26CornerBlitz Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 2014 NFL Draft: Johnny Manziel criticism - fact or fiction? The quarterback class for the 2014 NFL Draft lacks an Andrew Luck-type of prospect, but it's also a much deeper group than last year, especially at the top with Central Florida's Blake Bortles, Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater and Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel all likely top 10 selections. But the most polarizing quarterback - and perhaps any prospect - this year is undoubtedly Johnny Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 CollegeFootball 24/7 @NFL_CFB 20h Charley Casserly says film review shows glaring flaw in Johnny Manziel's game: http://on.nfl.com/1hgt2qy This is linked in the post prior to yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) 2014 NFL Draft: Johnny Manziel criticism - fact or fiction? good write up. hes got a lot of talent, but a lot of serious question marks that cant be ignored in an honest evaluation. i have a hard time seeing how he succeeds long term, but wont say its impossible either - it will just take a nearly perfect city/coach/roster around him, as well as things in his personal life going well, to get over a lot of the initial hurdles. Edited February 14, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 good write up. hes got a lot of talent, but a lot of serious question marks that cant be ignored in an honest evaluation. i have a hard time seeing how he succeeds long term, but wont say its impossible either - it will just take a nearly perfect city/coach/roster around him to get over a lot of the initial hurdles. A receiver like Josh Gordon, a strong O-line anchored by Joe Thomas and a defense that won't make you feel like you have to score 30 points to win every game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 good write up. hes got a lot of talent, but a lot of serious question marks that cant be ignored in an honest evaluation. i have a hard time seeing how he succeeds long term, but wont say its impossible either - it will just take a nearly perfect city/coach/roster around him, as well as things in his personal life going well, to get over a lot of the initial hurdles. The LSU game spoke volumes for me when he faced NFL caliber defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) A receiver like Josh Gordon, a strong O-line anchored by Joe Thomas and a defense that won't make you feel like you have to score 30 points to win every game? kyle shanahan, an owner that seems to not understand hes running an nfl franchise, a WR one strike from a long suspension, and another thats tweeted his weed and fought security at an airport in the last month, and a center that anchors an OL that underachieved last year and he might be leaving, and no established RB... oh yea, and its cleveland (which could be a blessing or a curse for johnny football).... and they gave up 25+ points per game, so he will need to have some scores in the 30s. cleveland has a lot of question marks, and i think its a bit silly to paint them as a franchise that will get all the answers right. Edited February 14, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 A receiver like Josh Gordon, a strong O-line anchored by Joe Thomas and a defense that won't make you feel like you have to score 30 points to win every game? Won't it be the same defense that made the Bills offense, also with a rookie QB, often feel like they had to score 30 pts to win games? The Bills gave up over 24 pts/game. The Browns last yr gave up over 25 pts/game. I would assume it would somewhere in that realm again given it is the Browns players in the Bills scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 The LSU game spoke volumes for me when he faced NFL caliber defenders. What about the Bama game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 What about the Bama game? Bama got light up by the Oklahoma QB, who was whatever all year. Bad games happen. Honestly, I don't see hi mtranslating to the NFL but it will be 100% interesting. Case Keenum was a star in the same offense and we saw how he has done in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 What about the Bama game? Bama's defense was not great this year against good offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I still don't see him as a long term success in the NFL. There is no way I would use a top 10 pick on him, but he is going to go 4th at the latest I would guess. Then we will see. It's going to be fun watching that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 @SportsCenter Johnny Manziel says Texans should NOT pass on him with No. 1 pick. (via @HoustonChron) pic.twitter.com/pc12jftHGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Bama got light up by the Oklahoma QB, who was whatever all year. Bad games happen. Honestly, I don't see hi mtranslating to the NFL but it will be 100% interesting. Case Keenum was a star in the same offense and we saw how he has done in the NFL. Keenum and JM are nothing alike as QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 We'll see if he's serious about what he's saying...the words sure sound good: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/ “I was a kid who made some goofball decisions,” Manziel said. “That’s been part of my journey. Maybe it’s part of the whole Johnny Football deal that I’m trying to get away from. I feel like if I don’t put myself in any of those situations, then I can’t get blamed for it. If I’m not in the neighborhood, and I’m in the house, nothing can be said about me. . . ." “I want to own up to that. I don’t want to hear that, ‘Oh, anybody in his situation would have been doing the same thing.’ I’m 100 percent responsible for my actions. I made those goofball decisions knowingly. I got the consequences that come for it. Just like you make any decision in life, you have your pros and your cons for what’s going to happen. I live with that. I’ve tried to move on from it and tried distance myself as best as possible.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Johnny Foosball also mentioned having Frito's and Dorito's on his shoulder. It's obvious his mind isn't where it should be if he can't even put chips in his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Keenum and JM are nothing alike as QBs. Agreed. Keenum is bigger haha. But the fact that played in the same offense in which Keenum became the NCAA passing leader is valid. It's about as qb friendly of an offense as there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Johnny Manziel is going to be an absolute star. I'd trade up to get him. I know we won't, but I would. That's how strongly I feel about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Agreed. Keenum is bigger haha. But the fact that played in the same offense in which Keenum became the NCAA passing leader is valid. It's about as qb friendly of an offense as there is. Keenum didn't play in the best conference in the country which is a pretty big difference. I am not a JFF fan but that rationale is pretty awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Johnny Manziel is going to be an absolute star. I'd trade up to get him. I know we won't, but I would. That's how strongly I feel about him. Well at lest theres two of us. http://forums.twobil...et-off-the-pot/ Edited February 15, 2014 by Jim in Anchorage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Wimp! @EyeOnNFL Johnny Manziel won't be throwing at the NFL Combine: http://cbsprt.co/1eBPlPw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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