Webster Guy Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Hey I understand every NFL receiver drops balls now and then. Some of them slump and drop multiple balls in the same game. TJ Graham took that to a new level today though, and embarassed Nix for burning a 3rd rounder (and a 7th to move up those few spots to get this chump). Maybe TJ runs a great 40, but his game speed is average and his hands are stone. He struggled in camp to pick up the playbook, cost us the NE game with that blown route, and on top of the fact that he dropped seemingly everything today, he ran probably the worst Go Route I've ever seen down the left sideline in man coverage. Fitz threw it as far as he could and the pass would have been right on the money if TJ knew how to run this route like a professional. He slowed down halfway into the route and started this amateur hand control battle with the corner and the pass dropped about 10 feet in front of him exactly where he should have been. For the 69th overall pick in last year's draft, I don't know boys. He's NOT a field stretcher or a great route runner or sure handed.. I'd rather see Easley in there, he can't be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 He was horrible. We traded up to draft a WR in the 3rd round and our hole at WR is now deeper. I watch other games and drool over guys like AJ Green, Brandon Lloyd, and Sidney Rice. Sidney Rice and Brandon Lloyd were picked up by their teams in the off season. Why can't we get someone like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 He should have stayed in track because he has no hands. Maybe we can bring back Jauron to convert him to corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 He was horrible. We traded up to draft a WR in the 3rd round and our hole at WR is now deeper. I watch other games and drool over guys like AJ Green, Brandon Lloyd, and Sidney Rice. Sidney Rice and Brandon Lloyd were picked up by their teams in the off season. Why can't we get someone like that? whats comical to me is that the FO and coaching staff has either said we are OK at WR or that our WRs are not big and physical enough. Yet the one WR they took last year, that they traded up to get is none of those things. Horrible hands, small, shifty. Nothing even close to a big physical WR that can over power CBs and go up for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 whats comical to me is that the FO and coaching staff has either said we are OK at WR or that our WRs are not big and physical enough. Yet the one WR they took last year, that they traded up to get is none of those things. Horrible hands, small, shifty. Nothing even close to a big physical WR that can over power CBs and go up for the ball. What's comical to me is that Coach Gaily insists on running a pass happy offense with a mediocre QB and these spares at WR. Meanwhile we have quality RBs that are under utilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Too soon to give up on him...WR and DT are the hardest positions to do well early in their careers...That said we need a true number 1 becasue Stevie is a great #2 maybe the best in the league, but they need a Calvin Johnson, a Andre Johnson, a guy who is open and can make a play when he is not open like Nix has been fond of saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 He didn't have a great game today...but I think he has shown some signs that he has some game...and all those "drops" were not of the "great pass, no hands"variety... it happens... just another miserable performance all the way around from this team. What's comical to me is that Coach Gaily insists on running a pass happy offense with a mediocre QB and these spares at WR. Meanwhile we have quality RBs that are under utilized. This x 1billion! I honestly think, with a competent coach, this team, with the same talent, could be 8-6 or 9-5 right now. Fitz is not an upper echelon QB... but despite all evidence to the contrary, Gailey keeps calling games as though Fitz is the second coming of Joe Montana. A good offensive coach knows how to hide his weaknesses....Chan just exposes them, making it all that much easier to beat this team. I am ashamed to say, I really thought, after 2010, the Bills might have fallen into some dumb luck with the hiring of Gailey....but now I realize, there was no luck involved, just dumbness. For some reason, I don't loathe Gailey as much as I did Dick Jauron after three seasons....but he is pretty close... it's not the man, just his performances on Sunday afternoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Hey I understand every NFL receiver drops balls now and then. Some of them slump and drop multiple balls in the same game. TJ Graham took that to a new level today though, and embarassed Nix for burning a 3rd rounder (and a 7th to move up those few spots to get this chump). Maybe TJ runs a great 40, but his game speed is average and his hands are stone. He struggled in camp to pick up the playbook, cost us the NE game with that blown route, and on top of the fact that he dropped seemingly everything today, he ran probably the worst Go Route I've ever seen down the left sideline in man coverage. Fitz threw it as far as he could and the pass would have been right on the money if TJ knew how to run this route like a professional. He slowed down halfway into the route and started this amateur hand control battle with the corner and the pass dropped about 10 feet in front of him exactly where he should have been. For the 69th overall pick in last year's draft, I don't know boys. He's NOT a field stretcher or a great route runner or sure handed.. I'd rather see Easley in there, he can't be worse. I definitely did not want him and he was brutal today and has done little this season but he is only a rookie and we can only hope he gets better ... Foles or Wilson would be looking good in a Bills Jersey right now ... ok time to wake up. He was horrible. We traded up to draft a WR in the 3rd round and our hole at WR is now deeper. I watch other games and drool over guys like AJ Green, Brandon Lloyd, and Sidney Rice. Sidney Rice and Brandon Lloyd were picked up by their teams in the off season. Why can't we get someone like that? that would be too easy whats comical to me is that the FO and coaching staff has either said we are OK at WR or that our WRs are not big and physical enough. Yet the one WR they took last year, that they traded up to get is none of those things. Horrible hands, small, shifty. Nothing even close to a big physical WR that can over power CBs and go up for the ball. Yeah, there were no pass catching TEs in the draft either so we HAD TO trade up and get a track star Too soon to give up on him...WR and DT are the hardest positions to do well early in their careers...That said we need a true number 1 becasue Stevie is a great #2 maybe the best in the league, but they need a Calvin Johnson, a Andre Johnson, a guy who is open and can make a play when he is not open like Nix has been fond of saying. Dwayne Bowe and C Patterson would be a great 1-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 THE BILLS COULD HAVE DRAFTED RUSSELL WILSON INSTEAD OF GRAHAM IN THE 3RD ROUND. YES, I AM YELLING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Did anyone else think that the Bills picked TY Hilton in the third round only to say who the !@#$ is TJ Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I said earlier in the year that TJ was stinking up the place because he dropped some passes then and also couldn't get open....of course people on here said that it was Fitz' fault for not getting him the ball more effectively. Well, now I'm saying again....the guy stinks. What a horrible reach pick. He has terrible hands and cost the team yesterday. Chan was really down on him on his WGR show this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Too soon to give up on him...WR and DT are the hardest positions to do well early in their careers...That said we need a true number 1 becasue Stevie is a great #2 maybe the best in the league, but they need a Calvin Johnson, a Andre Johnson, a guy who is open and can make a play when he is not open like Nix has been fond of saying. Correct answer. Before yesterday, his hands have been fine. Let's see what year 2 brings before we hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) When the Bills drafted Graham I joked, you mean TY Hilton not TJ Graham. Graham was lower on my radar than Tommy Streeter. It was a weird pick at the time. The pick led directly to a L in the Pats game so it has to go down and was one of the worst picks in Bills history so far, and that is saying something. Seriously, did they think they were drafting TY Hilton? It could have been one collosal screw up that may come out years latter. I didn't make the same mistake in my dynasty league. I snatched Hilton up in the 3rd round of the expansion draft. Luck loves him some Hilton and hopefully will continue for years to come. Edited December 17, 2012 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Correct answer. Before yesterday, his hands have been fine. Let's see what year 2 brings before we hate him. I think it completely fair to hate him and let his play prove otherwise. I've hated him since draft day. Still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Did anyone else think that the Bills picked TY Hilton in the third round only to say who the !@#$ is TJ Graham EVERYONE said "who is TJ Graham"? ESPN. NFL Network. Me. You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) He didn't have a great game today...but I think he has shown some signs that he has some game...and all those "drops" were not of the "great pass, no hands"variety... it happens... just another miserable performance all the way around from this team. This x 1billion! I honestly think, with a competent coach, this team, with the same talent, could be 8-6 or 9-5 right now. Fitz is not an upper echelon QB... but despite all evidence to the contrary, Gailey keeps calling games as though Fitz is the second coming of Joe Montana. A good offensive coach knows how to hide his weaknesses....Chan just exposes them, making it all that much easier to beat this team. I am ashamed to say, I really thought, after 2010, the Bills might have fallen into some dumb luck with the hiring of Gailey....but now I realize, there was no luck involved, just dumbness. For some reason, I don't loathe Gailey as much as I did Dick Jauron after three seasons....but he is pretty close... it's not the man, just his performances on Sunday afternoons. Agree 100% with proper game management this team would be atleast 8-6 and sitting in the wild card spot. The talent is there now. With Jauron there was no talent. I agree though I don't loathe Gailey, I did loathe Jauron. I don't wknow hy. I think because with Nix and Gailey you don't feel lied to. They're as straight forward and honest as any GM/coach have ever been in the NFL. The only hope is that we get a higher potential retread or cast off next time around at HC. With the talent on the roster a higher caliber coach may be interested. Edited December 17, 2012 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Right now, TJ looks like a fourth rate Roscoe Parrish, and Donald Jones is a third rate Roscoe Parrish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Agree 100% with proper game management this team would be atleast 8-6 and sitting in the wild card spot. The talent is there now. With Jauron there was no talent. I agree though I don't loathe Gailey, I did loathe Jauron. I don't wknow hy. I think because with Nix and Gailey you don't feel lied to. They're as straight forward and honest as any GM/coach have ever been in the NFL. The only hope is that we get a higher potential retread or cast off next time around at HC. With the talent on the roster a higher caliber coach may be interested. The bolded part is just not true, no matter how many times you repeat it. Much of the "talent" is the same as it was--same guys. The rest was traded away for guys who aren't much better. The draft picks haven't changed the outcome and Graham is a prime example of a completely wasted opportunity and an egrgious error in judgement by an out of touch Nix. Oh, and Gailey lied to you about that QB sneak on first down. And Nix lied to you when he said he picked Gailey after getting 15 calls a day regarding the HC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Can this guy make contact when he tries to clap his hands?????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNapalm Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 This guy couldn't catch a cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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