Clippers of Nfl Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 Really ? Disagree. He's been playing football at a high level since forever. A week or two means nothing. Negative. College to Nfl is night and day difference. Night and day. So he has not been playing at a high level since forever. We're talking about his knees. Not his ring finger or his pinky. Am i the only guy that wants to sit his @ for just one week? 1 week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 You may be right. But up until the last few years, it was pretty normal for rookies to start midway the season. EVEN WHEN HEALTHY. But then Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco and RGIII and Luck and Wilson came onto the scene. You're a rookie? Good for you, now strap on that helmet and get in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I'm pretty sure EJ will start, I think this is just Marrone keeping people (ie, Pats*) in the dark. If not, whatever. Tuel can just launch it every play and get 15 pass interference calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 I'm pretty sure EJ will start, I think this is just Marrone keeping people (ie, Pats*) in the dark. If not, whatever. Tuel can just launch it every play and get 15 pass interference calls. I was upset that he didnt do that on saturday. Run after run after run... What a boring game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Show this article to Tuel: http://www.boston.co...ots_set_to.html Give him the start and pull him if he proves the writer correct. That was infuriating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanGuzman Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 100% healthy = 100% starting.... <100% healthy = 100% sit-em, until he reaches 100% healthy.. Agree with this. Everyone saw what happened with Robert Griffen last year, playing RG3 on a wonky knee in the playoffs let him to re-injured his knee (i think acl and lcl tear). Marrone should make sure Manuel is healthy and that means watching him practice full-go the week leading up the patriots matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Negative. College to Nfl is night and day difference. Night and day. So he has not been playing at a high level since forever. We're talking about his knees. Not his ring finger or his pinky. Am i the only guy that wants to sit his @ for just one week? 1 week Do you want to sit him because of: 1) It would be a health risk to rush back? I don't think this is remotely the case, but we don't have enough info. If that is your reason, fine. 2) You think there is another QB who is more prepared to win that game? (clearly not because they are better, so the option would be Tuel because he has been practicing). I don't think this is the case if the knee is okay and he practices leading up to the game, and the last couple weeks are close to meaningless in giving Tuel an advantage in actual chance to beat the Patriots. 3) You think that rookie QBs need to be eased in and avoid becoming Tim Couch? I think the Luck/Newton/Wilson/million others logic disagrees with you and Kurt Warner pretty heavily here, and he is a big boy who won't fold if he can't beat New England. Also a New England team that has been very mediocre on defense and against the pass and in terms of sacking the QB in recent years. If his knee is at a point where he can outperform Tuel and not be an unusual risk in re-injuring it then he plays. This threshold is lower than "100%" and doesn't involve him practicing later this week or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 If I'm Marrone and the Bills team leaders I'm putting a target on Wilfork's back and staying in the refs' ears all game about this a**hole. We all know what he likes to do to QB's knees. Wood will keep him at bay. He takes that stuff personally. When he spoke about EJ and Kolb being out he mention both injuries happened while they were out of the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I agree. Look let tuel and the D go week one, get EJ ready for Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 If he only has 1 week to prepare against the Pats, do we really need to rush him back? 1 week is how long you take to prepare for an opponent in the NFL. If he's not really back physically, I'd rest him of course. I'm worried about his body getting hurt, and him being able to practice with the team leading up to the game, not him being mentally unprepared or anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 I agree. Look let tuel and the D go week one, get EJ ready for Carolina It took 2 pages, but finally at least someone agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Yeah, no. Look, if EJ isn't ready, let's sit this one back, take Game One in the teeth and come out swinging for game two. But if EJ is healthy, if the reports of "two weeks with physical therapy and he's ready with a week to practice" are true, then you start him Some dark part of me is hoping that Tuel is getting the tentative nod because they expect EJ to be back but want NE to expect nothing. It took 2 pages, but finally at least someone agrees with me. Mostly because most people think it's a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfan62 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 If he only has 1 week to prepare against the Pats, do we really need to rush him back? Thanks, I said just about the same thing right after it was announced that he would not be able to play or practice for the rest of the preseason. There is really not much sense in starting a rookie in his first NFL game against our most feared opponent with no time to prepare for them. Show this article to Tuel: http://www.boston.co...ots_set_to.html Give him the start and pull him if he proves the writer correct. They ought to show it to the whole team. Pin it up somewhere in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I was upset that he didnt do that on saturday. Run after run after run... What a boring game. They were protecting him against injury. Keeping it to short passes with short drop backs or running the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 If he only has 1 week to prepare against the Pats, do we really need to rush him back? What rush? If he's healthy he's healthy. He's had a gazillion reps since May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 He clearly gives us the best chance to win, so he plays if he's healthy. Seems so obvious and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Tuel will get his chance. If EJ runs as much as he's inclined to, he WILL get hurt eventually. Count me among those curious to see what Tuel can do, with the caveat that I would like to see it happen after he's had some more seasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Tuel will get his chance. If EJ runs as much as he's inclined to, he WILL get hurt eventually. Count me among those curious to see what Tuel can do, with the caveat that I would like to see it happen after he's had some more seasoning. Out of curiosity, how much is that? He scrambled twice against Indy and once or twice (that I recall) against Minny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 If he only has 1 week to prepare against the Pats, do we really need to rush him back? My decision chart which may be different than Morrone's If EJ Manuel is cleared to practice on or before 9/2/2013 he starts. If Tuel is healthy and EJ Manuel is cleared to play after 9/2/2013 then Tuel starts. Have you seen what Rookie QBs look like against a Bellicheat defense? This is when they don't have 5 months to prepare for the rookie QB. What do you think a rookie QB will look like with 2 days of practice against on a Pats team that has little change in the Defensive starters? Yeah so, throw Tuel into the fire he has 3 weeks to prepare unless EJ can get atleast 1 solid week of practice prior to the game. If Tuel gets injured you all will be begging for him to start over Matt "Hot Tubbin' It" Linehert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I'm sure Luck wasn't 100% every week last season behind the Colts' awful o-line. Playing while a little bit dinged up is just something EJ and most QBs will have to learn to do. No reason to sit him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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