Pete Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 10 WR Michael Floyd Notre Dame Sr. 6-3 224 (Should pick: Mark Barron, S, Alabama). Buffalo will break the Cardinals' hearts by stealing Floyd to pair with Stevie Johnson and give quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick a true second weapon and bona fide deep threat. But I'd rather have the kind of enforcer in the secondary that so many teams covet. The 6-1, 213-pound Barron is a player whom multiple teams will try to trade up to get. KING: Bills draft needs Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/04/20/mock.draft/index.html#ixzz1sh6mQNEw Kiper 1-Floyd 2-Jonathan Martin 3-Mychal Kendricks I would love Kiper's draft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 floyd/martin would be ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTW2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 floyd/martin would be ridiculous Very insightful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Love to know why he thinks Barron is needed by the Bills instead of another Alabama DB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharebear Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 He is better than kirpatrick and gilmore though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Love to know why he thinks Barron is needed by the Bills instead of another Alabama DB. Barron is not a pot head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I know Martin is dropping but I don't see him dropping to the second round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I know Martin is dropping but I don't see him dropping to the second round We think #23 to Lions or #30 to SF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 10 WR Michael Floyd Notre Dame Sr. 6-3 224 (Should pick: Mark Barron, S, Alabama). Buffalo will break the Cardinals' hearts by stealing Floyd to pair with Stevie Johnson and give quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick a true second weapon and bona fide deep threat. But I'd rather have the kind of enforcer in the secondary that so many teams covet. The 6-1, 213-pound Barron is a player whom multiple teams will try to trade up to get. KING: Bills draft needs Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/04/20/mock.draft/index.html#ixzz1sh6mQNEw Kiper 1-Floyd 2-Jonathan Martin 3-Mychal Kendricks I would love Kiper's draft! If Kiper's first 3 rounds were our actual first 3 rounds I would jog Chesterfield County naked holding a Bills flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Love to know why he thinks Barron is needed by the Bills instead of another Alabama DB. I watch Bama. Barron is a star. He covers, blitzes, has great hands, and hits like a truck on running plays. Anybody who has read my posts knows that I dislike drafting defensive backs early. This kid however is going to be a fantastic player. Better than Kirkpatrick imo. Despite the above, I hope that the Bills go OL or even LB. But if they draft this kid, I won't have a "Donte Whitner meltdown." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I watch Bama. Barron is a star. He covers, blitzes, has great hands, and hits like a truck on running plays. Anybody who has read my posts knows that I dislike drafting defensive backs early. This kid however is going to be a fantastic player. Better than Kirkpatrick imo. Despite the above, I hope that the Bills go OL or even LB. But if they draft this kid, I won't have a "Donte Whitner meltdown." More proof that the Mayans were right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Don't we have Byrd and Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Don't we have Byrd and Wilson Depending on what types of coverages teams run (especially given that on the majority of snaps, there are 5-6 DBs on the field), its not unusual to see a team trot out 3 safeties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Don't we have Byrd and Wilson George Wilson shouldn't keep us from drafting anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I watch Bama. Barron is a star. He covers, blitzes, has great hands, and hits like a truck on running plays. Anybody who has read my posts knows that I dislike drafting defensive backs early. This kid however is going to be a fantastic player. Better than Kirkpatrick imo. Despite the above, I hope that the Bills go OL or even LB. But if they draft this kid, I won't have a "Donte Whitner meltdown." I'll try to remember this through the tears that will be welling up in my eyes if they pick Barron--if you aren't upset about drafting him with your hate for early DB's, then I should be willing to trust Chixey on the pick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 If Kiper's first 3 rounds were our actual first 3 rounds I would jog Chesterfield County naked holding a Bills flag. Thanks for the warning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 If that's the case, I can see Dallas trying to move up to get Barron for their 3rd? 4th? Something like that. Also, the most likely trade down scenario for me is if Fletcher Cox is still on the board when it comes to us. We'd get more than a few calls I am guessing. Other than that....I don't see us taking a Safety. Not this close to the Whitner thing. Given everything I have heard, and haven't, I think its Keuchly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Hey if Bill from NY can handle Barron being drafted then I'm ok with the pick. Man, that must have been a hard choice Bill!O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 If that's the case, I can see Dallas trying to move up to get Barron for their 3rd? 4th? Something like that. Also, the most likely trade down scenario for me is if Fletcher Cox is still on the board when it comes to us. We'd get more than a few calls I am guessing. Other than that....I don't see us taking a Safety. Not this close to the Whitner thing. I prefer Gilmore but I think "the Whitner thing" makes it more likely we pick Barron. I'm sure Buddy will calm the fans by making assurances that we think Barron will be an All Pro like Whitner but that in this case we won't let him walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Hey if Bill from NY can handle Barron being drafted then I'm ok with the pick. Man, that must have been a hard choice Bill!O Again, he isn't my top selection by any means. But we are not looking at a Donte Whitner here. This kid does it all. Look at Trent Richardson. I can't wait to see where he goes, but consider him the anti-Spiller. He is a bruising, every down back with speed, blocking, and very good hands. I don't want him either at #10, but Greg Cossel calls him the best back to come out since Adrian Peterson. It's all but impossible to predict what the Bills will do. Buddy is one for two wrt drafts. If he has another good one, we can contend for the wild card imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) I watch Bama. Barron is a star. He covers, blitzes, has great hands, and hits like a truck on running plays. Anybody who has read my posts knows that I dislike drafting defensive backs early. This kid however is going to be a fantastic player. Better than Kirkpatrick imo. Despite the above, I hope that the Bills go OL or even LB. But if they draft this kid, I won't have a "Donte Whitner meltdown." He's a safety. You simply don't burn a number ten overall pick on a safety or guard or tight end or any other low impact position. Safeties are used for backup support for CBs and LBs so it would be foolish to put that position ahead of either of the other two. At ten overall you should be drafting QB, OT, WR, DE, DT or CB. Although not necessarily in that order. Regarding Kuechly and the LB position, it's generally isn't a good practice to draft LBs at ten overall but if it's a choice between Barron and Kuechly I'm drafting Kuechly because he plays closer to the line and he'd have more impact on a game. It's so much easier to take a safety out of a game than a LB. I think Buddy's board looks like this... Kalil, Claiborne, Blackmon, Gilmore, Kuechly. I think the only reason they had Barron in for a visit was if they had drafted back into the twenties (this was when Barron was all over the mock boards and before the talk of Dallas taking him). Drafting Barron would be a huge mistake and like passing on Ngata, the would be would be kicking themselves for years to come. Edited April 22, 2012 by 1billsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 He's a safety. You simply don't burn a number ten overall pick on a safety or guard or tight end or any other low impact position. Safeties are used for backup support for CBs and LBs so it would be foolish to put that position ahead of either of the other two. At ten overall you should be drafting QB, OT, WR, DE, DT or CB. Although not necessarily in that order. Regarding Kuechly and the LB position, it's generally isn't a good practice to draft LBs at ten overall but if it's a choice between Barron and Kuechly I'm drafting Kuechly because he plays closer to the line and he'd have more impact on a game. It's so much easier to take a safety out of a game than a LB. I think Buddy's board looks like this... Kalil, Claiborne, Blackmon, Gilmore, Kuechly. I think the only reason they had Barron in for a visit was if they had drafted back into the twenties (this was when Barron was all over the mock boards and before the talk of Dallas taking him). Drafting Barron would be a huge mistake and like passing on Ngata, the would be would be kicking themselves for years to come. Sorry, I tried to be, but apparently I was not specific enough. I do not want a db or rb at #10. I never have nor ever will. My point is that imo, Barron is WAY better than Whitner, and imo better than Byrd or Wilson. Is this enough to make me want a safety at #10? No, it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Sorry, I tried to be, but apparently I was not specific enough. I do not want a db or rb at #10. I never have nor ever will. My point is that imo, Barron is WAY better than Whitner, and imo better than Byrd or Wilson. Is this enough to make me want a safety at #10? No, it is not. Sorry, I gotcha now. I know you don't want a DB, but having fortified our front seven the past two years I think Gilmore would shore up a key weak spot making our pass defense (in a pass happy league) even better. The DBs and the pass rushers work hand in hand in brining a QB to his knees. I'm sure your dream is to get Kalil but barring a trade up scenario it doesn't look promising and after him the value of LTs don't look close at all at ten overall. I think the Bills pick will be Gilmore because I don't see Jacksonville going CB in round one. I know there's rumors, but that team has more pressing WR/DL needs to address. Also, Jacksonville could very well be the first team to trade out of their position for an extra pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 10 WR Michael Floyd Notre Dame Sr. 6-3 224 (Should pick: Mark Barron, S, Alabama). Buffalo will break the Cardinals' hearts by stealing Floyd to pair with Stevie Johnson and give quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick a true second weapon and bona fide deep threat. But I'd rather have the kind of enforcer in the secondary that so many teams covet. The 6-1, 213-pound Barron is a player whom multiple teams will try to trade up to get. KING: Bills draft needs Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/04/20/mock.draft/index.html#ixzz1sh6mQNEw Kiper 1-Floyd 2-Jonathan Martin 3-Mychal Kendricks I would love Kiper's draft! For once i hope Kiper is right. That would even be as good as getting Super Mario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 1335031746[/url]' post='2442427']If Kiper's first 3 rounds were our actual first 3 rounds I would jog Chesterfield County naked holding a Bills flag. Oh no, not AGAIN?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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