3rdnlng Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 lol what a mindless rant. The science behind global warming is about as controversial in the scientific community as the "theory" the sun is the center of the solar system. Thanks to the funding sources for their continued research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Thanks to the funding sources for their continued research. Yeah they've totally obscured the truth about earth being the actual center of the universe. Damn libs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Yeah they've totally obscured the truth about earth being the actual center of the universe. Damn libs Meanwhile the Globwal Warming® cult has had their view of reality obstructed by their view of Uranus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) Whatever Happened To Global Warming: Now come climate scientists’ implausible explanations for why the ‘hiatus’ has passed the 15-year mark. On Sept. 23 the United Nations will host a party for world leaders in New York to pledge urgent action against climate change. Yet leaders from China, India and Germany have already announced that they won’t attend the summit and others are likely to follow, leaving President Obama looking a bit lonely. Could it be that they no longer regard it as an urgent threat that some time later in this century the air may get a bit warmer? In effect, this is all that’s left of the global-warming emergency the U.N. declared in its first report on the subject in 1990. The U.N. no longer claims that there will be dangerous or rapid climate change in the next two decades. Last September, between the second and final draft of its fifth assessment report, the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change quietly downgraded the warming it expected in the 30 years following 1995, to about 0.5 degrees Celsius from 0.7 (or, in Fahrenheit, to about 0.9 degrees, from 1.3). Even that is likely to be too high. The climate-research establishment has finally admitted openly what skeptic scientists have been saying for nearly a decade: Global warming has stopped since shortly before this century began. First the climate-research establishment denied that a pause existed, noting that if there was a pause, it would invalidate their theories. Now they say there is a pause (or “hiatus”), but that it doesn’t after all invalidate their theories. Alas, their explanations have made their predicament worse by implying that man-made climate change is so slow and tentative that it can be easily overwhelmed by natural variation in temperature—a possibility that they had previously all but ruled out. more at the link: . Edited September 6, 2014 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Defend this global warming people..... http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/08/report-no-global-warming-for-215-months/ The numbers are in and the verdict is that there has been no global warming for 17 years and 11 months, according to satellite data. Satellite data prepared by Lord Christopher Monckton shows there has been no warming trend from October of 1996 to August of 2014 — 215 months. To put this in perspective, kids graduating from high school this year have not lived through any global warming in their lifetimes. Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/08/report-no-global-warming-for-215-months/#ixzz3CkbcBzNo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Defend this global warming people..... http://dailycaller.c...for-215-months/ The numbers are in and the verdict is that there has been no global warming for 17 years and 11 months, according to satellite data. Satellite data prepared by Lord Christopher Monckton shows there has been no warming trend from October of 1996 to August of 2014 — 215 months. To put this in perspective, kids graduating from high school this year have not lived through any global warming in their lifetimes. Read more: http://dailycaller.c.../#ixzz3CkbcBzNo It is not enough to stabilize the temperature of the planet. It must be reduced!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 It is not enough to stabilize the temperature of the planet. It must be reduced!!!!!!! It is not enough to stabilize the temperature of the planet. It must be reduced!!!!!!! Equal temperatures for everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Equal temperatures for everyone! Ever notice that it's hotter in Africa, and colder in Scandinavia? Climate is a hate crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg F Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 lol what a mindless rant. The science behind global warming is about as controversial in the scientific community as the "theory" the sun is the center of the solar system of Eugenics early in the last century. There ... fixed if for you. You could insert numerous other examples of beliefs in history of science that are now known to be wrong. Science advances when theory matches reality. When reality deviates from theory then it is time to question the validity of the theory. Anything else would be ... well .... unscientific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 There ... fixed if for you. You could insert numerous other examples of beliefs in history of science that are now known to be wrong. Science advances when theory matches reality. When reality deviates from theory then it is time to question the validity of the theory. Anything else would be ... well .... unscientific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Defend this global warming people..... http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/08/report-no-global-warming-for-215-months/ The numbers are in and the verdict is that there has been no global warming for 17 years and 11 months, according to satellite data. Satellite data prepared by Lord Christopher Monckton shows there has been no warming trend from October of 1996 to August of 2014 — 215 months. To put this in perspective, kids graduating from high school this year have not lived through any global warming in their lifetimes. Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/08/report-no-global-warming-for-215-months/#ixzz3CkbcBzNo But if you think about how much air conditioning has increased over the last 20 year's it should have the net effect of slightly reducing surface temperatures. The fact that the temperature has stayed the same is proof of Global Warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 But if you think about how much air conditioning has increased over the last 20 year's it should have the net effect of slightly reducing surface temperatures. The fact that the temperature has stayed the same is proof of Global Warming. Gatorman is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg F Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 And your point is? That it has warmed since 1950? Nobody is really debating that it has warmed. The debate is over why. Lets look at the entire surface record. Notice the increase before 1950 from 1910 to 1945? This is before there was any significant increase in CO2. Perhaps you could comment on what caused that warming. Or perhaps the whole climate change thing is just an article of faith with you. Your religion so to speak. Instead of responding to my original point you chose to engage in misdirection with that silly little graph. The models, which is the only way we can understand a system as complex as the climate, have failed. All the dooms day scenarios, all the chicken little proclamations that were all going to die if we don't do something, all of them are based on the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Gatorman is that you? Gatorman had a small room to cool and it didn't have a window so he put a refrigerator in it and opened the door. He's still trying to figure out why the room temperature doesn't drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Gatorman had a small room to cool and it didn't have a window so he put a refrigerator in it and opened the door. He's still trying to figure out why the room temperature doesn't drop. "I've got the refrigerator going, and the room temperature's increasing. Must be global warming!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) But, let's not forget the 2 speculations, that began this thread, and, have been, for a year now, the ONLY way the Global Warming theory is preserved: 1. Heat hiding at bottom of ocean 2. The increased burning of coal in China, both creating, and stopping, Global Warming....at the same time Has anybody heard anything about these 2 speculations? I have not. Beyond the fact that neither passes the common sense test, I imagine we haven't heard anything more....because the evil Republicans in Congress have refused to fund further study on these 2 speculations. We should start sendiing the $ we borrow from China, back to China, immediately, to study that pollution. Also, we need a Sea Quest submarine, so we can go down to the bottom of the ocean and find the heat! I nominate Joe-One-Short-of-a-Six-Pack as for Captain of this vessel! A 49 page thread, and nothing has changed. This theory is either debunked entirely, or, one of these 2 speculations is true. Well, empirically, logically, and scientifically. The theology of Global Warming? That is another matter entirely. EDIT: And, I almost forgot: FEAR! Yes according to the German politician in the OP, Fear is necessary for this to work. Well, I ask you all: are any of you truly afraid of this issue? Are any of you truly afraid of being called names by the Global Warming Cult? Fear was required, but it is lacking. Sorry, leftists, but you'll have to find another vehicle to: implement world socialism, gain funding, get votes. Edited September 10, 2014 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) So, I don't know where the truth about global warming lies. As a scientist, there is tons of dogma and problems with both sides. I would strongly disagree the science is settled. I thought I'd share my simplistic way of looking at this issue. The data are relatively simple (not a lot of modeling) and it actually highlights quite well the amount of dogma being injected. My first go-to site: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ It tracks sea ice area for the arctic and antarctic. It has a paradigm or model for calculating areas, but it should be a fairly consistent model and it is updated daily. It also has this fantastic set of graphs along the right margin: http://nsidc.org/arc...-sea-ice-graph/ So you can track sea ice area over individual years. It is easy to see how we have been gradually losing sea ice over the decades the AGW people preach about. If you look at the minimums part (which we are now approaching) and individually click in the years from 2013 back to 2006 you have to wonder if we haven't hit the minimum since 2012 and are in a slow upswing. If you look at the maximums level around February, you can see that maximum extent for 2014 is surprisingly low due to the unusually warm winter up there. But I can tell you from checking bulletin boards of climate scientists that based on that low max they fully expected a far lower minimum than we will see this year. Minimum ice area will most likely be slightly increased or equivalent to 2013. AGW people think it's an anomaly in the trek to zero sea ice but is it? Time will tell. The other site which actually calculates arctic ice volume is PIOMAS: http://psc.apl.washi...volume-anomaly/ Looking at the first graph: http://psc.apl.washi...CurrentV2.1.png You see the downward AGW touted trend but since 2012 you have to wonder where the increasing volume will take us. When you couple all this with the recently flat Global temperature average and how temps haven't followed most of the predicted models you really have to wonder. Bottom line to me is that the next several years should shed some light on where the truth lies. Antarctica: Another great example of trying to find the truth. Antarctic sea ice has been well above average (see NSDIC site) but AGW folks are saying the loss of land ice well offsets it. Most of the "global warming" induced loss comes from the western end of Antarctica and actually ice thickness is increasing on the eastern end but not enough to neutralize the loss. Problem I have is there are active volcanoes under the Ross ice shelf on the continent and active undersea volcanoes in the Western Antarctic Ocean. http://www.techtimes...tarctic-ice.htm http://news.national...ience-tsunamis/ I couldn't find any of the global warming people trying to ascertain the contribution or changes in volcanic activity as it relates to the melting. Oh well, hopefully somebody will directly address it with some research. Bottom line is I'm just focusing on the polar ice data. Just some food for thought. Edited September 10, 2014 by GaryPinC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Alaska would be Florida? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/science/on-a-warmer-planet-which-cities-will-be-safest.html?_r=2 These people just won't quit!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Alaska would be Florida? http://www.nytimes.c...afest.html?_r=2 These people just won't quit!!!! Not even ten years ago, that sort of writing was called "science fiction." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Alaska would be Florida? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/science/on-a-warmer-planet-which-cities-will-be-safest.html?_r=2 These people just won't quit!!!! What about volcanoes, earthquakes, and tsunamis? Isn't Seattle sitting next to a ticking time-bomb? Anyway, I am more concerned about this: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/nyregion/black-bear-kills-rutgers-student-during-a-hike-in-new-jersey.html?from=promo Hope it is not Ed... Did they find a Honda fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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