YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Jernigan, Mettenberger (diluted sample), Henderson among others... FOX Sports NFL @NFLonFOX 1h More than 10 prospects were identified as having failed drug tests or had a diluted sample at Combine http://foxs.pt/1ik7lA6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Hopefully, this takes Mettenberger off our board. Never got his hype. Played with 2 potential 1st round Wrs & was just whatever. Now, he sounds like he's got a shaky character. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Why couldn't Maybin, McCargo, Mike Williams and James Hardy fail their drug tests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Mettenberger's agent says his sample was diluted because he was under doctor's orders to drink a lot of water to avoid cramps. I understand this... but I work in HR and we tell our new hires not to drink too much water before the drug test in order to avoid this. The reality is they would need to drink gallons of water in the hours before the test to actually deliver a diluted sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 My ex failed for diluted sample. All she did was have water in the morning before the test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Seantrel Henderson? Well that is a shocker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmoove Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Dilution points to a masking agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Amazing how these stories always come out a week before the draft, even when they move the draft back a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You either have to be incredibly stupid or just don't care in order to fail a drug test when you know exactly when you will be taking it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You either have to be incredibly stupid or just don't care in order to fail a drug test when you know exactly when you will be taking it Yup - the drugs aren't the problem here it's a much bigger issue for those that fail (though ZM might be an exception). I don't really care if our pick smokes, but don't get caught on an announced and fully scheduled months in advance test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 When I ran track for Mississippi State, all athletes had random drug test. I was a distance runner, so I drank a lot of water to stay hydrated. Got called in for a drug test. Sample was diluted. And boom, I was being "randomly" selected for drug test left and right. Pretty sure a few of the players at the combine w/ diluted samples did the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) It is quite easy to end up with a diluted sample. I've had it happen to me inadvertently as well. I don't go anywhere without water and stay well hydrated. You're usually allowed to retest. Diluted can't be an automatic character assasination if you're not offered a follow up. When I ran track for Mississippi State, all athletes had random drug test. I was a distance runner, so I drank a lot of water to stay hydrated. Got called in for a drug test. Sample was diluted. And boom, I was being "randomly" selected for drug test left and right. Pretty sure a few of the players at the combine w/ diluted samples did the same thing. Exactly. Edited May 6, 2014 by SmokinES3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I would advise all of these young men to hire Richard Sherman's attorney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Add em all to the board, at least these guys are motivated to do whatever it takes to become a winner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 This creates some value for us. If these guys drop because of failed drug tests I say take them if they can play. Many star players in the NFL not only smoke weed, but also failed drug tests for it. I mean we drafted Kiko Alonso in round two (multiple arrests), but we wouldn't draft someone who smoked a joint? I find that hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 This creates some value for us. If these guys drop because of failed drug tests I say take them if they can play. Many star players in the NFL not only smoke weed, but also failed drug tests for it. I mean we drafted Kiko Alonso in round two (multiple arrests), but we wouldn't draft someone who smoked a joint? I find that hard to believe. We will probably draft 5 that have and a few of those probably pretty regularly. Failing the combine drug test raises concerns that have little to do with actual drug use and a lot to do with judgement, and motivation. Things like "does he just not care?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 College kids smoking weed? Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) This creates some value for us. If these guys drop because of failed drug tests I say take them if they can play. Many star players in the NFL not only smoke weed, but also failed drug tests for it. I mean we drafted Kiko Alonso in round two (multiple arrests), but we wouldn't draft someone who smoked a joint? I find that hard to believe. The fact they did it isn't as much the issue as WHEN they did it. If they fail the combine drug test (diluted samples explained by overhydration notwithstanding) likely shows they are either stupid, don't care, or addicted. Or all 3. Mike Adams from OSU failed a few years ago (marijuana) at the combine and the Steelers still took him in the 2nd round. He wasn't even that good and still isn't but he drove to Pittsburgh in the time between the test reveal to the teams (which is before the info is released to the media) and begged them to draft him, pleading it was a one-time mistake, etc. He always dreamed of playng for the Steelers. Unfortunately, they did, and not only is a not that good of a player (he was never that motivated) he has gotten in trouble since. The bottom line is it is a clear red flag. A kid like Jernigan had no character issues before this and it may not hurt him as I believe he was one that had a diluted sample. Seantrel Henderson is probably looking at not getting drafted as he has had multiple instances of problems. College kids smoking weed? Go figure. During the combine period???? Come on. Stupid. Edited May 6, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The fact they did it isn't as much the issue as WHEN they did it. If they fail the combine drug test (diluted samples explained by overhydration notwithstanding) likely shows they are either stupid, don't care, or addicted. Or all 3. Mike Adams from OSU failed a few years ago (marijuana) at the combine and the Steelers still took him in the 2nd round. He wasn't even that good and still isn't but he drove to Pittsburgh in the time between the test reveal to the teams (which is before the info is released to the media) and begged them to draft him, pleading it was a one-time mistake, etc. He always dreamed of playng for the Steelers. Unfortunately, they did, and not only is a not that good of a player (he was never that motivated) he has gotten in trouble since. The bottom line is it is a clear red flag. A kid like Jernigan had no character issues before this and it may not hurt him as I believe he was one that had a diluted sample. Seantrel Henderson is probably looking at not getting drafted as he has had multiple instances of problems. During the combine period???? Come on. Stupid. Yup and Mettenberger has had prior issues and that's why he ended up at LSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The fact they did it isn't as much the issue as WHEN they did it. If they fail the combine drug test (diluted samples explained by overhydration notwithstanding) likely shows they are either stupid, don't care, or addicted. Or all 3. Mike Adams from OSU failed a few years ago (marijuana) at the combine and the Steelers still took him in the 2nd round. He wasn't even that good and still isn't but he drove to Pittsburgh in the time between the test reveal to the teams (which is before the info is released to the media) and begged them to draft him, pleading it was a one-time mistake, etc. He always dreamed of playng for the Steelers. Unfortunately, they did, and not only is a not that good of a player (he was never that motivated) he has gotten in trouble since. The bottom line is it is a clear red flag. A kid like Jernigan had no character issues before this and it may not hurt him as I believe he was one that had a diluted sample. Seantrel Henderson is probably looking at not getting drafted as he has had multiple instances of problems. During the combine period???? Come on. Stupid. That still creates value for us. Would we all not take Justin Houston or Keenan Allen? Also, I have no problem with the failed drug test. A player could simply be rehabbing an injury and wants to avoid an opiate addiction. Then again, the NFL would have no problem with Vicodin. I'm not going to judge them as I do not live in almost near constant pain, and many football players do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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