Hotpockets28 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Usc offensiveline was horric to watch...why did you think 75% of there passing plays were some sort of screen or hitch plays???? If it wasnt for those type of plays barkley wouldnt be standing right now hahaha poor kid got destroyed hit after hit after hit almost everytime ge had to take a 3 to 5 step dropback......barkley will be a pro bowl type QB in the nfl in the right offense....in a west coast offense....Exactly the offense Nathaniel hackett will be running...just to much sense not to draft barkley at #8 if he even makes it by cleveland let alone cardinals...which I highly doubt Edited February 22, 2013 by Hotpockets28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Rd1 - Barkley Rd2 - Barkley's college teammate - Woods Would be interesting. I would rather see Rd 1 - Geno Smith Rd 3 - Geno's high school & college teammate -- Stedmon Bailey Rd 2 - Best defensive player we can get -- perferably a LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Rd1 - Barkley Rd2 - Barkley's college teammate - Woods Would be interesting. It would be. I'd be cool with it. Love this kids talent. He's not Marquise Lee, but he's dam good IMO. Usc offensiveline was horric to watch...why did you think 75% of there passing plays were some sort of screen or hitch plays???? If it wasnt for those type of plays barkley wouldnt be standing right now hahaha poor kid got destroyed hit after hit after hit almost everytime ge had to take a 3 to 5 step dropback......barkley will be a pro bowl type QB in the nfl in the right offense....in a west coast offense....Exactly the offense Nathaniel hackett will be running...just to much sense not to draft barkley at #8 if he even makes it by cleveland let alone cardinals...which I highly doubt I think he's the pick if he's available. I think geno will be gone. Too bad there's so many people on here that can't stand the thought of it because he's from California. It's ridiculous. Going into the season, he was the consensus #1 pick. Some thought he might be better than Luck (I'm not one of them). He goes into his senior season with high hopes that fizzed due to piss poor Oline play. If you didn't watch any USC games and don't think Barkley is good because of what some people are saying or by looking at his stat line, you should try and watch how bad the USC Oline was this year. They were horrid. Edited February 22, 2013 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 It would be. I'd be cool with it. Love this kids talent. He's not Marquise Lee, but he's dam good IMO. I think he's the pick if he's available. I think geno will be gone. Too bad there's so many people on here that can't stand the thought of it because he's from California. It's ridiculous. Going into the season, he was the consensus #1 pick. Some thought he might be better than Luck (I'm not one of them). He goes into his senior season with high hopes that fizzed due to piss poor Oline play. If you didn't watch any USC games and don't think Barkley is good because of what some people are saying or by looking at his stat line, you should try and watch how bad the USC Oline was this year. They were horrid. its also the shoulder issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotpockets28 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Matt barkley coming into the 2012 season was by far the best Qb in the nation and projected as a ""franchise prospect"" now due to USC godawful offensiveline and horrid type defense.hes no longer looked as a "franchise type Qb..they lose games they were projected to win and suddenly its all barkleys fault....good god I hate the media and scouts...saying barkley had a bad season is stupid...3,000+ yards 36 tds 15 ints is not a bad season..its not his fault he was getting smashed everytime he had to drop back...its not his fault he leads the offense to 30+ points but defense allows 40 and they lose the game...its not his fault he has a shoulder injury...i mean who the hell will be 100% after playing with a Oline like that? Barkley is by far the most polished and ready to start Qb in this draft...point blank period end of story whoever doesnt think so are clueless Edited February 22, 2013 by Hotpockets28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Matt barkley coming into the 2012 season was by far the best Qb in the nation and projected as a ""franchise prospect"" now due to USC godawful offensiveline and horrid type defense.hes no longer looked as a "franchise type Qb..they lose games they were projected to win and suddenly its all barkleys fault....good god I hate the media and scouts...saying barkley had a bad season is stupid...3,000+ yards 36 tds 15 ints is not a bad season..its not his fault he was getting smashed everytime he had to drop back...its not his fault he leads the offense to 30+ points but defense allows 40 and they lose the game...its not his fault he has a shoulder injury...i mean who the hell will be 100% after playing with a Oline like that? Barkley is by far the most polished and ready to start Qb in this draft...point blank period end of story whoever doesnt think so are clueless enough kid. You obviously watch a TON of USC. You might be Barkleys girlfriend which would justify your stroked eat with him. Again, you've managed to hijack a thread with Barkley talk when it was originally about a WR. As far as "most polished" and "ready to start in the NFL" QB in the draft goes,any people said that about Sanchez, Palmer, Lienert, and Rob Johnson too. Yet all of these QBs (with the exception for Palmer but only barely) have been extremely dreadful and some of the biggest busts in draft history. I'm not saying you won't be right. He might be better than the rest in this draft class, but for you to claim it like its a fact, is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Anyone else think the questions for woods were in part about Barkley. Edited February 23, 2013 by frogger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Anyone else think the questions for woods were in part about Barkley. yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) It sounds to me that Harbaugh knew this kid from college and that's why he didn't ask many questions. As for why we asked so many? Maybe that's the norm and SF and Oak look like a bunch of idiots. Maybe we were doubling our efforts with questions pertaining to his QB while at USC. Who knows, there's plenty of different scenarios out of this. I think we asked the right questions. there have been articles for years about the problems of rookie wrs. They take too long to learn the playbook. They have to be smart. They have to read the defense, adjust routes, learn the audibles, etc. If you're gonna draft a rookie wr, then draft the smartest one, other things roughly equal. It was Marv Levy who said of the draft, something along the lines of "other things being equal, take the smarter player, because he will get better faster." Edited February 23, 2013 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 From the NFL Combine blog Linky: http://profootball.s.../2/1268712.html Anyone know anything about this kid? Looked at his stats, and he caught 111 passes in 2011 and 76 last year. Impressive. Tim- wish his teammate Marquis Lee was coming out, trust when he does he will be a top 5 pick. Wasn't that impressed with Wood's kind of like his QB. He's good but I don't see him as a #1 NFL WR. more of a #2 or #3. he's good after the catch, but unlike his cohort Marquis Lee, he's never really blown me away with his ability to consistently beat coverage on intermediate & deep routes I agree, Barkley had arguably a better year than Luck last year had he come out it would have been hard for Washington to blow their load on RG3. His OL was horrific, USc has playmker after playmaker but Barkley was a sitting duck. He could make every thorw but the shoulder injury worries me. Get friggin real I wish he would have come out then we could have gotten Tannehill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 wish his teammate Marquis Lee was coming out, trust when he does he will be a top 5 pick. Wasn't that impressed with Wood's kind of like his QB. Get friggin real Matt Barkley 2011 Southern California Pac-12 JR QB 308 446 69.1 3528 7.9 9.0 39 7 161.2 Andrew Luck 2011 Stanford Pac-12 SR QB 288 404 71.3 3517 8.7 9.4 37 10 169.7 While Luck is without a doubt a better QB than Barkley, 2011 was pretty dam close statistically. Not that stats, determine who's better, but he had a comparative year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotpockets28 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Barkley in 2011 was a BEAST......barkley will be a dammmm good QB in the pros whoever doesnt think so just because he is a ""USC" prospect or that he doesnt have enough arm strength for buffalo weather are clueless....has all the tools you need to be a very good qb...elite? Who knows only time will tell Edited February 23, 2013 by Hotpockets28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Matt Barkley 2011 Southern California Pac-12 JR QB 308 446 69.1 3528 7.9 9.0 39 7 161.2 Andrew Luck 2011 Stanford Pac-12 SR QB 288 404 71.3 3517 8.7 9.4 37 10 169.7 While Luck is without a doubt a better QB than Barkley, 2011 was pretty dam close statistically. Not that stats, determine who's better, but he had a comparative year. Thank you for the boost of common sense. I never said he was better or would be a better pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 He would be the best WR on our team. He has much more speed than Stevie and he may be almost as good of a route runner. He is a 15-25th pick guy so it is unlikley he is on the Bills after the draft. Would love for him to be around at #41 but don't see it happnening unless there is some ridiculous run on overrated QB's in the first round like we saw in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Stay clear of any USC offensive player. Lendale White, Reggie Bush, Mike Williams, Matt Leinart, Carson Palmer, Mark Sanchez, Dwayne Jarrett, Steve Smith, how are ya'll doin? He would be the best WR on our team. He has much more speed than Stevie and he may be almost as good of a route runner. He is a 15-25th pick guy so it is unlikley he is on the Bills after the draft. Would love for him to be around at #41 but don't see it happnening unless there is some ridiculous run on overrated QB's in the first round like we saw in 2011. Most assinine comment. Stevie is one of the best route running WRs in the league. Woods hasn't shown jack squat in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I know nothing about woods, but I hate drafting receivers. With few exceptions, these guys take 3-4 years to be productive. I'd rather just grab receivers in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Matt Barkley 2011 Southern California Pac-12 JR QB 308 446 69.1 3528 7.9 9.0 39 7 161.2 Andrew Luck 2011 Stanford Pac-12 SR QB 288 404 71.3 3517 8.7 9.4 37 10 169.7 While Luck is without a doubt a better QB than Barkley, 2011 was pretty dam close statistically. Not that stats, determine who's better, but he had a comparative year. Brady Quinn 2006 Notre Dame Ind SR QB 289 467 61.9 3426 7.3 8.2 37 7 146.7 Andrew Luck 2011 Stanford Pac-12 SR QB 288 404 71.3 3517 8.7 9.4 37 10 169.7 College stats don't mean squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Brady Quinn 2006 Notre Dame Ind SR QB 289 467 61.9 3426 7.3 8.2 37 7 146.7 Andrew Luck 2011 Stanford Pac-12 SR QB 288 404 71.3 3517 8.7 9.4 37 10 169.7 College stats don't mean squat. It was in reference to a statement saying 'get friggin real" regarding some people thinking Barkley had a better year than luck in 2011. I heard plenty of analysts say Barkley had a chance to win the heisman. He received 11 1st place votes. Some people did believe Barkley had a better year. He's nowhere near as good as luck IMO, but in 2011, he was dam close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Brady Quinn 2006 Notre Dame Ind SR QB 289 467 61.9 3426 7.3 8.2 37 7 146.7 Andrew Luck 2011 Stanford Pac-12 SR QB 288 404 71.3 3517 8.7 9.4 37 10 169.7 College stats don't mean squat. Maybe we should get this Brady Quinn guy ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotpockets28 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I say bills draft woods if hes there at #41 but I highly doubt woods would drop that far....yes I know bills need a BIGtarget....they can draft another Wr in the third maybe Da'rick rogers good size first round talent..only downside is the off the field issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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