dollars 2 donuts Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 As a Roman Catholic (former altar boy, Jesuit educated), I don't get where religion makes some people so closed minded. My understanding of religion is to treat everyone with respect and live your life the best you can. Jesus stood with the people who were discriminated with the most. Some people use religion as a way to oppress others. How is commending another person's sexuality different than Muslims oppressing women? People just need to worry about their own lives. I too have the resume of being a former alter boy and Jesuit educated. ...and I concur with your sentiments completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Does he have a tattoo? Does he eat shrimp cocktail? PTR He also plants different crops in the same field and wears fabric made of two types of thread. Finding reasons to hate someone based on a loose collection of 2,000 year old stories is fun! Wheee!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) As a Roman Catholic (former altar boy, Jesuit educated), I don't get where religion makes some people so closed minded. My understanding of religion is to treat everyone with respect and live your life the best you can. Jesus stood with the people who were discriminated with the most. Some people use religion as a way to oppress others. How is commending another person's sexuality different than Muslims oppressing women? People just need to worry about their own lives. Same here. I never got that either. This wasn't an issue when I was growing up (at least not in the public domain), so maybe things would have been different, but I remember being taught the opposite. Love your neighbor as yourself. Religion, I do believe, is a very good thing. But like anything else when taken to the extreme it can be bad. I also believe that 99% (meaning the vast majority, not an actual stat) of religious (all religions) people are good people. But the 1% get the attention and generalizations are made. It's unfortunate but not surprising. Edited February 11, 2014 by dubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I feel really dumb for getting into that conversation now I know who I was dealing with. Sorry folks! I'll go back to never posting! Ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I feel really dumb for getting into that conversation now I know who I was dealing with. Sorry folks! I'll go back to never posting! Ha ha. There is nothing wrong with getting in a conversation about things. I think healthy discussion about topics is a good thing. To be honest, I was actually intrigued by reading some opposing views. I think it only helps everyone better understand all the angles about an issue. But, the downside is when you get into a conversation with someone who's dug in and has no desire to learn, but rather would like to preach. You also run the risk of it devolving into name-calling or insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I feel really dumb for getting into that conversation now I know who I was dealing with. Sorry folks! I'll go back to never posting! Ha ha. There is nothing wrong with getting in a conversation about things. I think healthy discussion about topics is a good thing. To be honest, I was actually intrigued by reading some opposing views. I think it only helps everyone better understand all the angles about an issue. But, the downside is when you get into a conversation with someone who's dug in and has no desire to learn, but rather would like to preach. You also run the risk of it devolving into name-calling or insulting. Wow. What did I miss? Looks like a the server crashed halfway down page 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Wow. What did I miss? Looks like a the server crashed halfway down page 16. Apparently something went down between 10:00 and 11:16 pm yesterday...can anyone give us the Cliff's Notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Apparently something went down between 10:00 and 11:16 pm yesterday...can anyone give us the Cliff's Notes? that would be counterproductive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 that would be counterproductive Can you PM me and bandit the Cliff's Notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Can you PM me and bandit the Cliff's Notes? no! Really pretty quiet last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 that would be counterproductive My apologies then...I was merely curious Can you PM me and bandit the Cliff's Notes? This I would go for.... no! Really pretty quiet last night. Bummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Please stop replying to posts that you know will be deleted. You're doubling our work, we have to delete the original and any posts that quote it. Give a mod a break. I can just picture people sitting around saying "You hate gays? Well, I hate mods. Let's do this..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I can just picture people sitting around saying "You hate gays? Well, I hate mods. Let's do this..." At least that is understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I'm upset that I missed the fireworks!! It was inevitable that this thread was going to get ugly at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 And, my apologies to getting a little political with posts at the beginning of this discussion. I didn't realize that there was a separate forum for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 that would be counterproductive yeah, my bad for all the quoting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 At least that is understandable. LOL, no matter one's interpretation of ancient texts, I think we can all agree that one DOES choose to be a moderator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 LOL, no matter one's interpretation of ancient texts, I think we can all agree that one DOES choose to be a moderator. thanks for reminding me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I believe homosexuality is both by choice and from birth. Let me explain. You're not actually gay until you have sex with somebody from the same sex. For example, a person with homicidal thoughts isn't a murderer until he kills someone. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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