truth on hold Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That mike and mile guest analyst just keeps painting the signing in a very negative light. What an arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Soo did anyone else come in to work this morning and check this thread first thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Mario Williams A Free Agent FAP FAP FAP Mario Williams Visting The Buffalo Bills FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP Mario Williams A BUFFALO BILL! FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I'm loving the possibilities of the D-line with Mario Williams. From what I read, Wannstedt has his DE's pressuring the QB, playing the run, and not dropping into coverage. With playing next to Dareus & K. Williams, and how Wanny uses his DE's, I can see MW putting up career numbers in Buffalo. In regards to Kelsay, I feel he will benefit from the other 3 D-lineman. I can see Kelsay having 6-8 sacks for the year. I still would like to see Kelsay's position upgraded though. Kelsay is a very hard working player, is a team player, and will do whatever is asked of him, but he's not even an average pass rusher. While I would love to think of the possibilities of having Merriman-Dareus-K.Wiliiams-M.Williams together for obvious pass plays (which would be an absolute nightmare for the opposing offense), I can't because Merriman hasn't been able to stay healthy enough to make an impact. If Merriman does anything at all, it should be considered a bonus. Drayton Florence tweeted that Schoebel is thinking of coming out of retirement. I would definitely welcome him back on the D-line. My wish list for the draft: 1st round: LT, rounds 2-4: DE, WR, OLB (no particular order). Rest of the way: CB, TE, & O-line depth (no particular order). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I'm loving the possibilities of the D-line with Mario Williams. From what I read, Wannstedt has his DE's pressuring the QB, playing the run, and not dropping into coverage. With playing next to Dareus & K. Williams, and how Wanny uses his DE's, I can see MW putting up career numbers in Buffalo. In regards to Kelsay, I feel he will benefit from the other 3 D-lineman. I can see Kelsay having 6-8 sacks for the year. I still would like to see Kelsay's position upgraded though. Kelsay is a very hard working player, is a team player, and will do whatever is asked of him, but he's not even an average pass rusher. While I would love to think of the possibilities of having Merriman-Dareus-K.Wiliiams-M.Williams together for obvious pass plays (which would be an absolute nightmare for the opposing offense), I can't because Merriman hasn't been able to stay healthy enough to make an impact. If Merriman does anything at all, it should be considered a bonus. Drayton Florence tweeted that Schoebel is thinking of coming out of retirement. I would definitely welcome him back on the D-line. My wish list for the draft: 1st round: LT, rounds 2-4: DE, WR, OLB (no particular order). Rest of the way: CB, TE, & O-line depth (no particular order). Absolutely not true. Kelsay WILL benefit from having MW on the other side, but to dismiss his ability in his own right is doing him a disservice. No, he's not a superstar, but he will win significantly more one-on-one matchups than he loses, he's almost always in the right position, and he plays hard. Mark my words -- teams who leave Kelsay one-on-one against their RT because they're focused on Williams/Williams/Dareus are going to pay the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) They could be a 35 to 40 sack starting unit as follows M Williams 12 Dareus 9 K Williams 8 Kelsay 9 Key will be keeping them healthy Edited March 16, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Absolutely not true. Kelsay WILL benefit from having MW on the other side, but to dismiss his ability in his own right is doing him a disservice. No, he's not a superstar, but he will win significantly more one-on-one matchups than he loses, he's almost always in the right position, and he plays hard. Mark my words -- teams who leave Kelsay one-on-one against their RT because they're focused on Williams/Williams/Dareus are going to pay the price. Not disagreeing with you on Kelsay's work ethic. But he's never had more than 5 sacks in a season. With Wannstedt using his DE's to pressure the QB, play against the run, not dropping into coverage, and along with playing next to Dareus-KW-MW) could benefit Kelsay. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) You guys know why the Bills are looking towards better days? For the simple fact that for whatever reason we always receive hate from critics. It's our time to shine and the league can sense it now. Let me elaborate on the hate. Tuesday night when Mario visited the Bills it was a "shock". Tuesday night he was allegedly "leaving". Wednesday after touring Buffalo and visiting OBD he "had a flight scheduled to leave". Thursday we all know he "SIGNED". Brian Baldinger on Tuesday's NFL Total Access said a "good fit" for Mario would be the Bills lining up next to Dareus, Kyle, and Kelsay. Then on Thursday night's Total Access he said it was a wrong move for Buffalo to spend that much on Mario because he doesn't feel Mario is an "elite" player. That in NC they never finished better than 6-6 and that his first 4 years in the Texans they had one of the worst defenses in the league. He also went as far as saying he's not a game changer. I can never pin point every single time I think people hate our team but we can't deny the "feeling" that they do is always there. Maybe I'm being too proud (and I dont even live in Buffalo I live in NYC) but it's time to get this defense started especially with the draft coming up. I woke up today just as excited as I was yesterday. Congratulations to all. GO BILLS. Edited March 16, 2012 by DefenseWinzChampionshipz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Absolutely not true. Kelsay WILL benefit from having MW on the other side, but to dismiss his ability in his own right is doing him a disservice. No, he's not a superstar, but he will win significantly more one-on-one matchups than he loses, he's almost always in the right position, and he plays hard. Mark my words -- teams who leave Kelsay one-on-one against their RT because they're focused on Williams/Williams/Dareus are going to pay the price. Denver found that out big time on Christmas Eve this past season. And we didn't even have Super Mario on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Absolutely not true. Kelsay WILL benefit from having MW on the other side, but to dismiss his ability in his own right is doing him a disservice. No, he's not a superstar, but he will win significantly more one-on-one matchups than he loses, he's almost always in the right position, and he plays hard. Mark my words -- teams who leave Kelsay one-on-one against their RT because they're focused on Williams/Williams/Dareus are going to pay the price. I agree. He wont be an All-Pro, but he will be very solid. And you cant have All-pros at every position, you need those solid role players too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 They could be a 35 to 40 sack starting unit as follows M Williams 12 Dareus 9 K Williams 8 Kelsay 9 Key will be keeping them healthy Let's not get carried away. Those numbers are off the charts. I would guess that the NYG whose pass rush is great, didn't come close to this last year(in terms of the 4 best players on the DL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Don't want to wish spring and summer to go by, but I can't wait for training camp! This is exactly how I feel right now. Torn between wanting to enjoy summer, and just wanting to get it over with so I can get to the home opener and watch this team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 They could be a 35 to 40 sack starting unit as follows M Williams 12 Dareus 9 K Williams 8 Kelsay 9 Key will be keeping them healthy I don't care how you look at it, this DL is freaking formidable. Other than Kelsay, there isn't a single guy that doesn't demand a double team on almost every play. You can't play seven OL so good luck. We're starting to build some depth with players like Heard and hopefully Troupe, Edwards and Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 You guys know why the Bills are looking towards better days? For the simple fact that for whatever reason we always receive hate from critics. It's our time to shine and the league can sense it now. Let me elaborate on the hate. Tuesday night when Mario visited the Bills it was a "shock". Tuesday night he was allegedly "leaving". Wednesday after touring Buffalo and visiting OBD he "had a flight scheduled to leave". Thursday we all know he "SIGNED". Brian Baldinger on Tuesday's NFL Total Access said a "good fit" for Mario would be the Bills lining up next to Dareus, Kyle, and Kelsay. Then on Thursday night's Total Access he said it was a wrong move for Buffalo to spend that much on Mario because he doesn't feel Mario is an "elite" player. That in NC they never finished better than 6-6 and that his first 4 years in the Texans that they had one of the worst defenses in the league. He also went as far as saying he's not a game changer. I can never pin point every single time I think people hate our team but we can't dent that the "feeling" that they do is always there. Maybe I'm being too prideful (and I dont even live in Buffalo I live in NYC) but it's time to get this defense started especially with the draft coming up. I woke up today just as excited as I was yesterday. Congratulations to all. GO BILLS. I saw that last night on the NFL network. What a Negative Nancy!! IMO, MW will put up career numbers in Buffalo, with playing alongside KW & dareus, plus with how Wannstedt uses his DE's (not dropping into coverage)> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 You guys know why the Bills are looking towards better days? For the simple fact that for whatever reason we always receive hate from critics. It's our time to shine and the league can sense it now. Let me elaborate on the hate. Tuesday night when Mario visited the Bills it was a "shock". Tuesday night he was allegedly "leaving". Wednesday after touring Buffalo and visiting OBD he "had a flight scheduled to leave". Thursday we all know he "SIGNED". Brian Baldinger on Tuesday's NFL Total Access said a "good fit" for Mario would be the Bills lining up next to Dareus, Kyle, and Kelsay. Then on Thursday night's Total Access he said it was a wrong move for Buffalo to spend that much on Mario because he doesn't feel Mario is an "elite" player. That in NC they never finished better than 6-6 and that his first 4 years in the Texans they had one of the worst defenses in the league. He also went as far as saying he's not a game changer. I can never pin point every single time I think people hate our team but we can't deny the "feeling" that they do is always there. Maybe I'm being too proud (and I dont even live in Buffalo I live in NYC) but it's time to get this defense started especially with the draft coming up. I woke up today just as excited as I was yesterday. Congratulations to all. GO BILLS. Welcome to the board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I don't care how you look at it, this DL is freaking formidable. Other than Kelsay, there isn't a single guy that doesn't demand a double team on almost every play. You can't play seven OL so good luck. We're starting to build some depth with players like Heard and hopefully Troupe, Edwards and Johnson. I agree. Those guys who were so-so starters last year will be quality backups next season IF the starters stay healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Welcome to the board! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Agreed Joe, I'm actually very content with our D-Line depth right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedido Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) ummmmm did you hear that? never mind, it was brady soiling himself GO BILLS! Edited March 16, 2012 by Fedido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 They could be a 35 to 40 sack starting unit as follows M Williams 12 Dareus 9 K Williams 8 Kelsay 9 Key will be keeping them healthy Mario 12 Dareus 6 Williams 6 Kelsay 7 This would be a great year IMO. Kelsay's previous career high is 5.5, so 7 would be great. Pressures might not be an official stat, and it doesn't come up in the box-score, but that's what this group is gonna do. I can see a lot more throw-aways this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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