MrLocke Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Makes a lot of sense. Whaley knows the league and seems to know what he wants and is not afraid to make a move. Ah yes, the draft value chart that only fans use...So he had a bad game so he sucks? You don't find it at all troubling a 6'5' 330 guy got pwned by a guy 6'1' 285? Also the general rule when you trade picks a year away is 1 round higher than what you gave away. for example a 2014 2nd round pick = 2015 1st round pick. I don't buy into this he's good because he moves around stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Polian just about always stand pat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 You don't find it at all troubling a 6'5' 330 guy got pwned by a guy 6'1' 285? Also the general rule when you trade picks a year away is 1 round higher than what you gave away. for example a 2014 2nd round pick = 2015 1st round pick. I don't buy into this he's good because he moves around stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Polian just about always stand pat? Donald was drafted at #13, so no, I'm not too troubled that a guy we're drafting in the FIFTH round had difficulty handling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Fifth rounders cannot be busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 The guy was lineman of the year twice in the Big 12. He's a monster. He will lose some weight, get stronger, and pancake people all over the place. Solid. Solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) You don't find it at all troubling a 6'5' 330 guy got pwned by a guy 6'1' 285? Also the general rule when you trade picks a year away is 1 round higher than what you gave away. for example a 2014 2nd round pick = 2015 1st round pick. I don't buy into this he's good because he moves around stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Polian just about always stand pat? One game doesn't bother me and he's a 5th round G. What are you expecting? Who's general rule? Yours? Edited May 10, 2014 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Donald was drafted at #13, so no, I'm not too troubled that a guy we're drafting in the FIFTH round had difficulty handling him. Agreed. Sounds like Donald is a guy you double team if it were a real game. Not shocking that a super quick top-10 talent beat a really big OG prospect. If a guy could be really big/strong and really great against quick guys, then he would be drafted in the 1st round, not 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) It was the Senior Bowl, who knows where his head was at....5th round stel...I hope! Go Bills! Edited May 10, 2014 by Bills Fan of Maryland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) One game doesn't bother me and he's a 5th round G. What are you expecting? Who's general rule? Yours? It wasn't even "one game" so much as something that happened during the practice week. Basically, he saw a gif that's going around of Donald plowing through Richardson in a drill. Zach Martin struggled against Donald during the practice week, too. Edited May 10, 2014 by Punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 One game doesn't bother me and he's a 5th round G. What are you expecting? Who's general rule? Yours? How about former GMs rule. That's what Casserly and Ted Sundquist say when I've seen them on NFLN. Not sure who I would have picked here McCarron maybe. I already said i would take Jace Amaro with the 2nd round pick and Tre Mason with the third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Why not pick in the 5th rd ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Why not pick in the 5th rd ? We did pick in the 5th. We had 2 in 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 We did pick in the 5th. We had 2 in 5th Thanks missed that, I still would take someone at 149 in a deep draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I love this draft for the Bills. they have taken a leap - especially in some O line prospects. love the S J trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Hey! These later picks are just wanta be's. See who makes the team and than tell Mr. W he is great. It's great to make changes but consistantsy in line play is what it's all about. And he better not mess with Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Agreed. Sounds like Donald is a guy you double team if it were a real game. Not shocking that a super quick top-10 talent beat a really big OG prospect. If a guy could be really big/strong and really great against quick guys, then he would be drafted in the 1st round, not 5th. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I like most of the moves, but this one puzzles me. There weren't two players left in the fifth that the Bills wanted so they picked up an extra seventh rounder? If there weren't two guys that you want in round five there sure as hell won't be in RD 7. There are lots of players on their board with the exact same grade. I seriously doubt teams do very much to differentiate rounds 5, 6 and 7. He traded one pick for two, with a bigger benfit next year. No drama here, nothing wrong with the trade either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 There are lots of players on their board with the exact same grade. I seriously doubt teams do very much to differentiate rounds 5, 6 and 7. He traded one pick for two, with a bigger benfit next year. No drama here, nothing wrong with the trade either. Exactly. There is very little difference from the 5th to the 7th and even the first level of the top paid UDFA. There was a good interview with Nickell Robey last week on GR and he said the Bills started calling him in the 5th round saying they were interested in drafting him, and spoke to him a couple times during the draft, and then right after the draft Donnie Henderson convinced him to sign with the Bills as an UDFA, and he became a real contributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 You don't find it at all troubling a 6'5' 330 guy got pwned by a guy 6'1' 285? Also the general rule when you trade picks a year away is 1 round higher than what you gave away. for example a 2014 2nd round pick = 2015 1st round pick. I don't buy into this he's good because he moves around stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Polian just about always stand pat? Aaron Donald tooled on everyone at the Senior Bowl. Especially during one-on-one blocking drills. What's your point? Richardson is known to have trouble against speed rushers, but is a road grater in the running game. He will do just fine as an interior lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Exactly. There is very little difference from the 5th to the 7th and even the first level of the top paid UDFA. There was a good interview with Nickell Robey last week on GR and he said the Bills started calling him in the 5th round saying they were interested in drafting him, and spoke to him a couple times during the draft, and then right after the draft Donnie Henderson convinced him to sign with the Bills as an UDFA, and he became a real contributor. So basically for UDFAs the team tactic is to start acting like the hot girlfriend who will maybe make a date with you, but is a little busy this week and then next, but then will totally make out with you the following week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 So basically for UDFAs the team tactic is to start acting like the hot girlfriend who will maybe make a date with you, but is a little busy this week and then next, but then will totally make out with you the following week? Seems like it. Although the hot girlfriend probably said that same thing to five other guys and then never made out with them, or they hit on another girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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