Since 1972 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Does it matter? PTR Uhmm,kinda does. If I pay that kind of money I want some talent that pays dividends,instead of heart you have to continue to invest in. See the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 1333725685[/url]' post='2431735']According to NFL.com... Rankings 24) Ryan Fitzpatrick, Buffalo Bills: Look at his stats and you see a late-career bloomer. Look at his stats after his first 16 NFL games and you see why he's rounding out the bottom third. Defensive coordinators know how to slow him down. But he did go to Harvard, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he attempts to make his own adjustments this offseason. Here's my first tip: Don't grow the beard. Its always a little disheartening to see this quarterback ranking and realize that as much as we like him, Fitz does fall in the bottom third of the league as far as QBs go. I look at that list and I cant even justify moving him up that list by more than maybe 1 or 2. Looks about right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Well Fitz is the guy so deal with it. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsSD Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Well Fitz is the guy so deal with it. PTR Exactly, there is no one out there that is available and better than Fitz. He gives it all and looks to be a good leader on and off the field. Also, his contract is pretty average for a QB signed in the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammie65 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) You would rather have the Raiders, Rams or Bears WR corps over ours? I think its a bit of a stretch to say that Fitz would be a top QB if his WRs were better.. Good quarterbacks make receivers better (see Brady, Brees, Manning) I agree, except for Brady it would be Tight End and not receivers. He can't throw over ten yards consistently or accurately without Moss. They might have won their 4th bowl if he could. Poor Welker undeservedly gets all the blame. Edited April 8, 2012 by hammie65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since 1972 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Well Fitz is the guy so deal with it. PTR Wow, I feel Schooled!?!? Nothing like stating the obivious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Wow, I feel Schooled!?!? Nothing like stating the obivious. Was that what I was doing? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since 1972 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Buffalo has missed the playoffs for twelve straight years...There I can do it to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Things I've learned from this thread: -the reason fitz threw so many interceptions is because our defense sucks. But that has nothing to do with why his yards and tds were so high. -fitz is better than Eli. -Brady can't throw the deep ball without randy moss. -fitz can throw the deepball. Look at the one play vs the steelers. -Fitz is better than Jack Kemp and Joe Ferguson. -fitz is better the Andrew Luck. I can't wait to learn more!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKidd Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 According to NFL.com... Rankings 24) Ryan Fitzpatrick, Buffalo Bills: Look at his stats and you see a late-career bloomer. Look at his stats after his first 16 NFL games and you see why he's rounding out the bottom third. Defensive coordinators know how to slow him down. But he did go to Harvard, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he attempts to make his own adjustments this offseason. Here's my first tip: Don't grow the beard. Its always a little disheartening to see this quarterback ranking and realize that as much as we like him, Fitz does fall in the bottom third of the league as far as QBs go. I look at that list and I cant even justify moving him up that list by more than maybe 1 or 2. Hey maybe we can trade Fitz for Andrew Luck! LOL You have to admit that was funny, stupid but funny. Hope I at least made you smile a little. LOL Buffalo has missed the playoffs for twelve straight years...There I can do it to! =========================================================================================== OWOOOOGA! Kidprison, you be a HOTTIE! You must be from Tennessee, you're the only TEN I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Things I've learned from this thread: -the reason fitz threw so many interceptions is because our defense sucks. But that has nothing to do with why his yards and tds were so high. -fitz is better than Eli. -Brady can't throw the deep ball without randy moss. -fitz can throw the deepball. Look at the one play vs the steelers. -Fitz is better than Jack Kemp and Joe Ferguson. -fitz is better the Andrew Luck. I can't wait to learn more!! Oh, shush. When someone lays a turd in public, the thing to do is use a stick to push it unobtrusively into a small depression and cover it with dirt. Of course, where Bills fans are concerned, one might argue large depressions are more commonly ready to hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenty Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 number 1 in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 1333930077[/url]' post='2432907']Oh, shush. When someone lays a turd in public, the thing to do is use a stick to push it unobtrusively into a small depression and cover it with dirt. Of course, where Bills fans are concerned, one might argue large depressions are more commonly ready to hand Or put flares around it so everyone can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I put him around 18-25.Which just shows how awful the QBing is in the NFL right now. His last 9 games last year were sad---and he regressed.And don't give me the injuries excuses.I took that into account. Still a fan of the guy---he is tough,gets rid of the ball quickly,can run...and is in no way shape or form a wuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Just following up with the nit pickers. I should have said "best since Kelly" instead of 2nd best all time. I have no idea how Fitz or even Kelly would compare to Kemp and Ferg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eme123 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Things I've learned from this thread: -the reason fitz threw so many interceptions is because our defense sucks. But that has nothing to do with why his yards and tds were so high. -fitz is better than Eli. -Brady can't throw the deep ball without randy moss. -fitz can throw the deepball. Look at the one play vs the steelers. -Fitz is better than Jack Kemp and Joe Ferguson. -fitz is better the Andrew Luck. I can't wait to learn more!! LOL!! Oh the knowledge you gain from TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 there's 3 pages in this thread, and i'm sure 25 other pages worth of posts scattered across this board on this topic, so nothing i'm going to say is going to be ground breaking. but. these rankings are meaningless, not for the reasons that so typically spring to mind (which are all true,) but for the simple matter that they can change on a whim. for instance, if the bills make the playoffs, lose in the conference championship game, or even *gasp* win the super bowl, where does fitz rank then? im assuming higher than 24. but clearly for that to happen, so much more needs to fall into place - such as a good to great defense, a good to great offensive line, a favorable schedule, some fortuitous bounces of the ball, and less injuries than the buffalo bills typically accrue - ALL THINGS THAT RYAN FITZPATRICK CAN NOT CONTROL. now, if you were to take the 32 starting qbs in the NFL, throw in a few backups, line them up at a combine, and have a draft, (career statistics and accomplishments aside) would fitzy really go 24th? IDK. i find that hard to believe. i think his smarts, ability to read defense, and qualities as a leader outweigh mitigating factors like.. the "long ball." because, according to my eyes youtube.com/watch?v=34aat0isP0I&feature=fvst that's ryan fitzpatrick throwing a FREAKING frozen rope of a football FIFTY yards in the air, dead on target into stev13s hands, in a pressure packed instant, against the best team in the conference. so, truthfully, i just shake my head when people say fitz can't throw long. i would be curious if the 23 quarterbacks listed above him could make THAT throw in THAT situation. Fitz does throw a nice deep ball once in a while. The problem is that when Fitz uncorks a long ball, you have no idea what to expect. It might be a fluttering duck. It might travel to some place unintended. And it might actually land in the receivers hands. Sometimes it seems he's really straining and putting everything's he's got into the throw so it will have the distance. But his forced effort causes the ball to be erratic. Did you ever listen to him when he's wired? He grunts when he throws those frozen ropes. A stronger QB makes long throws look (& sound) effortless. I like Fitz. That means I just live with the fact that his long throws are rolls of the dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 i put Fitz around the 15th best QB. his pre broken ribs numbers were top 5......that's right, TOP 5 !! total QBR rankings after week #7: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7141925/nfl-week-7-total-qbr-season-leaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think its important to realize that these rankings are for the upcoming 2012 season.. it seems like a lot of people are complaining that there are rookies on this list because they didn't play in the NFL last year. Obviously if you're projecting 2012 you have to put these guys on the list and I think its fair that Luck and RGIII are ahead of Fitz. If anyone thinks Fitz deserves to be higher, why dont you post your new rankings and show us where he ends up? I'll start... 1. Brady 2. Rogers 3. Brees 4. P Manning 5. E Manning 6. Roethlisberger 7. Newton 8. Stafford 9. Rivers 10. Cutler 11. Ryan 12. Romo 13. Vick 14. Flacco 15. Schaub 16. Luck 17. RGIII 18. Dalton 19. Freeman 20. Bradford 21. Locker 22. Fitzpatrick 23. Palmer 24. Smith 25. Ponder 26. Sanchez 27. Cassel 28. Flynn 29. Moore 30. Skelton 31. McCoy 32. Henne To be clear.. this is a list for the 2012 season for the QBs I would want on my team going forward into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 1. Rodgers 2. Brady 3. Brees 4. E. Manning 5. P. Manning 6. Rivers 7. Luck 8. RG III 9. Rothlisberger 10. Vick 11. Flacco 12. Stafford 13. Ryan 14. Newton 15. FITZPATRICK 16. Schaub 17. Romo 18. Cutler 19. Bradford 20. Dalton 21. Smith 22. Freeman 23. Hasselbeck 24. Sanchez 25+ who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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