dascottbills28 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Nice to have an aggressive head coach who will go for two points to tie up the game!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmjoyce113 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Coughlin just chose not to. I have a feeling that will hurt them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 good call, great execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Won us the game, ultimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Usually the rule of thumb is you only go for 2 when you need to but I thought with way the game was going that it was the right call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 and a gut feel not going off a chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Awesome catch by woods It was harder than it looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 That took guts by a rook HC, OC, QB and receiver. No way that happens last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 and...if it didnt work you all would be chastising Ralph, EJ. Woods, Marrone, Hacket, Doug, O-line, the long snapper, the punter, the place-kicker etc. Cut EJ. Cut Woods. Cut the O-line. Cut the refs. Cut the cheer-leaders. Just cut everybody....tomorrow at 6:00am. Lose all games and get Johnny sh*t-ball.....and on and on. This board is loaded with simpletons. God bless the 2 or 3 folks that have a clue here. I for one am happy we won a game against a struggling opponent. Hey you gotta start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I don't like the call, but I love the catch and I love the result. I think it was too soon, and your point expectation going for two is less than kicking so you only do it if you think something in the matchup makes it greater than 50% likely or if you need the two (late in the game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 just because it worked doesnt mean it was a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Loved it. Wanted it to happen but never actually believed Marrone would try it. Woods made a great play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 According the analytics "chart" it is the correct call whether you make it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Things are not in a vacuum. The choice at that time in the game differs depending on how your offense and defense is playing, as well as who you are playing. To me, it was the right call at the time because of how we were playing, and even if we missed, I wouldn't have thought, in retrospect, it was a bad call. It worked, obliviously. But I don't think that was a no brainier either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Awesome catch by woods The best catch of the day, and it was a beauty. Thank you Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 good result --generally not smart to go for 2 until very late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Teams convert 2 pointers at a significantly higher than 50% rate. They should happen more often based on the expected yield, but coaches are afraid of looking dumb when they fail. (Which isn't to say there's never merit to the 1 sure point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Was a good call..I woulda made the call...14-12...The right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 It seems like the Phil Simms' of the world have brainwashed a lot of people with this "chase the point" nonsense. The advantage of being down 1 as opposed to 2 pretty much always boils down to the possibility that a 2pt conversion will help you later in the game. EG 1: you give up a TD and now you're only down 8 instead of 9. EG 2: you score a TD and have the opportunity to extend the lead to 7, which you could not do if you were down 2. Does it really need to be explained what's wrong with this theory? Obviously it is assumed by every hack announcer (and a lot of coaches apparently) that every failed 2pt attempt with 20min's left is likely to be successful had they delayed that attempt until late in the 4th Qtr. Naturally there is zero math or logic to back this up. Going for 2 is clearly correct imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I hesitate to call him aggressive. Too many punts inside the opponents' 50 to say that. But it was a good sign. I even dare say that going for two and missing would have been better for the psyche than taking the 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I don't like the call, but I love the catch and I love the result. I think it was too soon, and your point expectation going for two is less than kicking so you only do it if you think something in the matchup makes it greater than 50% likely or if you need the two (late in the game). Basically how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddyskip Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Aggressive great to see a coach who isn't afraid of what people might think or say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 It has never mattered in the history of football when to go for the 2, only whether you make it or not, since that directly affects the only statistic that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 and...if it didnt work you all would be chastising Ralph, EJ. Woods, Marrone, Hacket, Doug, O-line, the long snapper, the punter, the place-kicker etc. Cut EJ. Cut Woods. Cut the O-line. Cut the refs. Cut the cheer-leaders. Just cut everybody....tomorrow at 6:00am. Lose all games and get Johnny sh*t-ball.....and on and on. This board is loaded with simpletons. God bless the 2 or 3 folks that have a clue here. I for one am happy we won a game against a struggling opponent. Hey you gotta start somewhere. wait are you saying you're one of the 2 or 3 that have a clue? Hmmmmm you sound like my mother in law. pay attention son, if you think there are only a handful of posters here that have a clue then you're the idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts