Meathead Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) locks: mario, kyle, marcell, kelsay, anderson almost locks: merriman, troup - big investment protects them somewhat; both need to show injury problems are over or they could be released to make room for other promising youngsters likely to stay: edwards, s.johnson - edwards for his quality play and veteran savvy and johnson because he plays all line positions battling for final spot: heard, carrington, moore Edited June 5, 2012 by Meathead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 1338916316[/url]' post='2480956']Probably because theres a roster limit, and there are alot more positions other then DL that you have to have players to play. They can't just stock pile d-linemen, someone will have to be cut so they can trim the roster down to its limit That doesn't mean we have to cut Edwards, Johnson or Kelsey. If they are among the 8 best DL, I expect them to make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Alex Carrington He blocked a PAT and a Field Goal. Also had 2 big batted passes (one was intercepted). Also had a sack and several tackles for losses. Kelsay didn't record a single tackle for a loss last year despite getting way more playing time. Sacks aren't tackles for loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 i do actually think the bills will keep 10 dlinemen, especially if merriman is really healthy first of all, they will be playing with fewer than three lbs about half the time so they really only need to keep five there, maybe even as few as four if they think scott can do more than cover the tes. they also can have several of their dlinemen drop back if they want/need them to, including merriman, johnson, and in an emergency carrington, and anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 If there are no injuries before the season starts (a big IF with guys like Troup and Merriman), there are too many bodies on the DL, and one of these 30+, higher paid guys won't stick around. Who goes? I say Edwards is the odd man out. Merriman or Kelsay? You can't keep two part-time players at nearly $6 million per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Merriman or Kelsay? You can't keep two part-time players at nearly $6 million per year. You can for a year. Not likely more than that. We're still in transition for our defense. We may keep extra to find out who excels in the new system, or to cover our behinds for a year if some can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Merriman or Kelsay? You can't keep two part-time players at nearly $6 million per year. This. Too much money for backups. Kelsey, Johnson and Edwards go, 10 million in cash/cap space freed up for much needed extensions, cheap young players with good upside kept. All assuming no DL injuries in camp which is of course wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Why are these three our only options. I don't see any getting cut. Nix said "it takes a village to stop the run." Well, we finally have a good looking tribe. As much as we run nickel, and dime, I say drop a linebacker. Having a lot of them dosent make them good. Keep the quality guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Not seeing much love for Kellen Heard who played pretty well last season. He may make both Johnson and Edwards expendable. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) i do actually think the bills will keep 10 dlinemen, especially if merriman is really healthy first of all, they will be playing with fewer than three LB's about half the time so they really only need to keep five there, maybe even as few as four if they think scott can do more than cover the tes. they also can have several of their dlinemen drop back if they want/need them to, including merriman, johnson, and in an emergency carrington, and anderson I can't see them keeping fewer than 6 LB's, 7 if you count Scott. Backup LB's are pretty big special teams players and if you keep only 4 or 5 and an injury or two hits then you're screwed. Edited June 5, 2012 by biglukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 1338919547[/url]' post='2480999']This. Too much money for backups. Kelsey, Johnson and Edwards go, 10 million in cash/cap space freed up for much needed extensions, cheap young players with good upside kept. All assuming no DL injuries in camp which is of course wishful thinking. We can for THIS year. It's doubtful we are going to cut one of those and then sign a FA with that money. Why not keep them (if they are deemed one of the best 8 DL on the roster), let them play this year and hopefully produce and help us win some games? The only way I see them being cut before the season is if they plann on resigning levitre and byrd during the season. I envision Buddy trying to lock them up before FA starts in the off season. If that's the case, cut the DL then and get their production during this season. I hope they plan on extending levitre and Byrd before the season is over, but I don't see that happening for both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Allow YE OLE to field this one via the gift of HAIKU: Edwards will be cut Says conventional wisdom Kelsay can go too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) my roster is ---- mark anderson/shawne merriman kyle williams/alex carrington marcell dareus/dwan edwards/kellen heard super mario/chris kelsay/kyle moore i think we all agree we keep the top 4 des mario, anderson, merriman, kelsay- they all started last year... i think they keep the 4 dts dareus, williams, edwards, carrington- they all started last year. so with 2 spots open, ( just guessing they keep 10), you have heard, troup, gilbert and ross for the last dt spot. IT WOULD BE DUMB TO CUT HEARD and i dont think troup beats him out with the back problems. if troup is healthy, he might, but thats a big if. its probably going to be heard... then you have johnson, moore, eddins, dotson, competing for the last de spot. moore is younger, taller,longer, and has better pass rushing ability at de. he fits wanny more.... ross and eddins go to the ps If Troup is healthy, can't see Heard making the team. He isn't the athlete that Troup is and Heard struggles changing directions once starts going a way. Troup is more suited to the new defense if can stay healthy in my opinion. Even if Troup isnt healthy, wouldnt shock me if someone beats out Heard, with the change of play style they are putting in honestly. Do agree you on rest of your statement however. Edited June 5, 2012 by rstencel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Johnson and Edwards will be cut. Carrington will be a swing DT/DE. Kelsay is a serviceable 4-3 DE. I am hopeful Troup is the surpise performer at camp and solidifies the three man DT rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 This. Wanny specifically mentioned that Edwards "is an athlete" and they're not asking the DTs to "take up blocks." Wanny wants to attack. So in that case, how can Troupe possibly make the team - healthy or not? He's purely a NT from what we've seen of him so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 So in that case, how can Troupe possibly make the team - healthy or not? He's purely a NT from what we've seen of him so far. He's going to have to show something during TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Merriman or Kelsay? You can't keep two part-time players at nearly $6 million per year. Sure you can for a year and Merriman is still relatively young. So in that case, how can Troupe possibly make the team - healthy or not? He's purely a NT from what we've seen of him so far. Fair arguement but there are still lots of situations where run stuffers are needed. Goal line and short yardage packages may have Dareus at DE and Williams and Troup at DT. Run oriented offensive opponents will require more heft up front and more rotations of the DT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 He's going to have to show something during TC. Think they just keep Carrington and Edwards as thier backup tackles then, and dont keep a 5th. Use that spot for an extra LB for special teams instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Arn't we getting way ahead of our selfs. Come July-August and the injuries start and it will sort it's self out. Bet? Just great we have a bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 If there are no injuries before the season starts (a big IF with guys like Troup and Merriman), there are too many bodies on the DL, and one of these 30+, higher paid guys won't stick around. Who goes? I say Edwards is the odd man out. Kelsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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