FluffHead Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 @JohnKryk: "Toronto #Bills" unlikely. Clause in team's relocation agreement forbids sale to owner who'd relocate. My analysis: http://t.co/L6nI7J9KFc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Is that even legal? Then again, the NFL is exempt from a lot of crap so whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 What a great article! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 This is great news!! I can't believe the inept Bills management would negotiate such a deal with the state (sarcasm font). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wet blanket chimes in @ByTimGraham: Toronto is within 90 miles of Buffalo and considered Buffalo's NFL territory. Moving the team there might not be considered relocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wet blanket chimes in @ByTimGraham: Toronto is within 90 miles of Buffalo and considered Buffalo's NFL territory. Moving the team there might not be considered relocation. This has been my fear for a while. I'm sure a good lawyer could argue it's no different than building a stadium anywhere else in WNY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wet blanket chimes in @ByTimGraham: Toronto is within 90 miles of Buffalo and considered Buffalo's NFL territory. Moving the team there might not be considered relocation. If the agreement is this thorough do you think that the state and county would overlook the Toronto threat? I am sure that there is language in there strictly to protect them from TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wet blanket chimes in @ByTimGraham: Toronto is within 90 miles of Buffalo and considered Buffalo's NFL territory. Moving the team there might not be considered relocation. As much as he might be technically right about the market crap he's arguing, I don't think there's any way somebody could argue moving a team to another country, when no other team plays in that country, wouldn't be considered relocation. "Wet blanket" indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wet blanket chimes in @ByTimGraham: Toronto is within 90 miles of Buffalo and considered Buffalo's NFL territory. Moving the team there might not be considered relocation. What an irrepressible !@#$. The Non-Relocation Agreement specifically refers to not relocating "from the Stadium"--- ie, Ralph Wilson Stadium. Unless the Ralph is physically transported to Ontario, it doesn't matter a lick that Toronto is 90 miles away from Buffalo--- page 6, Article 3 (b): http://www2.erie.gov/exec/sites/www2.erie.gov.exec/files/uploads/Buffalo%20Bills%20Non-Relocation%20Agreement.pdf Maybe Tim Graham should actually read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wet blanket chimes in @ByTimGraham: Toronto is within 90 miles of Buffalo and considered Buffalo's NFL territory. Moving the team there might not be considered relocation. Yeah, except it is a lease agreement with the effing Erie county and NYS. Unless I suck at geography, I could have sworn that Toronto isn't even in the USA. What an irrepressible !@#$. The Non-Relocation Agreement specifically refers to not relocating "from the Stadium"--- ie, Ralph Wilson Stadium. Unless the Ralph is physically transported to Ontario, it doesn't matter a lick that Toronto is 90 miles away from Buffalo--- page 6, Article 3 (b): http://www2.erie.gov/exec/sites/www2.erie.gov.exec/files/uploads/Buffalo%20Bills%20Non-Relocation%20Agreement.pdf Maybe Tim Graham should actually read it. Yeah that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 This has been my fear for a while. I'm sure a good lawyer could argue it's no different than building a stadium anywhere else in WNY. A good lawyer would argue that. A great lawyer would not argue anything and let the team move to Los Angeles. The clause means nothing, contracts are meaningless in this country now-a-days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 What an irrepressible !@#$. The Non-Relocation Agreement specifically refers to not relocating "from the Stadium"--- ie, Ralph Wilson Stadium. Unless the Ralph is physically transported to Ontario, it doesn't matter a lick that Toronto is 90 miles away from Buffalo--- page 6, Article 3 (b): http://www2.erie.gov/exec/sites/www2.erie.gov.exec/files/uploads/Buffalo%20Bills%20Non-Relocation%20Agreement.pdf Maybe Tim Graham should actually read it. Good call. John Kryk just tweeted this as well. "The stadium" is indeed defined as the ralph therefor the distance to Toronto is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 A good lawyer would argue that. A great lawyer would not argue anything and let the team move to Los Angeles. The clause means nothing, contracts are meaningless in this country now-a-days. The problem with that is that all legal disputes on the lease are settled in Erie County Court (I believe). It certainly isn't going to be a level playing field for someone looking to move the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The problem with that is that all legal disputes on the lease are settled in Erie County Court (I believe). It certainly isn't going to be a level playing field for someone looking to move the team. sWhoever buys in the team is going to have money. Money is power and money walks. BS doesn't. Enough money would get the Bills moved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Doesn't this just say they can't sell the team to someone that intends to break the lease? How would that even be regulated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 sWhoever buys in the team is going to have money. Money is power and money walks. BS doesn't. Enough money would get the Bills moved That is a pretty naive take JBoyst. The process is in place for what it will take to move the team. The new owner will have to prove in 2020 that the county violated the lease terms. They will have to prove this in Erie County Court. Also, is any else tired of Massare begging for credit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 LoL at the folks who still refuse to see the good news. Anything is possible, but it's not likely. Enjoy your football team into perpetuity. That is a pretty naive take JBoyst. The process is in place for what it will take to move the team. The new owner will have to prove in 2020 that the county violated the lease terms. They will have to prove this in Erie County Court. Also, is any else tired of Massare begging for credit? https://twitter.com/...969684326547456 No. He did say this was the case a long time ago and some folks treated him like someone who had no real info. He deserves his props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) That is a pretty naive take JBoyst. The process is in place for what it will take to move the team. The new owner will have to prove in 2020 that the county violated the lease terms. They will have to prove this in Erie County Court. Also, is any else tired of Massare begging for credit? you're right, but the real power behind this is that it is one more thing that allows Mary Wilson to sell the team to whoever she wants, specifically a pro Buffalo group. At least that's my take on it. Also, I'm not tired of it, because he obviously had looked into it and people jumped on him for relaying this info. Edited April 29, 2014 by sodbuster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 It would take quite the !@#$ to buy a team like ours & relocate the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Doesn't this just say they can't sell the team to someone that intends to break the lease? How would that even be regulated? Its regulated up front by who they choose to sell the team to. And by selling the team to someone with a business plan that would show how they can keep the team in WNY and make money. Is a TO group or L.A. group going through the hassle of that type of in-depth plan if they are just going to move the team? Edited April 29, 2014 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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