mountainwampus Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Sour grapes. They should have called a timeout no matter what down it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 If that happened, it's probably because the scoreboard operator thought the first down play resulted in another 1st down (which I thought it should have and that Boldin got a poor spot). Regardless, the Ravens coaching staff should be able to count to 4 without help from the scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I love the comment can you really put anything past them?....lol...If down indicator was one down behind for the drive or series it isn't at ALL unreasonable to assume that it may have had a negative impact and effected play calling. Players and coaches juts like all of us have gotten used to technology. You can see players look up at the big board on break out runs like it is a rear mirror. Is it that unreasonable to think that they might look at the down and distance markers that are lit up with that info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 AS someone who is an administrator at football games, it is a VERY easy mistake to be made. It shouldn't happen, of course, but that is the definition of a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) The patriots had nothing to do with this, any assertion otherwise is just conspiracy theory BS. Every single fan watching at home knew what down it was, the coaches knew what down it was, Billy Cundiff must have been too busy listening to Hanson on his iPod to pay attention to the actual game. Besides, shouldn't the ST coach be making sure his players are ready for the most important play of the game? The worst part about this whole thing is that Baltimore had a time out...If there was ANY confusion on the most important play of the game why not use it? Instead the game ended with it still on the board. The blame for this play can be split equally between Harbaugh (and the ST's coach) and Cundiff... Edited January 24, 2012 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) If the player and team knows what down it is based on the scoreboard. Then the team and players are morons and deserve to lose. There is a big number right on top of the chains 1-4, so like um, there is no freaking excuse. They should have called a timout anyway. There was no reason to rush. That was doubly stupid. Edited January 24, 2012 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The patriots had nothing to do with this, any assertion otherwise is just conspiracy theory BS. Every single fan watching at home knew what down it was, the coaches knew what down it was, Billy Cundiff must have been too busy listening to Hanson on his iPod to pay attention to the actual game. Besides, shouldn't the ST coach be making sure his players are ready for the most important play of the game? The worst part about this whole thing is that Baltimore had a time out...If there was ANY confusion on the most important play of the game why not use it? Instead the game ended with it still on the board. The blame for this play can be split equally between Harbaugh (and the ST's coach) and Cundiff... Agreed. They were rushing to get lined up for the kick because they let the play clock run down. With a timeout in your pocket there was no excuse not to slow things down and get it right. Hang this one on the ST coach or HC (although when the TV announcer put the hex on the kicker by saying something like "he's made 18 or 18 in the 4th quarter this season" I knew he was going to miss) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The patriots had nothing to do with this, any assertion otherwise is just conspiracy theory BS. Every single fan watching at home knew what down it was, the coaches knew what down it was, Billy Cundiff must have been too busy listening to Hanson on his iPod to pay attention to the actual game. Besides, shouldn't the ST coach be making sure his players are ready for the most important play of the game? The worst part about this whole thing is that Baltimore had a time out...If there was ANY confusion on the most important play of the game why not use it? Instead the game ended with it still on the board. The blame for this play can be split equally between Harbaugh (and the ST's coach) and Cundiff... Agreed. I hate New England as much as the next guy but seriously this is grasping at straws. They still had a timeout left & Cundiff should of had his head in the game & knew what down it was. I mean wasn't he paying attention? After all it was only the AFC championship game. If I am Newsome, I cut Cundiff like yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I was so confused as I watched Cundiff rush up to his place and not have a moment to gather him. Not calling a timeout there is terrible. I kick he needs to make even if rushing onto the field, but better to take a timeout or even a delay than to kick it without everybody being 100% ready. Glad it wasn't us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) The patriots had nothing to do with this, any assertion otherwise is just conspiracy theory BS. Every single fan watching at home knew what down it was, the coaches knew what down it was, Billy Cundiff must have been too busy listening to Hanson on his iPod to pay attention to the actual game. Besides, shouldn't the ST coach be making sure his players are ready for the most important play of the game? The worst part about this whole thing is that Baltimore had a time out...If there was ANY confusion on the most important play of the game why not use it? Instead the game ended with it still on the board. The blame for this play can be split equally between Harbaugh (and the ST's coach) and Cundiff... If I am Harbaughs boss I would need a pretty good explanation on what happened there and how it won't ever happen again. Drops happen, missed kicks happen. Looking all out of sorts and disorganized on an all or nothing play that determines whether you keep playing for the superbowl or get disqualified? Edited January 24, 2012 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I still blame Lee Evans! Ralph is still cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 As much as I hate the cheating Pats, and love a good conspiracy theory, this is still all on the Ravens, Harbaugh, and Cundiff. I guarantee SOMEONE involved with the Ravens playcalling knew exactly what down it was. Still dont understand why they didnt call timeout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankReichComeback Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Forget it ---- no excuses. Cundiff screwed up and pretty much signaled the end of his NFL career. 32 yards? Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 "When Cataldi asked Brown if he thought the Patriots did it it on purpose to gain an advantage, Brown replied, “I don’t think you can rule anything out in New England, can you?" Hopfully those of you here [many] that can't make a post without throwing in a the Pats* cheated remark note how cry baby that sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Sour grapes. They should have called a timeout no matter what down it was. That was an enormous coach(ing) mistake. Second place award goes to the kicker, for not calling a timeout when everyone clearly was rushing too get the kick off. It is something that should only happen in pre-season garbage time field goal trys. Even then it shouldn't happen. Cost them a trip too the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 "When Cataldi asked Brown if he thought the Patriots did it it on purpose to gain an advantage, Brown replied, “I don’t think you can rule anything out in New England, can you?" Hopfully those of you here [many] that can't make a post without throwing in a the Pats* cheated remark note how cry baby that sounds. I don't waste much time on the pats and spygate (unless i'm busting on one of my friends, anyway), but the flip side of the argument is that had BB and the boys not spygated, they'd have the moral high ground here. As it stands, they earned the comment. But you're right, it's on the Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 New England has a long history of "funny" things happening at home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVP8JyEXujM&feature=youtube_gdata_player And I dont mean "ha ha" funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 As much as I hate the cheating Pats, and love a good conspiracy theory, this is still all on the Ravens, Harbaugh, and Cundiff. I guarantee SOMEONE involved with the Ravens playcalling knew exactly what down it was. Still dont understand why they didnt call timeout... The team surely did. Cundiff stands back behind the crowd warming up. He isn't watching the game or possibly able to see the sticks. He looks up to the board. I'm amazed there's nobody hooked to his hip to make sure nothing happens like this but I'm not shocked hearing the story. You'd think a former special teams coach would be better prepped for this very moment. Agreed. I hate New England as much as the next guy but seriously this is grasping at straws. They still had a timeout left & Cundiff should of had his head in the game & knew what down it was. I mean wasn't he paying attention? After all it was only the AFC championship game. If I am Newsome, I cut Cundiff like yesterday. I'd personally rather my kicker preps and has routines than watches and cheerleads. I almost want his head out of the game and someone telling him when it's his time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 WTF? This is one of the most ridulous excuses I've ever heard. It rates right up there with the dog ate my homework. The bottom line is Cundiff has achip shot field goal to tie with under 20 seconds to go. Make it and stay alive. The score board lights could be out or flashing "F U Cundiff" and the fans all mooning him, what difference does it make? You got an easy kick to stay alive... and you choked. If it were a 50 yarder, no one would say anything if it had been missed from that distance, but 32 flippin yards? That odds of missing a field goal at that distance is probably less than 5 percent. It takes three to tango on a filed goal attempt. The snap was good, the hold was good, but the kick sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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