Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) DraftTek has the bills drafting #14, selecting http://www.drafttek....raft-Round1.asp You lost me right there. If we draft higher than #20 (at the highest) Bad Things have gone down. Edit: overall I guess I have a big ol' Charolais with the power rankings used. But that's OK. The season is coming. Edited June 24, 2012 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 You lost me right there. If we draft higher than #20 (at the highest) Bad Things have gone down. Edit: overall I guess I have a big ol' Charolais with the power rankings used. But that's OK. The season is coming. moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 drafting teo would mean moving sheppard. teo is a MLB. problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QB is going to be a need, but Landry Jones?! Absolutely not. As far as position, I'd rank Tight End or Wide Receiver as a higher priority. He was decent 2 seasons ago, crappy last season especially after he lost Broyles. He does have a couple decent targets back so we'll see if he can rebound and become the QB many thought he would be. I guess I'm saying 'don't write him off yet.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 He was decent 2 seasons ago, crappy last season especially after he lost Broyles. He does have a couple decent targets back so we'll see if he can rebound and become the QB many thought he would be. I guess I'm saying 'don't write him off yet.' Fair enough. I just get suspicious of Big 12 QB's, and generally do not see them becoming great at the NFL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 WR 1st TE 2nd QB 3rd OLB 4th CB 5th DE 6th DT 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canks Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 How about drafting someone to play left guard? someone who actually has the arm length to open create space and keep d linemen out of our backfield. DUH trust me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Canks: Don't disagree and these mock drafts are not worth the paper we are starting as you know it depends on the best player available at that time matched with need. I'm not against a OG. I think outside of LT, RG is one of the hardest positions to play on the line as so many lines pull left and the RG is out there on one on ones often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 How about drafting someone to play left guard? someone who actually has the arm length to open create space and keep d linemen out of our backfield. DUH trust me We have a left guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatszel Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 So what team would be trading with from #32 to #14? I really hope we didn't give up too much. Now that is the way we should be thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 problem? id like to see how sheppard does at MLB this season. if he fails then im all for teo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Linebackers,linebackers,linebackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hey Astro now that the 1st round mock is up, when are they going to have the Big Board and Player Rankings up? They're working on them now. Here's my 129-name Big Board I've built so far, which is almost good for 4-rounders: Matt Barkley USC 6'2" 220 QB Robert Woods USC 6'1" 184 WRF Tyler Wilson Arkansas 6'3" 215 QB Star Lotulelei Utah 6'3" 325 DT43 DT34 Jarvis Jones Georgia 6'2" 242 OLB34 DE43 Tyrann Mathieu LSU 5'9" 176 CB William Gholston Michigan State 6'6" 278 DE43 DE34 Ricky Wagner Wisconsin 6'6" 320 LOT ROT Landry Jones Oklahoma 6'4" 230 QB Marcus Lattimore South Carolina 6'0" 232 RBF Johnathan Hankins Ohio State 6'3" 335 DT43 DT34 Sam Montgomery LSU 6'4" 248 OLB34 DE43 Eric Reid LSU 6'2" 208 FS Keenan Allen California 6'3" 205 WRP WRF David Amerson NC State 6'2" 193 CB Andre Ellington Clemson 5'10" 190 RB Barrett Jones Alabama 6'4" 312 OG OC Barkevious Mingo LSU 6'4" 240 OLB34 DE43 Justin Hunter Tennessee 6'4" 205 WRP WRF Oday Aboushi Virginia 6'6" 310 LOT ROT Tyler Eifert Notre Dame 6'5" 249 TE D.J. Fluker Alabama 6'6" 335 ROT Jackson Jeffcoat Texas 6'4" 250 DE43 OLB34 Johnthan Banks Mississippi St 6'1" 185 CB Shayne Skov Stanford 6'3" 244 SILB WILB Jelani Jenkins (Jr.) Florida OLB43 T.J. McDonald USC 6'2" 205 FS Sean Porter Texas A&M 6'2" 230 OLB43 Luke Joeckel Texas A&M 6'6" 310 LOT Chris Faulk LSU 6'6" 325 ROT Brandon Jenkins Florida State 6'3" 265 OLB34 DE43 Xavier Rhodes Florida State 6'1" 215 CB Montee Ball Wisconsin 5'11" 218 RBF Logan Thomas Virginia Tech 6'5" 254 QB Manti Te'o (9) Notre Dame 6'2" 255 SILB WILB Oday Aboushi Virginia LOT Bennie Logan (65) LSU 6'3" 292 DT43 Terrance Williams (NL) Baylor 6'1" 190 WRF Alex Okafor Texas 6'4" 260 DE43 OLB34 E.J. Manuel Florida State QB Joseph Fauria (NL) UCLA 6'7" 252 TE Geno Smith West Virginia QB Cyril Richardson (NL) Baylor 6'4" 328 OG Jesse Williams Alabama 6'3" 320 DE34 DT43 Tyler Bray Tennessee 6'5" 210 QB Kawann Short Purdue 6'3" 310 DT43 Sylvester Williams (NL) North Carolina 6'3" 320 DE34 DT43 Robert Lester Alabama 6'2" 210 FS Seantrel Henderson Miami (FL) 6'8" 350 OT OT Ray Ray Armstrong Miami (FL) 6'4" 216 SS Taylor Lewan (NL) Michigan 6'7" 302 LOT Micah Hyde (NL) Iowa 6'1" 185 CB Tom Wort Oklahoma 6'0" 229 WILB SILB Arthur Brown (NL) Kansas State 6'1" 228 WILB SILB Tharold Simon (Jr.) Louisiana State 6'3" 187 CB Joseph Randle (NL)(Jr?) Oklahoma State 6'0" 192 RBF Marquess Wilson (NL) Washington State 6'2" 188 WRF Desmond Trufant Washington CB Jonathan Cooper North Carolina 6'3" 310 OG Matt Elam (Jr.) Florida 5'10" 206 SS Devin Taylor South Carolina 6'6" 260 DE43 OLB34 Jonathan Brown (Jr.) Illinois 6'1" 235 OLB43 Jeff Tuel Washington State 6'3" 225 QB Khaled Holmes USC 6'3" 310 OC Johnathan Jenkins (NL) Georgia 6'3" 351 DT34 DT43 Philip Lutzenkirchen (NL) Auburn 6'4" 250 TE Gerald Hodges (28) Penn State 6'2" 234 OLB43 Kevin Reddick North Carolina 6'2" 240 WILB SILB Dion Jordan Oregon DE Michael Buchanan (NL) Illinois 6'5" 240 DE43 OLB34 Dee Milliner (NL) Alabama 6'1" 196 CB Da'Rick Rogers (35) Tennessee 6'3" 215 WRP WRF Knile Davis (22) Arkansas 6'0" 228 RBF Collin Klein Kansas State 6'3" 225 QB Travis Frederick (NL) Wisconsin 6'4" 330 OG Justin Pugh (NL) Syracuse 6'5" 292 LOT Sharrif Floyd (NL) Florida 6'3" 298 DT43 Baker Steinkuhler (NL) Nebraska 6'5" 290 DE34 DT43 Kenny Vaccaro Texas 6'1" 215 SS Kenny Tate Maryland SS Christine Michael (NL) Texas A&M 5'11" 215 RBF Cobi Hamilton (43) Arkansas 6'3" 209 WRP WRF Kenjon Barner Oregon 5'11" 195 RB Tavarres King Georgia 6'1" 192 WRF DJ Harper Boise State 5'9" 205 RB Rex Burkhead Nebraska 5'11" 210 RB Alex Hurst LSU 6'6" 340 ROT Jake Stoneburner (NL) Ohio State 6'5" 245 TE C.J. Mosley (32) Alabama 6'2" 235 OLB43 WILB Stepfan Taylor Stanford 5'11" 210 RB Travis Swanson Arkansas 6'5" 305 OC Carrington Byndom Texas 6'0" 180 CB Ray Graham (NL) Pittsburgh 5'11" 193 RBC RBF Josh Boyce (NL) TCU 5'11" 203 WRS WRF Alvin Bailey (Jr.) Arkansas 6'5" 319 OG Mike Glennon North Carolina State 6'4" 225 QB Onterio McCalebb Auburn 5'10" 175 RBC Jake Matthews (30) Texas A&M 6'5" 305 ROT Johnny Adams Michigan State 5'11" 175 CB Dominique Easley (Jr.) Florida 6'2" 286 DT43 Aaron Mellette (NL) Elon 6'3" 214 WRP WRF Bjoern Werner (42) Florida State 6'4" 273 DE43 Chase Thomas (46) Stanford 6'4" 240 OLB43 OLB34 Nico Johnson (NL) Alabama 6'2" 246 SILB WILB Zach Line SMU 6'0" 230 RBC RBF Aaron Murray (33) Georgia 6'1" 212 QB Chance Warmack Alabama 6'3" 320 OG John Simon (NL) Ohio State 6'2" 270 DE43 Tavon Austin (NL) West Virginia 5'9" 176 WRS Giovani Bernard (34) North Carolina 5'10" 205 RBF Xavier Nixon (NL) Florida 6'5" 292 LOT Dan Buckner (NL) Arizona 6'3" 220 WRP WRF Jordan Poyer (NL) Oregon State 5'11" 190 CB Kwame Geathers Georgia 6'5" 350 DT34 DT43 Denard Robinson (NL) Michigan 5'11" 195 WRS QB-Wild Cassius Marsh (NL) UCLA 6'3" 290 DT43 Bacarri Rambo (NL) Georgia 6'0" 218 FS Tony Jefferson (NL) Oklahoma 5'10" 200 FS Sheldon Richardson (NL) Missouri 6'3" 290 DE34 DT43 Khaseem Green (NL) Rutgers 6'1" 220 OLB43 Michael Williams (NL) Alabama 6'6" 270 TE Jonathan Franklin UCLA 5'10" 195 RB Mark Jackson (NL) Glenville State 6'5" 326 ROT LOT Corey Lemonier (NL) Auburn 6'4" 242 OLB34 DE43 DeVonte Holloman (NL) South Carolina 6'2" 232 SS Sean Renfree Duke 6'4" 225 QB Brad Sorensen Southern Utah 6'4" 225 QB Marqueis Gray Minnesota 6'4" 240 QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 They're working on them now. Here's my 129-name Big Board I've built so far, which is almost good for 4-rounders: Matt Barkley USC 6'2" 220 QB Robert Woods USC 6'1" 184 WRF Tyler Wilson Arkansas 6'3" 215 QB Star Lotulelei Utah 6'3" 325 DT43 DT34 Jarvis Jones Georgia 6'2" 242 OLB34 DE43 Tyrann Mathieu LSU 5'9" 176 CB William Gholston Michigan State 6'6" 278 DE43 DE34 Ricky Wagner Wisconsin 6'6" 320 LOT ROT Landry Jones Oklahoma 6'4" 230 QB Marcus Lattimore South Carolina 6'0" 232 RBF Johnathan Hankins Ohio State 6'3" 335 DT43 DT34 Sam Montgomery LSU 6'4" 248 OLB34 DE43 Eric Reid LSU 6'2" 208 FS Keenan Allen California 6'3" 205 WRP WRF David Amerson NC State 6'2" 193 CB Andre Ellington Clemson 5'10" 190 RB Barrett Jones Alabama 6'4" 312 OG OC Barkevious Mingo LSU 6'4" 240 OLB34 DE43 Justin Hunter Tennessee 6'4" 205 WRP WRF Oday Aboushi Virginia 6'6" 310 LOT ROT Tyler Eifert Notre Dame 6'5" 249 TE D.J. Fluker Alabama 6'6" 335 ROT Jackson Jeffcoat Texas 6'4" 250 DE43 OLB34 Johnthan Banks Mississippi St 6'1" 185 CB Shayne Skov Stanford 6'3" 244 SILB WILB Jelani Jenkins (Jr.) Florida OLB43 T.J. McDonald USC 6'2" 205 FS Sean Porter Texas A&M 6'2" 230 OLB43 Luke Joeckel Texas A&M 6'6" 310 LOT Chris Faulk LSU 6'6" 325 ROT Brandon Jenkins Florida State 6'3" 265 OLB34 DE43 Xavier Rhodes Florida State 6'1" 215 CB Montee Ball Wisconsin 5'11" 218 RBF Logan Thomas Virginia Tech 6'5" 254 QB Manti Te'o (9) Notre Dame 6'2" 255 SILB WILB Oday Aboushi Virginia LOT Bennie Logan (65) LSU 6'3" 292 DT43 Terrance Williams (NL) Baylor 6'1" 190 WRF Alex Okafor Texas 6'4" 260 DE43 OLB34 E.J. Manuel Florida State QB Joseph Fauria (NL) UCLA 6'7" 252 TE Geno Smith West Virginia QB Cyril Richardson (NL) Baylor 6'4" 328 OG Jesse Williams Alabama 6'3" 320 DE34 DT43 Tyler Bray Tennessee 6'5" 210 QB Kawann Short Purdue 6'3" 310 DT43 Sylvester Williams (NL) North Carolina 6'3" 320 DE34 DT43 Robert Lester Alabama 6'2" 210 FS Seantrel Henderson Miami (FL) 6'8" 350 OT OT Ray Ray Armstrong Miami (FL) 6'4" 216 SS Taylor Lewan (NL) Michigan 6'7" 302 LOT Micah Hyde (NL) Iowa 6'1" 185 CB Tom Wort Oklahoma 6'0" 229 WILB SILB Arthur Brown (NL) Kansas State 6'1" 228 WILB SILB Tharold Simon (Jr.) Louisiana State 6'3" 187 CB Joseph Randle (NL)(Jr?) Oklahoma State 6'0" 192 RBF Marquess Wilson (NL) Washington State 6'2" 188 WRF Desmond Trufant Washington CB Jonathan Cooper North Carolina 6'3" 310 OG Matt Elam (Jr.) Florida 5'10" 206 SS Devin Taylor South Carolina 6'6" 260 DE43 OLB34 Jonathan Brown (Jr.) Illinois 6'1" 235 OLB43 Jeff Tuel Washington State 6'3" 225 QB Khaled Holmes USC 6'3" 310 OC Johnathan Jenkins (NL) Georgia 6'3" 351 DT34 DT43 Philip Lutzenkirchen (NL) Auburn 6'4" 250 TE Gerald Hodges (28) Penn State 6'2" 234 OLB43 Kevin Reddick North Carolina 6'2" 240 WILB SILB Dion Jordan Oregon DE Michael Buchanan (NL) Illinois 6'5" 240 DE43 OLB34 Dee Milliner (NL) Alabama 6'1" 196 CB Da'Rick Rogers (35) Tennessee 6'3" 215 WRP WRF Knile Davis (22) Arkansas 6'0" 228 RBF Collin Klein Kansas State 6'3" 225 QB Travis Frederick (NL) Wisconsin 6'4" 330 OG Justin Pugh (NL) Syracuse 6'5" 292 LOT Sharrif Floyd (NL) Florida 6'3" 298 DT43 Baker Steinkuhler (NL) Nebraska 6'5" 290 DE34 DT43 Kenny Vaccaro Texas 6'1" 215 SS Kenny Tate Maryland SS Christine Michael (NL) Texas A&M 5'11" 215 RBF Cobi Hamilton (43) Arkansas 6'3" 209 WRP WRF Kenjon Barner Oregon 5'11" 195 RB Tavarres King Georgia 6'1" 192 WRF DJ Harper Boise State 5'9" 205 RB Rex Burkhead Nebraska 5'11" 210 RB Alex Hurst LSU 6'6" 340 ROT Jake Stoneburner (NL) Ohio State 6'5" 245 TE C.J. Mosley (32) Alabama 6'2" 235 OLB43 WILB Stepfan Taylor Stanford 5'11" 210 RB Travis Swanson Arkansas 6'5" 305 OC Carrington Byndom Texas 6'0" 180 CB Ray Graham (NL) Pittsburgh 5'11" 193 RBC RBF Josh Boyce (NL) TCU 5'11" 203 WRS WRF Alvin Bailey (Jr.) Arkansas 6'5" 319 OG Mike Glennon North Carolina State 6'4" 225 QB Onterio McCalebb Auburn 5'10" 175 RBC Jake Matthews (30) Texas A&M 6'5" 305 ROT Johnny Adams Michigan State 5'11" 175 CB Dominique Easley (Jr.) Florida 6'2" 286 DT43 Aaron Mellette (NL) Elon 6'3" 214 WRP WRF Bjoern Werner (42) Florida State 6'4" 273 DE43 Chase Thomas (46) Stanford 6'4" 240 OLB43 OLB34 Nico Johnson (NL) Alabama 6'2" 246 SILB WILB Zach Line SMU 6'0" 230 RBC RBF Aaron Murray (33) Georgia 6'1" 212 QB Chance Warmack Alabama 6'3" 320 OG John Simon (NL) Ohio State 6'2" 270 DE43 Tavon Austin (NL) West Virginia 5'9" 176 WRS Giovani Bernard (34) North Carolina 5'10" 205 RBF Xavier Nixon (NL) Florida 6'5" 292 LOT Dan Buckner (NL) Arizona 6'3" 220 WRP WRF Jordan Poyer (NL) Oregon State 5'11" 190 CB Kwame Geathers Georgia 6'5" 350 DT34 DT43 Denard Robinson (NL) Michigan 5'11" 195 WRS QB-Wild Cassius Marsh (NL) UCLA 6'3" 290 DT43 Bacarri Rambo (NL) Georgia 6'0" 218 FS Tony Jefferson (NL) Oklahoma 5'10" 200 FS Sheldon Richardson (NL) Missouri 6'3" 290 DE34 DT43 Khaseem Green (NL) Rutgers 6'1" 220 OLB43 Michael Williams (NL) Alabama 6'6" 270 TE Jonathan Franklin UCLA 5'10" 195 RB Mark Jackson (NL) Glenville State 6'5" 326 ROT LOT Corey Lemonier (NL) Auburn 6'4" 242 OLB34 DE43 DeVonte Holloman (NL) South Carolina 6'2" 232 SS Sean Renfree Duke 6'4" 225 QB Brad Sorensen Southern Utah 6'4" 225 QB Marqueis Gray Minnesota 6'4" 240 QB Sweet, thanks Astro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 I have changed the Bills Positional Needs based on your comments. If I were drafting now using my big board above, I'd go RD1: Jackson Jeffcoat---Texas---6'4" 250 DE43 OLB34 RD2: Joseph Fauria------UCLA----6'7" 252 TE RD3: Cobi Hamilton------Arkansas6'3" 209 WRP WRF (Draft Scout has him much higher) RD4: Marqueis Gray------Minn----6'4" 240 QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Looks like I'll have too rearrange my Mock but I'll wait awhile till the season is well underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Looks like I'll have too rearrange my Mock but I'll wait awhile till the season is well underway. Don't change it; I respect and enjoy your work on the draft every year. And yes, it is a tad early. Do you have Ray-Ray picked to eventually replace Wilson? Because I could see them picking SS early in 2013. Edited June 25, 2012 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The quality of talent on the Bills roster has gotten to the point where the weight given to BPA far exceeds the weight given for positional needs. In truth both are always factored in but I can't remember the last time when the quality of the player outweighed what position he plays by such a wide margin. The Bills have gotten to the point that they can draft like the Steelers (DeCastro, Pouncey, etc) and just draft the best player available when their pick comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 DE is a top priority now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Don't change it; I respect and enjoy your work on the draft every year. And yes, it is a tad early. Do you have Ray-Ray picked to eventually replace Wilson? Because I could see them picking SS early in 2013. Yeah although I like Wilson and the team was high on Mark Barron from Alabama so I figure they are looking a star there. I saw RR play last year and thought he was a beast plus that size will come in real handy. Thanks for comments about my work on the draft, I can get OCD with it but I really like "scouting" players during games so I use that plus draft rankings to see where and what players to pick. Whatever happened to Cordarro Law? I thought this guys would at least get drafted but I couldn't even find him as UDFA nor even a camp invite which guys from Alfred state got invites for Heaven's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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