SWVABillsFan Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Top 10 Value Picks (Team-Pick#-Pos-Name-Ranked-Positive Value) Top 10 Texans/#95/DE-Sam Montgomery/54th/+41 Chargers/#76/WR - Keenan Allen/47th/+29 Giants/#81/DE - Demontre Moore/52nd/+29 Saints/#75/OT - Terron Armstead/48th/+27 Dolphins/#54/CB - Jamar Taylor/28th/+26 Packers/#61/RB - Eddie Lacy/36th/+25 Raiders/#42/OT - Menelik Watson/22nd/+20 Bengals/#53/DE - Margus Hunt/34th/+19 Jets/#39/QB - Geno Smith/21st/+18 Ravens/#56/ILB - Arthur Brown/42nd/+18 Top 10 Reach Picks (Team-Pick#-Pos-Name-Ranked-Reach) Top 10 Patriots/#91/S - Duron Harmon/413th/-322 Chiefs/#96/RB - Knile Davis/232nd/-136 Broncos/#90/CB - Kayvon Webster/224th/-134 Dolphins/#93/CB - Will Davis/157th/-64 Seahawks/#87/DT - Jordan Hill/149th/-62 Patriots/#59/WR - Aaron Dobson/117th/-58 Cowboys/#47/TE - Gavin Escobar/89th/-42 Rams/#71/FS - T.J. McDonald/112th/-41 Bills/#46/ILB - Kiko Alonso/86th/-40 Browns/#68/CB - Leon McFadden/107th/-39 Other Bills Notables #16/QB - EJ Manuel/40th/-24 #78/WR - Marquise Goodwin/93rd/-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Top 10 Value Picks (Team-Pick#-Pos-Name-Ranked-Positive Value) Top 10 Texans/#95/DE-Sam Montgomery/54th/+41 Chargers/#76/WR - Keenan Allen/47th/+29 Giants/#81/DE - Demontre Moore/52nd/+29 Saints/#75/OT - Terron Armstead/48th/+27 Dolphins/#54/CB - Jamar Taylor/28th/+26 Packers/#61/RB - Eddie Lacy/36th/+25 Raiders/#42/OT - Menelik Watson/22nd/+20 Bengals/#53/DE - Margus Hunt/34th/+19 Jets/#39/QB - Geno Smith/21st/+18 Ravens/#56/ILB - Arthur Brown/42nd/+18 Top 10 Reach Picks (Team-Pick#-Pos-Name-Ranked-Reach) Top 10 Patriots/#91/S - Duron Harmon/413th/-322 Chiefs/#96/RB - Knile Davis/232nd/-136 Broncos/#90/CB - Kayvon Webster/224th/-134 Dolphins/#93/CB - Will Davis/157th/-64 Seahawks/#87/DT - Jordan Hill/149th/-62 Patriots/#59/WR - Aaron Dobson/117th/-58 Cowboys/#47/TE - Gavin Escobar/89th/-42 Rams/#71/FS - T.J. McDonald/112th/-41 Bills/#46/ILB - Kiko Alonso/86th/-40 Browns/#68/CB - Leon McFadden/107th/-39 Other Bills Notables #16/QB - EJ Manuel/40th/-24 #78/WR - Marquise Goodwin/93rd/-15 It means Belisuck is a genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 It means Belisuck is a genius! right?!? But our picks are horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 right?!? But our picks are horrible. Based on an arbitrary list by some pundit who thought Nassib was going to be the first QB taken. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Top 10 Value Picks (Team-Pick#-Pos-Name-Ranked-Positive Value) Top 10 Texans/#95/DE-Sam Montgomery/54th/+41 Chargers/#76/WR - Keenan Allen/47th/+29 Giants/#81/DE - Demontre Moore/52nd/+29 Saints/#75/OT - Terron Armstead/48th/+27 Dolphins/#54/CB - Jamar Taylor/28th/+26 Packers/#61/RB - Eddie Lacy/36th/+25 Raiders/#42/OT - Menelik Watson/22nd/+20 Bengals/#53/DE - Margus Hunt/34th/+19 Jets/#39/QB - Geno Smith/21st/+18 Ravens/#56/ILB - Arthur Brown/42nd/+18 Top 10 Reach Picks (Team-Pick#-Pos-Name-Ranked-Reach) Top 10 Patriots/#91/S - Duron Harmon/413th/-322 Chiefs/#96/RB - Knile Davis/232nd/-136 Broncos/#90/CB - Kayvon Webster/224th/-134 Dolphins/#93/CB - Will Davis/157th/-64 Seahawks/#87/DT - Jordan Hill/149th/-62 Patriots/#59/WR - Aaron Dobson/117th/-58 Cowboys/#47/TE - Gavin Escobar/89th/-42 Rams/#71/FS - T.J. McDonald/112th/-41 Bills/#46/ILB - Kiko Alonso/86th/-40 Browns/#68/CB - Leon McFadden/107th/-39 Other Bills Notables #16/QB - EJ Manuel/40th/-24 #78/WR - Marquise Goodwin/93rd/-15 Source? I'd like to evaluate the credibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Notice that half of that "reach" list are defensive backs. Probably because it's harder to get film on those guys since cameras aren't watching them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Notice that half of that "reach" list are defensive backs. Probably because it's harder to get film on those guys since cameras aren't watching them. Real coaches film shows the entire field (or most of it) so you can see what everyone is doing. What people watch on YouTube isn't close to what actual film is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Proud Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 This is how stupid CBS is, case closed. Per their own website: He has an extremely strong leg and ended his workout by kicking a 50-yard field goal. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com 41.35% touchback percentage in 2012. Their draft analysis of Hopkins: "The special teams run continues! Hopkins is an accurate kicker whose leg strength is very iffy for kickoffs, and who could have trouble punching the ball through Buffalo's swirling winds." So either their draft analyst is a moron or Gil Brandt is a liar. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664151/dustin-hopkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Patriots.... -322 hehehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 This is how stupid CBS is, case closed. Per their own website: He has an extremely strong leg and ended his workout by kicking a 50-yard field goal. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com 41.35% touchback percentage in 2012. Their draft analysis of Hopkins: "The special teams run continues! Hopkins is an accurate kicker whose leg strength is very iffy for kickoffs, and who could have trouble punching the ball through Buffalo's swirling winds." So either their draft analyst is a moron or Gil Brandt is a liar. http://www.cbssports.../dustin-hopkins I am starting to suspect draft grades for lesser players are generated at random by a computer jumbling cliches. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Based on an arbitrary list by some pundit who thought Nassib was going to be the first QB taken. PTR So true! ESPN gave us an F grade for selecting EJ at number 16, but would have no doubt given us an A had we chosen either of 3 QBs no one else wanted until the 3rd or 4th rounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Patriots.... -322 hehehe. Not only that, the guy was named after paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Listening to Gil Brandt on Sirius I would say he far from amoron . But. He is getting up there in years. Reminds me of Van Millet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Proud Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 (edited) Listening to Gil Brandt on Sirius I would say he far from amoron . But. He is getting up there in years. Reminds me of Van Millet. I dont think he's a liar either. As PTR said, its the draft analysis cliche robot, it was probably programmed by a moron! Edited April 27, 2013 by Buffalo Proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I 90 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Patriots.... -322 hehehe. If Belichick had his way Rutgers would have more players picked than Alabama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Of the 40 or so Bills drafts i've observed this is the first time im not optomistic. Very confused and disappointed. I hope im wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 (edited) Of the 40 or so Bills drafts i've observed this is the first time im not optomistic. Very confused and disappointed. I hope im wrong Considering how most of those 40 drafts turned out, this might be cause for optimism. As with every draft, we're at least 2-3 years from being able to make a reasonable assessment. Discussing 'value' and 'reach' is silly, and downright absurd when discussing day 3 picks. Edited April 27, 2013 by KD in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Considering how most of those 40 drafts turned out, this might be cause for optimism. As with every draft, we're at least 2-3 years from being able to make a reasonable assessment. Discussing 'value' and 'reach' is silly, and downright absurd when discussing day 3 picks. Of course it's silly. These reach/value assessments are based on rankings made by people who don't actually scout and coach football players for living, but rather play one on an Internet web site! Edited April 28, 2013 by BuffaloBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Really, once the draft is over, how much does it matter when a player was picked. You should rate the draft based on the sum of who was picked and how they help your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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