dailar Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Gabe Carimi has been released by the bucs. Only 25 and has played tackle and guard. Now before anyone comes out with the "I've heard of him, he must be good, sign him" stuff, I just want to say I dont understand where this kid went wrong. He looked a sure fire star coming out of college. His head has never seemed in the game at the pro level. Is it fixable? Would a move to guard suit him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Gabe Carimi has been released by the bucs. Only 25 and has played tackle and guard. Now before anyone comes out with the "I've heard of him, he must be good, sign him" stuff, I just want to say I dont understand where this kid went wrong. He looked a sure fire star coming out of college. His head has never seemed in the game at the pro level. Is it fixable? Would a move to guard suit him? He's been cut, but I still think he's worth a look-see and bring him in for a visit...Guard, not Tackle, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Bargain basement for a camp body? Sure. I wouldn't, under any scenario, count on him to make the team...he's been brutal as a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Turnstile. Killed the bears w his rookie year. Now cut again. Huge no just like Martin from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailar Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Turnstile. Killed the bears w his rookie year. Now cut again. Huge no just like Martin from me. Terrible injury in week 2 of rookie year but i know what you mean. He was one of the guys coming out of college who just looked like he was going to be a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Turnstile. Killed the bears w his rookie year. Now cut again. Huge no just like Martin from me. I have a friend who is a Bears fan and he thinks this guy is way worse than anyone the Bills have put out there this past season including Colin Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailar Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 I have a friend who is a Bears fan and he thinks this guy is way worse than anyone the Bills have put out there this past season including Colin Brown. There's always one who takes it too far! This is an evaluation of Carimi after this season. Ouch. Size: 6-7, 314 Production: 218 snaps, 1 QB sack, 1 QB hurry Positives: Size. Average athleticism. Negatives: Misses with initial punch consistently. Gets lifted off his feet by defenders at times. Lacks upper body strength. Waist bender. Drops head and doesn’t see what he’s hitting. Completely whiffs on some blocks. Ends up on the ground on nearly every play. Base is too wide and feet stay too parallel to the line of scrimmage. Doesn’t extend arms or leverage position. Gets tossed around like a ragdoll. Summary: Sadly, there isn’t a lot to like with Carimi. He played poorly early in the season as the left guard filling in for an injured Nicks. He eventually lost the job and became the extra offensive tackle the Bucs would bring in for unbalanced formations. He didn’t succeed there. His play was really pretty embarrassing. Some might attribute his lack of production due to a knee injury and an infection that hampered him throughout the season. He just doesn’t seem to “get it” and doesn’t want to hit. He takes the easy way out on plays and doesn’t get physical. Will be paid $1.33M+ in 2014 (salary, roster bonus, and workout bonus) if he remains on the roster. Cut candidate if room is needed on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 There's always one who takes it too far! This is an evaluation of Carimi after this season. Ouch. Size: 6-7, 314 Production: 218 snaps, 1 QB sack, 1 QB hurry Positives: Size. Average athleticism. Negatives: Misses with initial punch consistently. Gets lifted off his feet by defenders at times. Lacks upper body strength. Waist bender. Drops head and doesn’t see what he’s hitting. Completely whiffs on some blocks. Ends up on the ground on nearly every play. Base is too wide and feet stay too parallel to the line of scrimmage. Doesn’t extend arms or leverage position. Gets tossed around like a ragdoll. Summary: Sadly, there isn’t a lot to like with Carimi. He played poorly early in the season as the left guard filling in for an injured Nicks. He eventually lost the job and became the extra offensive tackle the Bucs would bring in for unbalanced formations. He didn’t succeed there. His play was really pretty embarrassing. Some might attribute his lack of production due to a knee injury and an infection that hampered him throughout the season. He just doesn’t seem to “get it” and doesn’t want to hit. He takes the easy way out on plays and doesn’t get physical. Will be paid $1.33M+ in 2014 (salary, roster bonus, and workout bonus) if he remains on the roster. Cut candidate if room is needed on the roster Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 We need productive players, not names we've heard of. This board seem to always be focused on bringing in the next big name available. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why this name player is available? I'm sure there are many other O-linemen available we don't know what their names are who more productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailar Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 I started this thread saying it was not about picking him up and was about wondering where he went wrong and was it fixable. We need productive players, not names we've heard of. This board seem to always be focused on bringing in the next big name available. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why this name player is available? I'm sure there are many other O-linemen available we don't know what their names are who more productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Some guys are just better players in college than they are in the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I watched Carimi when the Bears picked him up from Wisconsin in hopes of shoring up pass protection for Cutler. One game in particular against the 49ers he was so awful it was hard to watch, as he was bull rushed and tossed aside by DEs and LBs that were giving up 50-60 pounds on him. I was amazed because he was such a highly-touted sure-fire pick by the so-called experts. ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. wrote that Gabe Carimi is “a guy who loves to run block and will sustain those blocks. But he can also take on great pass-rushers, and has shown enough that it figures he could fill in at either tackle position early, potentially starting on the right side with the goal to become a starting left tackle.” I think he is the poster child example of player evaluators being mesmerized by height and size and just not looking close enough to see what kind of a football player he really was. But he really did not seem to have the issues or the horrible reputation in college that he garnered in the pros. The only sure thing about the draft is that it is never a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 He's an interesting case. I seem to remember last year that it wasn't just the Bears that wanted to dump him - he was actively requesting a trade. He was so bad in Chicago that he was even replaced his last year by Bills whipping boy Jon Scott (that's rough). Last year in Tampa, he reunited with his line coach from college and still couldn't get it done. I'd definitely kick the tires for camp fodder, but third chances rarely work out. Sometimes, guys just suck at the next level, which is too bad because he had the best nickname in the NFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I watched Carimi when the Bears picked him up from Wisconsin in hopes of shoring up pass protection for Cutler. One game in particular against the 49ers he was so awful it was hard to watch, as he was bull rushed and tossed aside by DEs and LBs that were giving up 50-60 pounds on him. I was amazed because he was such a highly-touted sure-fire pick by the so-called experts. ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. wrote that Gabe Carimi is “a guy who loves to run block and will sustain those blocks. But he can also take on great pass-rushers, and has shown enough that it figures he could fill in at either tackle position early, potentially starting on the right side with the goal to become a starting left tackle.” I think he is the poster child example of player evaluators being mesmerized by height and size and just not looking close enough to see what kind of a football player he really was. But he really did not seem to have the issues or the horrible reputation in college that he garnered in the pros. The only sure thing about the draft is that it is never a sure thing. Mel Kiper rules!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) All it takes for some of these guys is a change of scenery...look what Buffalo was able to do for Jerry Hughes, once he got an opportunity. Not to mention, working with someone like Marrone, might be a good thing for him...he is at least worth bringing in for training camp. If he pans out, great, it'd be like an extra draft pick (to an extent, due to age)...and it would allow them to look elsewhere in the draft. If he fails, oh well...nothing lost...and now they know they might need to draft another guard. It sure cannot hurt to bring him in...same with Jonathan Martin. They were once (not long ago) good football players...surround them with people who WANT to help/see them to succeed. Edited February 11, 2014 by Bob Malooga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Amazing that he couldn't be coached up to the NFL. the thing about bringing guys like this in is the team is using valuable time evaluating and then investing effort into what has already been a very poor showing. Some of you guys keep the one legged mutts too i suspect , and find the good within them. i am like that , sure. But the NFL is about now more than potential. Those long gone days of a Father type coach working one on one after class helping a kid develop confidence are far far from what is on the field today. Martin and Carimi who have Failed should Not be Bills pet projects. The game moves too fast to find gems in the bushes these days. for better or worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Ok but who's going to thrown him the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Carimi is no Chas Reingold that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 All it takes for some of these guys is a change of scenery...look what Buffalo was able to do for Jerry Hughes, once he got an opportunity. Not to mention, working with someone like Marrone, might be a good thing for him...he is at least worth bringing in for training camp. If he pans out, great, it'd be like an extra draft pick (to an extent, due to age)...and it would allow them to look elsewhere in the draft. If he fails, oh well...nothing lost...and now they know they might need to draft another guard. It sure cannot hurt to bring him in...same with Jonathan Martin. They were once (not long ago) good football players...surround them with people who WANT to help/see them to succeed. There are a lot of good college players that end up poor pros- what makes you choose carimi and Martin over the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Turnstile. Killed the bears w his rookie year. Now cut again. Huge no just like Martin from me. He was seriously injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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