on the field. The Cowboys cheerleaders they are not If that ain't the truth. Just get rid of all cheerleaders You have my vote. But then that reduces part of the NFL's marketing campaign and therefore their money, ... can't have that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Wow, lotta progressive thinking in this thread. I guess it's always 1958 somewhere. lol ,but you are correct. and so are the giants. the entire concept of pro, college, high school and little league cheerleading is demeaning. maybe those in support of it would like beauty pagents at halftime but then be outraged by a halftime wardrobe malfunction. but yes, some of the blame surely falls on those that signed up to do it. complaining about a required "jiggle test" and then agreeing to perform it and take the job is more than a bit hypocritical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 To me the cheerleaders add nothing to a pro game. The entire point of it, going back, was primarily that, to lead cheers. Well the cheerleaders have all been replaced, and then some, with all of the electronic gadgetry at stadiums including the huge scoreboards that can say whatever they want along with the ribbon scoreboards and those immense sound systems. The cheerleaders anymore are nothing but a distraction for commercials and the league knows it. But I'm not even sure that they need that anymore with cell phones and PDAs and the like. I would argue differently for college football b/c it's more student oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Rick Reilly @ReillyRick 20m From the Buffalo Jills cheerleader rules: "Say 'excuse me' when you burp, even if you're alone.'" http://www.scribd.com/doc/220066268/Jills-Glamour-Etiquette-Hygiene-Rules … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Rick Reilly @ReillyRick 20m From the Buffalo Jills cheerleader rules: "Say 'excuse me' when you burp, even if you're alone.'" http://www.scribd.co...-Rules … Edited April 25, 2014 by TaskersGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Rick Reilly @ReillyRick 20m From the Buffalo Jills cheerleader rules: "Say 'excuse me' when you burp, even if you're alone.'" http://www.scribd.co...-Rules … Interesting....the Jills "Glamour Team" included a "Brow Specialist" and a "Sugarist." So what's a "Sugarist" do? LOL Edited April 25, 2014 by John in Jax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Russ is cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I had a short discussion about this general issue with a friend of mine who specializes in labor law. Apparently the tactic of trying to "bully" people into accepting independent contractor status is not uncommon in the business world. He gave me several anecdotal examples; here's one: A law firm hires an attorney under the condition he sign a form stating he's working for them as an independent contractor. He works for them for a year or so at a desk in their offices, using their stationary and clerical staff. When they laid him off, he filed for unemployment and they never made any effort to dispute the claim. I don't understand the "end of cheerleaders in pro sports" angle. When you add up all the money to pay all the Jills (not just these 5) what's being demanded, it adds up to something like $15-20K a year. That's about 0.5% of the Bills profit margin. Your friend is right but you may want to recalculate those numbers. The value to the organization includes the many hours of personal appearances that they do. Plus training and practice time they currently do not get paid for it. When back pay is calculated the suit will have them estimate back pay which is due for about 6 years not just for the five but for all the cheerleaders who ever where allowed to "work" during that period. We are talking about a serious liability both past and future. My guess is that there will be no future for cheerleaders in Buffalo and maybe none in the whole league. If the Feds get involved this will be a league wide issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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