NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Well...true...although I would argue that mcgloin didn't really play his way out of the job. He played decent enough. Probably Better than Manuel this year. Regardless, if you asked me 2 years ago, I would have said mcgloin was a 3rd stringer at penn state, with ZERO chance at an nfl practice squad. Instead he broke penn state records after Obrien came on. It's stunning he STARTED an nfl game this year. 5 star qbs are lining up at penn state because of mcgloin and Obrien, who is getting the reputation as a great QB coach. I think the tea leaves are lined up that he states at penn state this year. But i can see where this Houston job is tempting. But at the end of the day, I think Houston goes with lovie smith. With a chance to grab the top QB in the draft along with a proven QB developer I can see why the Texans wouldn't mind paying the buyout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 According to Bleacher Report, a couple of big recruits said they spoke to OBrien and he said it wasn't true......we shall see. Bleacher reporting what recruits are being told- the layers of issues are thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Let me add one more layer since this is a bills board. Obrien and Doug marrone are best friends (I.e. best man in each others weddings - or at least in one of their weddings...I can't recall). Marrone came out last month and said he doesn't see Obrien leaving either. http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/06/doug-marrone-says-bill-obrien-not-leaving-penn-state-for-nfl/ More plot thickening.... George oleary is a close friend of obriens. Together they set up a game (psu vs ucf) in Ireland next year, billed as o'brien vs o'leary. I gotta think Obrien is looking forward to that...although its probably the last reason to not take an nfl job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Report: Penn State coach Bill O’Brien to interview with Houston Texans If he does go, Mike Pettine will become a huge prospect for the PSU head coaching job. He's a PA boy, and he and his father have a lot of connections to Happy Valley. By the way Barbarian, the word down here in PA is that O'Brian is gone, gone, gone . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) Contingency Plan? @NFL_ATL Texans to interview Ken Whisenhunt http://www.nfl.com/n...-ken-whisenhunt Edited December 29, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 @RapSheet From #NFLGameDay: Penn State is preparing to lose Bill O’Brien. Their AD is ready to make a strong push for #Bucs coach Greg Schiano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Shefter is a bum. A week ago he was finally "able to report" that Obrien reduced his buyout making him more attractive to nfl teams. While grew, this was not breaking news, and not worthy of espn's home screen. Anyone following penn state knew this 6 months ago. Schefter fluff piece: http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/92044/obriens-reduced-buyout-widens-nfl-door Real story from June: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/20/bill-obriens-buyout-would-be-affordable-for-an-nfl-owner/ The. Schefter comes out and says Obrien is the top guy and they are working on a deal (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10205777/bill-obrien-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-working-deal-become-houston-texans-head-coach) Then the owner of the texans says: not true. More interviews coming. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/28/texans-owner-says-other-candidates-will-interview-next-week/ Obrien tells 5 star recruits recruits and star QB not true. I'm staying. http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2013/12/28/5252328/bill-obrien-penn-state-houston-texans-thomas-holley-chirstian-hackenberg Ten penn state picks up a new 3 star commit http://victorybellrings.com/2013/12/28/penn-state-football-recruiting-nittany-lions-add-3-star-ol/ Now the are interviewing wisenhunt, and people think its because talks broke down... This is ALL espn spin. It's house of cards...nfl style. Which coincidentally would make a great miniseries somewhere. Based on everything I think i know of Obrien, the man is not going anywhere. Last year he did basically the same thing, telling his recruits he is not going anywhere. http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2013/01/bill_obrien_is_staying_at_penn.html I gotta believe this is all smokescreens (by all parties). http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/28/beware-smokescreens-and-misdirections/. I'll believe it when it's announced. Not until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agardin Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) If O Brien leaves, PSU will have to get someone big. Pettine might be the right guy , I have no idea but if I am the AD I am calling Tressel. I always thought OSU's violations were minor and over blown or is it too soon to bring in a guy that was busted for organizational control issues? Edited December 29, 2013 by agardin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 @RapSheet We knew last year that Bill O’Brien interviewed with #Eagles and #Browns. I’m told he also talked with the #Chargers & #Cardinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 If O Brien leaves, PSU will have to get someone big. Pettine might be the right guy , I have no idea but if I am the AD I am calling Tressel. I always thought OSU's violations were minor and over blown or is it too soon to bring in a guy that was busted for organizational control issues? 3 names likely to be discussed for psu. 1. Mike Munchack - psu grad 2. James Franklin, Vanderbilt HC 3. Greg Schiano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) 3 names likely to be discussed for psu. 1. Mike Munchack - psu grad 2. James Franklin, Vanderbilt HC 3. Greg Schiano Yep. If O Brien leaves, PSU will have to get someone big. Pettine might be the right guy , I have no idea but if I am the AD I am calling Tressel. I always thought OSU's violations were minor and over blown or is it too soon to bring in a guy that was busted for organizational control issues? OSU did its own investigation for the NCAA and if they had left it up to them nothing would have been done, like at Oregon and Miami. Yes, the violations were very minor compared to what has happened at other schools. Tress lied to the NCAA and that was why they happened and he has a show cause penalty. He is an outstanding coach. I think he will coach again. I would be surprised if it was in the B10 but you never know. With a chance to grab the top QB in the draft along with a proven QB developer I can see why the Texans wouldn't mind paying the buyout. I wouldn't be too excited about B O'B if I was a fan of the Texans or whoever hires him. His strengths as a HC at PSU won't really translate to the NFL game (recruiting, keeping a team motivated i the face of bowl ineligibility, beating bad Big 10 teams, overcoming scholarship reductions). He was coach of the year last year in the B10 but it should have been Urban who was undefeated. PSU went 8-4 but lost to the good teams they played. Same thing this year but managed to beat Wisky which is decent. Lost 63-14 or something to Buckeyes.... I think he has a ways to go as a HC. And we all know how well the former Pats assistants have done as HCs in the NFL. Edited December 29, 2013 by YoloInTheBlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Houston Texans plan to hire new coach by Tuesday The Houston Texans are taking advantage of firing Gary Kubiak before the season's end. Just as other NFL teams begin their coaching search, the Texans plan to be choosing their future leader. The organization plans to wrap up its coaching search by Tuesday, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Saturday, per sources familiar with the team's thinking. "The process continues," Texans owner Bob McNair told the Houston Chronicle. "We have other interviews scheduled next week. It isn't over." As Rapoport reported earlier this week, the Texans interviewed Bill O'Brien on Thursday and the Penn State coach remains one of the team's top choices. O'Brien had his NFL buyout reduced from $13 million to $6.5 million in March. That news was made public in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 @RapSheet From #NFLGameDay: Penn State is preparing to lose Bill O’Brien. Their AD is ready to make a strong push for #Bucs coach Greg Schiano. Ha, that would be perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 @TribSports Reports: Penn State coach Bill O'Brien could go to NFL as soon as Tuesday, reports @C_AdamskiTrib http://trib.me/1hb7PNM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 @TribSports Reports: Penn State coach Bill O'Brien could go to NFL as soon as Tuesday, reports @C_AdamskiTrib http://trib.me/1hb7PNM I've heard that Houston is attempting to lock him down today...Shanahan-type money apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Well...true...although I would argue that mcgloin didn't really play his way out of the job. He played decent enough. Probably Better than Manuel this year. Regardless, if you asked me 2 years ago, I would have said mcgloin was a 3rd stringer at penn state, with ZERO chance at an nfl practice squad. Instead he broke penn state records after Obrien came on. It's stunning he STARTED an nfl game this year. 5 star qbs are lining up at penn state because of mcgloin and Obrien, who is getting the reputation as a great QB coach. I think the tea leaves are lined up that he states at penn state this year. But i can see where this Houston job is tempting. But at the end of the day, I think Houston goes with lovie smith. I have to totally disagree here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I have to totally disagree here. Dont want to turn this into mcgloin vs manual...but... EJ: 180/306 58.8% MM: 118/211 55.9% EJ: 11TDs in 10 Games MM: 8 TDs in 7 Games EJ: 1,979 yards, 6.44 avg MM: 1,547 yards, 7.33 avg EJ: 77.7 rtg; 42.3 QBR MM: 76.1 rtg; 49.5 QBR Honestly, 2013 as a guide...the two were pretty damn similar in stats. On O'Brien...the PSU channels are extremely quiet. Recruits who previously said "obrien told me today he was staying, ignore the noise" are now backing away, and all of them are using the same terminology "i have spoke to obrien and i am comfortable with the situation". almost appears as if it is talking points, and someone told them to back off on their rheteric. Other reports indicate obrien is negotiating with PSU *AND* houston, and that his demands of PSU are minor. The biggest sticking point appears to not be money, but additional football resources, which the university is afraid of providing in fear of stoking the "football culture" issue. This sounds like a big bold power play by obrien against the PSU administration (which does not have alumni support i might add). I am about 60% sure he stays at PSU. Today should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Dont want to turn this into mcgloin vs manual...but... EJ: 180/306 58.8% MM: 118/211 55.9% EJ: 11TDs in 10 Games MM: 8 TDs in 7 Games EJ: 1,979 yards, 6.44 avg MM: 1,547 yards, 7.33 avg EJ: 77.7 rtg; 42.3 QBR MM: 76.1 rtg; 49.5 QBR Honestly, 2013 as a guide...the two were pretty damn similar in stats. On O'Brien...the PSU channels are extremely quiet. Recruits who previously said "obrien told me today he was staying, ignore the noise" are now backing away, and all of them are using the same terminology "i have spoke to obrien and i am comfortable with the situation". almost appears as if it is talking points, and someone told them to back off on their rheteric. Other reports indicate obrien is negotiating with PSU *AND* houston, and that his demands of PSU are minor. The biggest sticking point appears to not be money, but additional football resources, which the university is afraid of providing in fear of stoking the "football culture" issue. This sounds like a big bold power play by obrien against the PSU administration (which does not have alumni support i might add). I am about 60% sure he stays at PSU. Today should be interesting. What "football resources" don't they have at Penn State? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I have a family member who has committed to Penn State to play football next year and he hasn't heard anything from O'Brien about him leaving or not. All he's said about it is that he's not going to worry about something he has no control over. I'm hoping O'Brien stays as he is fantastic for Penn State and he is a great coach, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 What "football resources" don't they have at Penn State? im guessing that they arent left wanting compared to 90% of programs, but after the incidents of the last few years, its probably a bit scaled back from what they once were given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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