IDBillzFan Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 All these Conservative trolls just hate the plan because Obama did it. Wrong. We're actually glad it was Obama who did it. When the next 50M people lose their employee-provided health insurance, it's going to get ugly -- and that's saying something now that millennials hate him -- and everyone will remember it was Obama care that caused it, and progressive dolts like Obama will be relegated to the comments section of a DailyKos blog long before they're allowed to touch policy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) Exactly! Republicans like you don't want to do anything. But the B poster said the GOP had ideas and Ryan's is one And please tell me you are not stupid enough to consider going through giant plans line by line is something anyone would actually do here? Wait, no, I believe you are that stupid Exactly, which makes this all political. All these Conservative trolls just hate the plan because Obama did it. Don't see any of them complaining about Bush's Prescription Drug plan everybody like their horse to win, I guess. But they all essentially get us to the same place. If Romney repealed and signed the PCA into law right now, Democrats and ACA supporters would be tearing down the interwebs in outrage... it would actually have been fun to watch... I am getting tired of dicussing the healthcvare reform issue, the only thing that is going to work in the US in the most expensive, most convoluted boondoggle of a healthsystem that likely will not meet measruables of other first world countries.... I get to see it everyday, most people are so !@#$ing confused about how providers and hospitals work, what is actually in their insurance plans and what is covered and what is not.. and don't get me started on when they get their bills that doesn't even have a description of service on it.... I have little faith care and deliver will get that much better no matter what we pass... I guess call me pessimitic ** Out of curiosity, and be honest, did you hate Medicare Part D when Georgie passed it? I know my Democrat friends were... now it works, helps seniors and I don't think has been over budget (Although it was passed unfunded) Edited December 4, 2013 by B-Large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 ** Out of curiosity, and be honest, did you hate Medicare Part D when Georgie passed it? I know my Democrat friends were... now it works, helps seniors and I don't think has been over budget (Although it was passed unfunded) The part I criticized was how Bush lied about the cost to his own Republicans in congress by about a third of the actual cost. I was in no way against Seniors getting the drugs they needed. Yes, the unfunded part was a point I criticized, too and that all rolled into the unfunded war aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The part I criticized was how Bush lied about the cost to his own Republicans in congress by about a third of the actual cost. I was in no way against Seniors getting the drugs they needed. Yes, the unfunded part was a point I criticized, too and that all rolled into the unfunded war aspect. So Bush lied about the cost of Part D, but Obama simply wasn't clear enough when he said "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period."? Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 And please tell me you are not stupid enough to consider going through giant plans line by line is something anyone would actually do here? Wait, no, I believe you are that stupid Of course not. We elect people to Congress to do that for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Remember the laughable Obamacare/Youth Video "contest" that we found so hard to believe earlier this year ? We have a WINNER ! The White House announced a parody of the pop song “Price Tag” as the winner of its Health Young America video competition to convince young people to enroll in health plans through Obamacare’s exchange. Erin McDonald won for a video called “Forget About the Price Tag,” in which she emphasizes the importance of health care and encourages young people to not be intimidated by potentially high costs. “Don’t need a lot of money, to stay young and healthy,” she sings in the chorus; “We gotta invest to be the healthiest, you can’t put a price on life,” she adds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Remember the laughable Obamacare/Youth Video "contest" that we found so hard to believe earlier this year ? We have a WINNER ! The White House announced a parody of the pop song “Price Tag” as the winner of its Health Young America video competition to convince young people to enroll in health plans through Obamacare’s exchange. Erin McDonald won for a video called “Forget About the Price Tag,” in which she emphasizes the importance of health care and encourages young people to not be intimidated by potentially high costs. “Don’t need a lot of money, to stay young and healthy,” she sings in the chorus; “We gotta invest to be the healthiest, you can’t put a price on life,” she adds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ebFKQqhBS4 My tax dollars at work? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) My tax dollars at work? Seriously? Comments are disabled for this video. Gee I wonder why. Her next big hit will be a remake of this: Edited December 4, 2013 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 So Bush lied about the cost of Part D, but Obama simply wasn't clear enough when he said "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period."? Got it. Yup, politicians lie, that's why I got over it. Maybe you should take the lesson there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 You couldn’t make this stuff up. As the pernicious Obamacare sinkhole continues to expand, taking more and more Americans down with it, the White House had the nerve to tweet this this afternoon: The White House @WhiteHouse 6h Obama: "Christmas is no time for Congress to tell more than 1 million of these Americans that they’ll lose this insurance." #ABetterBargain Expand I suppose when you've reached peak spin, this sort of tone-deaf mendacity comes naturally. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Yup, politicians lie, that's why I got over it. Maybe you should take the lesson there. Upwards of 50M people are about to lose their health care insurance because Obama lied. You can count the number of people who trust him on the hand of a bad woodshop teacher. Guys like me are the least of your ideological worries. In the next twelve months, Obama and progressives in general are about to take it like Ned Beatty on a canoe trip in banjo territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Da-da-ding-ding-ding-ding Ding-ding-ding! Da-da-ding-ding-ding-ding Ding-ding-ding! Da-da-ding-ding-ding-ding Ding-ding-ding! Da-da-ding-ding-ding-ding Ding-ding-ding! Da-da-ding-ding-ding Da-da-ding-ding-ding Da-dingdadadaladadadaladaldaldadaladala... Weeeeeeeehhhh! Weeeeeeeeehhhhh! Weeeeeeeeehhhhh! Joe, do something stupid to make people think about something else. My azz is sore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Exactly! Republicans like you don't want to do anything. But the B poster said the GOP had ideas and Ryan's is one I'll skip the absurdity of your story line, and skip right to the funniest part. "Republicans like me"??? Source for me, please, the post where I've claimed to be Republican. Conversely, even the most minimal amount of search-fu would lead you to results of me stating the opposite, and harsh criticisms of every Republican President of the last 150 years. It must be quite odd living in a binary world. Please, if you would, tell me what your favorite color is; orange or brown And, after that to get back on topic, please outline the major similarities and differences that you've based you assertions on. Edited December 5, 2013 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Gee I wonder why. Her next big hit will be a remake of this: This one's better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=096hnKDw5tc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Hey Tom, you remember that obnoxious video you hated with the girl singing about it being Friday and time to hang with her friends? Remember how much you hated that video? Well, you may just hate this more. The $2000 winner of the HHS contest to encourage young people to buy Obamacare. You're gonna want something to puke in near your desk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpRNAkG-Nx0&feature=share&list=PL07DZg-rgKPbiycdGRbQiMRfNJdd-w5vq&index=3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Well, you may just hate this more. The $2000 winner of the HHS contest to encourage young people to buy Obamacare. You're gonna want something to puke in near your desk. if they think that video will encourage young people to buy anything at all, then it just shows that HHS knows as much about what young people like as they know about what we all supposedly need. besides, you need soul-stirring, inspirational music for effective propaganda to work, not insipid lameness like that. I did throw up, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Drafting Docs : Look for doctors to be conscripted to treat Medicare and Medicaid patients. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) No. It is you, crazy nobody dude vs. against Krugman. You are the one that needs to STFU... You are a nobody. A loser. So, you still haven't showed how this is black box thinking, and it's been a week. Didn't think you had it in you. Clearly you don't. Let me try to help you out some more: does fire exist in wood? I mean, all you have to do is rub sticks together(input), and, if you rub hard enough, you break the barrier in the wood that contains the fire(black box)...and the fire gets let out(output), right? That's also black box thinking. Observing the inputs and outputs to a system can help us, but only a fool pretends that they define the system. You trying to attack me personally, and failing hilariously, is no substitute for proving that this isn't classic black box thinking. All this proves? You're lucky you come to PPP. See, left to your own...devices...you don't know "black box" when you see it . Without PPP, you were doomed to miss the craptastic tactics Krugman uses here, or someone on the right might use in the future, for the rest of your life. Luckily for you, as a fellow Bills fan, I refuse to let you continue through life like that...without correction. I am brimming with compassion. If I really hated you, I'd let you go on all stupid, so that the next guy could really light you up. Funny how with anything, people feel they are being thrown off the cliff and that things are broken. Such is life and such is life especially w/change. People hate change. Especially, if that change is worse off for some. Yet, we ALL keep looking for the perfect solution. Except some of us get paid to deliver solutions. Sometimes they are perfect, sometimes they are intentionally mediocre, because we know things are changing soon. It all depends on the situation. You want perfect, you go to the people that do that, and F'ing pay them. But, even that's not the real story here: again, those of use who get paid to do this, understand that it doesn't matter how good we are, if the client is F'ing around with the requirements, or, gives us a jacked up set of requirements and expects us to create a not-jacked-up design from them. Sorry sir. I have been a Registered Nurse from 1979 I have more experience with grieving families and the care delivery problems than most of the posters on the board.............combined. Change was needed. Pointing out that this "affordable" plan is garbage and will make matters worse is not your short-sighted "fear of change" It is experience. it is knowledge. it is common sense............................. . RNs are the only way what I do has any chance of working. #2 on that list is CNAs, housekeepers, techs, etc. Edited December 5, 2013 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I'll skip the absurdity of your story line, and skip right to the funniest part. "Republicans like me"??? Source for me, please, the post where I've claimed to be Republican. Conversely, even the most minimal amount of search-fu would lead you to results of me stating the opposite, and harsh criticisms of every Republican President of the last 150 years. It must be quite odd living in a binary world. Please, if you would, tell me what your favorite color is; orange or brown And, after that to get back on topic, please outline the major similarities and differences that you've based you assertions on. Ok, anti-Obamacare fanatics like you. Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Ok, anti-Obamacare fanatics like you. Better? Yes, it's "fanatic" to call things what they are. And, it's "racist" to criticize a man for the content of his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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