Wayne Fontes Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 "if that cancer midget wasn't on the team"? the one that led the bills to the playoffs? :bag: Flutie had his moments, but once the novety wore off, teams had no problem defensing him. You forget how stout the defense was in 99, one that might have gotten the Bills over the SB hump if not for Homerun throwback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I wonder what would have happened if he hadn't been on our team and Flutie was allowed to start. failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 My buddy saw him walking across the street in solana beach and yell his name, and he froze ... and then injured his neck when he turned to look at who was calling to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Pretty much what happened. Oh I'm sorry...unicorns would fart cotton candy. Everyone thinks we would have won the Titans game but DF lost his playoff start in '99 against the Dolphins, not that anyone remembers. PTR So should have the Falcons benched Matt Ryan because he lost a few playoff games. I don't follow your logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 He had a 10 cent head when he played because he kept running when he knew his body couldn't take the pounding. He also had a maddening penchant for running out of bounds behind the LOS, instead of throwing the ball away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 He had a 10 cent head when he played because he kept running when he knew his body couldn't take the pounding. He also had a maddening penchant for running out of bounds behind the LOS, instead of throwing the ball away. Yes. I remember that little feature to his game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Rob Johnson was the closest thing the Bills have had to a QB of the future since Kelly retired He just never took that next step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Rob Johnson was the closest thing the Bills have had to a QB of the future since Kelly retired He just never took that next step The next step meaning the first step, AFAIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hater Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Doug Flutie was Good, Rob Johnson was Terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlearm Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Bucs were fooled too. When they signed him as a backup and he actually had to play, he was horrible. Start of our current woes, when he was retained over Flutie. Always looked good in camp though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 i love how the board blames the player (Johnson, Whitner) for being drafted/traded for and signing the contracts. Like the player should have walked away . . .no, no I can't sign that. You should be playing Flutie . . or no, no . . .i can't sign. . . you shouild have drafted Ngata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKickIsGood Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I will admit I bought a #11 Rob Johnson jersey when we traded for him. I was sold that he was the next great Bill QB. I have never been so disappointed by a Buffalo Bill. He was so damn fragile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Bucs were fooled too. When they signed him as a backup and he actually had to play, he was horrible. Start of our current woes, when he was retained over Flutie. Always looked good in camp though. I dunno...I believe he was 2-0 as a starter for the Bucs. He played more the role of "game manager", but they did win. Undoubtedly, the Bills experienced more success those years with Flutie starting, but I think the Bills gave up on Flutie at the right time... he really wasn't very good most of his final season in Buffalo. "Choosing" RJ over Flutie was really a financial decision as much as one based on talent. If they had kept Flutie, I seriously doubt things would be much different than they are now. They realized Flutie wasn't taking them any further, and gambled that Johnson, as the undisputed starter, might be able to elevate his game...he did show flashes...the Bills would have taken a big cap hit cutting RJ that year...not so much in the final year of his deal. Edited January 31, 2013 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 As the GR guys wasted airtime on some trivia game, I checked out a podcast on WHLD. Interesting survey of topics, Johnson seems like a good dude and seems to have more than the 10 cent head he displayed on the Bills. He talks about the new breed of read option Qbs and how he wasn't built to take the punishment that scamblers/options get (mentions how playing with Beuerlein and Flutie led him to leave the pocket more than his body could withstand). I can only wonder what the Bills fortunes would have been if he wouldl have stayed healthy, and the cancer midget wasn't on the team. http://www.swing1270...d=582&is_corp=0 I'll try hard to over look the insult to cancer victims and little people . . . but you really showed your IQ deficiency when you some how came to the convoluted logic to think that Rob Johnson was a better QB for the Buffalo Bills than Doug Flutie . . . further evidence that there should be a driving text for posting on TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 RJ was 1-3 in his first 4 games. Flutie was 4-0 in his first 4 games. Flutie led the team to the playoffs in 99 and should have started, period. How would you feel if you did really good at your job but your boss told you I get all of your paychecks? That's the closest analogy that sums up this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Rob Johnson and JP Losman are just not intelligent. It takes brains to play QB. Maybe there is a football IQ. These guys didn't have that either. There is a reason they got sacked so much. They could not read defenses. It is the same reason Vick and other mobile QB's get sacked. They can't read defenses quickly and move from read to read to read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 i love how the board blames the player (Johnson, Whitner) for being drafted/traded for and signing the contracts. Like the player should have walked away . . .no, no I can't sign that. You should be playing Flutie . . or no, no . . .i can't sign. . . you shouild have drafted Ngata. Yes, there is that, and the growing phenomenon amongst Bills fans to declare draft picks as busts...everyone wants to be the first one to claim it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsp08 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 As the GR guys wasted airtime on some trivia game, I checked out a podcast on WHLD. Interesting survey of topics, Johnson seems like a good dude and seems to have more than the 10 cent head he displayed on the Bills. He talks about the new breed of read option Qbs and how he wasn't built to take the punishment that scamblers/options get (mentions how playing with Beuerlein and Flutie led him to leave the pocket more than his body could withstand). I can only wonder what the Bills fortunes would have been if he wouldl have stayed healthy, and the cancer midget wasn't on the team. http://www.swing1270...d=582&is_corp=0 how was Flutie a cancer? Rob Johnson was given status with the Bills without proving anything while Doug worked for everything. It was Flutie's team that last went to the playoffs and we wouldn't be talking about the Music City Miracle if he was allowed to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Pretty much what happened. Oh I'm sorry...unicorns would fart cotton candy. Everyone thinks we would have won the Titans game but DF lost his playoff start in '99 against the Dolphins, not that anyone remembers. PTR You're kidding me. Flutie v. the Dolphins: 90.05 rating against a defense that was 6th in passing defense, 3rd in overall D, and first overall in points allowed. Johnson v. the Titans: 64.8 rating against a defense that was 25th overall in passing defense, 17th overall in D, and 15th overall in points. Seriously -- come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 how was Flutie a cancer? Rob Johnson was given status with the Bills without proving anything while Doug worked for everything. It was Flutie's team that last went to the playoffs and we wouldn't be talking about the Music City Miracle if he was allowed to start. You Flutopians still kill me...after all these years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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