MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 just got done watching dinner with andre... sorta scary, our lack of honesty in our lives. so what do we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 so what do we do? B word about replacement officials, continue to believe glib politicians, watch mindless TV. Rinse, repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 B word about replacement officials, continue to believe glib politicians, watch mindless TV. Rinse, repeat its so weird, i do feel like i put on an act, in front of others. not a complete act, but i never really let the guard down... i feel others are like that. like we are all living in this fantasy, wanting to break out, but nobody does. it's really awkward. like mindless people just walking around, nobody really spending time in deep thought. idk. its like people are just mechanical.... in a strange way, sex lies and videotape touches on this issue of being responsible, being reflective, and mostly honesty. we lose our humanity in a big way when we are not honest. is this the life i want? are these really my interests? do i really feel i know what i think is true? do i want this relationship? etc... we actually reject our autonomy when we are dishonest with others and especially ourselves... i think it's pretty important... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 great movie! people live an illusion promiseed by society and wind up not even being fully alive. once you know yourself, life simplifies itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 great movie! people live an illusion promiseed by society and wind up not even being fully alive. once you know yourself, life simplifies itself. not to be ridiculous, but what does that mean, knowing yourself? your limitations? physical/mental limitations? your character? your political beliefs, morals? am i shy? confident? and if im shy/confident? then why? people always say, be yourself. in a moderate sense, sure, yeah, dont put on a front... but there seems to be a bigger you. just because you are not putting on a front, doesnt mean you " know yourself"... it's strange, because my beliefs, about all ideas, keep changing... ( so who am i really?) does it go beyond simple personality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 i guess by knowing yourself i mean being comfortable with who you are and being at peace in how you fit into the world around you. the psychological term in self-actualization. maybe this will help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-actualization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 i guess by knowing yourself i mean being comfortable with who you are and being at peace in how you fit into the world around you. the psychological term in self-actualization. maybe this will help. http://en.wikipedia....f-actualization thats a long way of saying peace of mind with ones shortcomings... it does make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 exactly! you are who you are, try your best to evolve in life and above all...enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 ( so who am i really?) You are someone who wishes death upon an elderly team owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Look in the Mirror. Smile and love yourself. Be happy in your own skin. Thats happiness, thats freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 not to be ridiculous, but what does that mean, knowing yourself? It means go spend a year traveling around Europe and Australia partying while you are still young. it's strange, because my beliefs, about all ideas, keep changing... Growing out of your current sound bite political views something that happens to most people once they grow up, so that's normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 It means go spend a year traveling around Europe and Australia partying while you are still young . Growing out of your current sound bite political views something that happens to most people once they grow up, so that's normal. lmmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 The secret to life is... ...wait for it... Live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Strip away all the social conventions, masks, layers of deceipt and repression and you are likely to find, not so much an actualized/enlightened spiritual being, but a primitive infantile selfish monster. I still think it’s a noble endeavor, “finding oneself.” It’s just that the reality is a lot messier psychologically than some may want to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Look in your ex's window. Stalk and love her. Make a dress out of her skin. If I can't have her, no one will. Thats happiness, thats freedom Holy @#%, dude!!!! And you were doing so well, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Holy @#%, dude!!!! And you were doing so well, too. You owe me one computer screen and coffee! That made my morning hahahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Look in the Mirror. Smile and love yourself. Be happy in your own skin. Thats happiness, thats freedom. Plus having a long distance relationship crumble before your eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 The secret to life is to not stop breathing. That's about as deep as I can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 just got done watching dinner with andre... sorta scary, our lack of honesty in our lives. so what do we do? We post about it on football boards, thinking that we might somehow find some spiritual fulfillment in the internet. Or at least find it with less effort than it takes to leave mom's basement and go outside for an hour. What the hell is wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Strip away all the social conventions, masks, layers of deceipt and repression and you are likely to find, not so much an actualized/enlightened spiritual being, but a primitive infantile selfish monster. I still think it’s a noble endeavor, “finding oneself.” It’s just that the reality is a lot messier psychologically than some may want to believe. i think people at their core are good. when i mean good, i say yes we are imperfect, and we are jealous, selfish, but we know this.... it is our social contructs that hide this, ie, the problem is exacerbated by our society. e.g. the oppression of women, was never realized, because of these false social constructs. ( a man and woman would still have problems, but artifiicial power structures not justified, created more of a problem)... Edited September 26, 2012 by MARCELL DAREUS POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 i think people at their core are good. when i mean good, i say yes we are imperfect, and we are jealous, selfish, but we know this.... it is our social contructs that hide this, ie, the problem is exacerbated by our society. e.g. the oppression of women, was never realized, because of these false social constructs. ( a man and woman would still have problems, but artifiicial power structures not justified, created more of a problem)... And what exactly is "good" without our social constructs? Humans aren't inherently good or bad. We just are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 i think people at their core are good. when i mean good, i say yes we are imperfect, and we are jealous, selfish, but we know this.... it is our social contructs that hide this, ie, the problem is exacerbated by our society. e.g. the oppression of women, was never realized, because of these false social constructs. ( a man and woman would still have problems, but artifiicial power structures not justified, created more of a problem)... ... I need a translation of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 ... I need a translation of this. Allow me to paraphrase. People are fundamentally positive at their center, albeit solidly flawed. We acknowledge this. It is the confines of society, however, which conceal that which we plainly acknowledge, thereby agitating the problem ie: oblivious domestic violence, false constructs, cats and dogs (although they would still fight, but defined roles have amplified the species/gender struggle). If that doesn't make sense then simply compound the indefinite interest on your imaginary fiat, comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Allow me to paraphrase. People are fundamentally positive at their center, albeit solidly flawed. We acknowledge this. It is the confines of society, however, which conceal that which we plainly acknowledge, thereby agitating the problem ie: oblivious domestic violence, false constructs, cats and dogs (although they would still fight, but defined roles have amplified the species/gender struggle). If that doesn't make sense then simply compound the indefinite interest on your imaginary fiat, comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Allow me to paraphrase. People are fundamentally positive at their center, albeit solidly flawed. We acknowledge this. It is the confines of society, however, which conceal that which we plainly acknowledge, thereby agitating the problem ie: oblivious domestic violence, false constructs, cats and dogs (although they would still fight, but defined roles have amplified the species/gender struggle). If that doesn't make sense then simply compound the indefinite interest on your imaginary fiat, comrade. Well done, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Don't. Feed. This. Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 We post about it on football boards, thinking that we might somehow find some spiritual fulfillment in the internet. Or at least find it with less effort than it takes to leave mom's basement and go outside for an hour. What the hell is wrong with you? no. its simply dialogue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 no. its simply dialogue No, it's not. It's typing. The irony being that that observation is in very large part an answer to your original post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 No, it's not. It's typing. The irony being that that observation is in very large part an answer to your original post... and i never asserted meaning of life from a bbmb... its simply a conversation. not the answer, yes, i agree. but still important... imo starting to read heidegger, which is a very hard read... ( for me)... any insight would be welcome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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