Greg F Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Sanders' team just accused Hillary of violating campaign finance rules The old fool doesn't realize rules are for the little people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 The deadline for changing parties in NYS was 9 Oct 2015 in order to vote 19 Apr 2016 primary As a Independent , I wait to find out who is running , there positions and listen to debates before deciding who to vote for. That is not possible way back on 9 Oct. This is democracy ? I want to vote for the statesmen who could do what is right for all Americans and get something done with a divided , partisan Congress, not just executive orders. I would have voted for Kasich just on principal if I could have switched parties 10 March like the newspaper warned that 25 March was the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 If you wish to be Independent............then that is what you should be. Democrats should decide who is their parties candidate, and Republicans should decide who is their parties candidate. Not people who switch parties just to vote. And no.............this is not a democracy.......................but a Republic. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Some of us voters are not partisan, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Some of us voters are not partisan, sorry. That's fine, but then you should remain independent. As B-Man said, registered party members should decide who their party's nominee is. Bernie was never a Democrat until this election just so he could make use of the Democrat party resources. Then he complains about such rules as superdelegates, which were in place before he joined. He knows the end is near, so he's getting desperate and saying whatever he can to remain viable in the party. If he didn't like the party rules, he should have ran as an independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 That's fine, but then you should remain independent. As B-Man said, registered party members should decide who their party's nominee is. Bernie was never a Democrat until this election just so he could make use of the Democrat party resources. Then he complains about such rules as superdelegates, which were in place before he joined. He knows the end is near, so he's getting desperate and saying whatever he can to remain viable in the party. If he didn't like the party rules, he should have ran as an independent. Says the guy who carries a picture of Shrillary on his phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Popular vote 2000 election, yes I remain a Independent 50,996,582 Gore 50,456,062 Bush those are the rules , so pay up for the Iraq disaster and 2008 economic collapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 those are the rules , so pay up for the Iraq disaster and 2008 economic collapse Who is responsible for the 2008 economic collapse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Popular vote 2000 election, yes I remain a Independent 50,996,582 Gore 50,456,062 Bush those are the rules , so pay up for the Iraq disaster and 2008 economic collapse 2000 Electoral College Bush - 271 Gore - 266 and again, we are a Republic, not a (mob rule) democracy. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Popular vote 2000 election, yes I remain a Independent 50,996,582 Gore 50,456,062 Bush those are the rules , so pay up for the Iraq disaster and 2008 economic collapse I'm so thankful that we aren't a pure democracy for precisely that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Popular vote 2000 election, yes I remain a Independent 50,996,582 Gore 50,456,062 Bush those are the rules , so pay up for the Iraq disaster and 2008 economic collapse Say again...what are the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Popular vote 2000 election, yes I remain a Independent 50,996,582 Gore 50,456,062 Bush So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 The National debt was less then $1T when Carter left office , now over $19T. I blame Democrats and Republicans that's why I am a Independent FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I'm still trying to figure out whose fault the 2008 economic collapse should be attributed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 She's crooked, always has been, always will be. Disgraced Clinton Donor got $13 Million in State Department Grants Hillary Clinton’s Department of State awarded at least $13 million in grants, contracts and loans to her longtime friend and Clinton Foundation donor Muhammad Yunus, despite his being ousted in 2011 as managing director of the Bangladesh-based Grameen Bank amid charges of corruption, according to an investigation by The Daily Caller News Foundation. The tax funds were given to Yunus through 18 separate U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) award transactions listed by the federal contracting site USAspending.gov. They highlight how Clinton mixed official government business with Clinton Foundation donors. Yunus gave between $100,000 to $300,000 to the foundation, according to the Clinton Foundation website. Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/17/exclusive-disgraced-clinton-donor-got-13m-in-state-dept-grants-under-hillary/#ixzz46Htg3Z8L ************ The fix is in: Massive Clinton Voter Fraud (allegedly) in NY As New York prepares for its most meaningful presidential primary in decades, some of the candidates’ most passionate supporters are finding out they will be spending Election Day on the sidelines. According to a recent emergency lawsuit filed in a Long Island federal court, there have been “reports of thousands of NY voters being erroneously purged from the rolls.” Many of these purged voters seem to be Bernie Sanders supporters, leading to fresh questions about whether Hillary Clinton’s campaign is trying to steal the New York primary. Under state laws, only registered Democrats can vote in today’s Democratic primary. That has led thousands of Sanders supporters in recent months to register as Democrats so they could vote. Now, many of those voters are learning that their registrations have been misfiled or have inexplicably gone missing. This is eerily similar to what happened in at least one other state where Clinton ended up eking out a victory. https://thehornnews.com/15140-2/ (more here: http://www.wnyc.org/story/de-blasio-demands-explanation-boe-drops-126000-brooklyn-democrats/ and here: http://nypost.com/2016/04/19/54000-brooklyn-voters-vanish-ahead-of-primary-day/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Dems fear election in danger zone... NEW YORK — Anxiety is rising among Democrats ahead of Tuesday’s primary in New York, with some fearing the battle between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders has reached a danger zone. Sanders has leveled some of his most biting criticism at Clinton in recent days, stirring passions in the race that insiders say could leave the party divided heading into November’s elections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Dems fear election in danger zone... NEW YORK — Anxiety is rising among Democrats ahead of Tuesday’s primary in New York, with some fearing the battle between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders has reached a danger zone. Sanders has leveled some of his most biting criticism at Clinton in recent days, stirring passions in the race that insiders say could leave the party divided heading into November’s elections I love the Democrats worried about a "divided party." As a whole, Democrats are the most lock-step groupthink Stepford voters in the damned country. A bunch of "independent thinkers" who share the same bumper sticker slogans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Popular vote 2000 election, yes I remain a Independent 50,996,582 Gore 50,456,062 Bush those are the rules , so pay up for the Iraq disaster and 2008 economic collapse This again? Seriously? Our government was not designed to be a democracy. It was established as a representative republic, with the intention being to protect against popular uprisings like in France. With this in mind, the general population was not even allowed to vote. To vote you had to be white, land owning, and male; the premise being that these individuals would be educated, and see the benefits of the system as designed. And even with this in mind, the only federal office those white, land owning males could directly vote for was their congressional representative in the House. Senators were elected/appointed by the political elites of the several states within their own state governments. Presidents are still elected by electors who have no legal obligation to vote for the candidates the citizens of their states put forward, taking it a step further the states aren't obligated to hold caucuses or primaries prior to nominating their party candidates because political parties are not government entities, they are private organizations subject only to their own rules, which they can amend as they see fit. So, with all of that in mind, quit parroting your absurd nonsense about popular votes in the 2000 Presidential election. They don't matter, nor were they designed to matter. In fact, the elected President has lost the popular vote four times in our nations history, spanning back all the way to John Quincy Adams. Edited April 19, 2016 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Why go thru the trouble of the public voting and massive expense then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Why go thru the trouble of the public voting and massive expense then? Political theater for the benefit of the two major parties, and the power elites within them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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