DC Tom Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 You mean because the world should remain static and nothing should ever improve? It's more ridiculous that people can't comprehend change and that every situation isn't exactly the same. He may have meant something more like the pace of progress is rather shocking, looking back. I do know that I sometimes look back 20 years, and am shocked at how things have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 He may have meant something more like the pace of progress is rather shocking, looking back. I do know that I sometimes look back 20 years, and am shocked at how things have changed. I actually had this discussion with my brothers the other day. I had 3 siblings and my dad used to drive us around in a beat up le sabre. My brother now has 5 kids and he feels that there's no way he could get around without an Escalade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I actually had this discussion with my brothers the other day. I had 3 siblings and my dad used to drive us around in a beat up le sabre. My brother now has 5 kids and he feels that there's no way he could get around without an Escalade Of course nowadays in the States, you have to have the young ones in child/booster seats, everyone needs a seat belt, and there are probably states where you can't have the kid in the front seat until he's x height or y years of age. (No data on how it is up in Canuckland, but I'd expect it to be similar.) If the kids are young enough, I could definitely see something with an extra rear seat being necessary to cart around the entire brood. Back in the good old days, you could easily fit 4 or 5 kids and 2 adults in a midsized sedan. If you had a pickup truck, you could bring the kids' whole team with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Anyone catch the fact that she owned a gun and a cell phone? People who own cell phones should automaticallly be denied welfare/food stamps. That's why Sprint created Assurant Wireless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Of course nowadays in the States, you have to have the young ones in child/booster seats, everyone needs a seat belt, and there are probably states where you can't have the kid in the front seat until he's x height or y years of age. (No data on how it is up in Canuckland, but I'd expect it to be similar.) If the kids are young enough, I could definitely see something with an extra rear seat being necessary to cart around the entire brood. California just extended its ages/height for booster seats beginning Jan 1. It had been age 6 or 60 pounds and they were out, but it is now extended to age 8 or 4'9" before they can ditch the booster seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 God, I was 11 before I was taller than 4'9". I ended up 5'4". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 California just extended its ages/height for booster seats beginning Jan 1. It had been age 6 or 60 pounds and they were out, but it is now extended to age 8 or 4'9" before they can ditch the booster seat. Does that include drivers? 'Cause I want to see VABills driving a car in a booster seat. And to think back to when I was 4...booster seats? We used to just lay across the deck under the rear window of the Chrysler. Between riding in cars, Jarts, chemistry sets, and playing in the neighborhood unaccompanied by adults, I figure that by today's standards I statistically died twice before I turned 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 California just extended its ages/height for booster seats beginning Jan 1. It had been age 6 or 60 pounds and they were out, but it is now extended to age 8 or 4'9" before they can ditch the booster seat. WHAT?!?!? They STILL allow those horrible, fossil fuel-burning, planet-murdering devices known as "cars" to operate??? When is your state going to get its act together!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 And to think back to when I was 4...booster seats? We used to just lay across the deck under the rear window of the Chrysler. Between riding in cars, Jarts, chemistry sets, and playing in the neighborhood unaccompanied by adults, I figure that by today's standards I statistically died twice before I turned 12. We used to have the Ford Country Squire where the back area had two seats you could open facing each other. Here Granted, we never had a picnic back there, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 And to think back to when I was 4...booster seats? We used to just lay across the deck under the rear window of the Chrysler. Between riding in cars, Jarts, chemistry sets, and playing in the neighborhood unaccompanied by adults, I figure that by today's standards I statistically died twice before I turned 12. I'm borrowing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Does that include drivers? 'Cause I want to see VABills driving a car in a booster seat. And to think back to when I was 4...booster seats? We used to just lay across the deck under the rear window of the Chrysler. Between riding in cars, Jarts, chemistry sets, and playing in the neighborhood unaccompanied by adults, I figure that by today's standards I statistically died twice before I turned 12. Can't forget model rockets and b-b guns. Throw those in and it probably ups to 3.5 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) We used to have the Ford Country Squire where the back area had two seats you could open facing each other. Here Granted, we never had a picnic back there, but... We had the Vista Cruiser where you actually could have a picnic in the back there was so much space. I think it was a '71. The 3d row had you perched up high and at a funny angle, and there was a small 4th row seat that faced the rear window. Usually on long trips (down safe roads like the Pennsy Turnpike), we folded them both down and had a dog pile in the back. The best part was if someone ripped a fart you could just roll down that huge back window and then hang out the back and wave at truckers. And of course, rest stop lunches always happened on the tailgate. Can't forget model rockets and b-b guns. Throw those in and it probably ups to 3.5 times. Plus, riding bikes or dirt bikes with no helmet, drinking out of the garden hose all summer (unless Mom made some Kool-Aid or Hi-C), climbing trees, and going Trick or Treating for hours without a single adult anywhere outside. . Edited December 9, 2011 by KD in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Can't forget model rockets and b-b guns. Throw those in and it probably ups to 3.5 times. Need a permit for model rockets in my county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I actually had this discussion with my brothers the other day. I had 3 siblings and my dad used to drive us around in a beat up le sabre. My brother now has 5 kids and he feels that there's no way he could get around without an Escalade We took the 8 of us (mom, dad and six kids) on a trip to the 1,000 Islands in 1968 in our Ford LTD. My sister was a baby. Child's car seat? Seat belts? :w00t: It's amazing we're all still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Does that include drivers? 'Cause I want to see VABills driving a car in a booster seat. And to think back to when I was 4...booster seats? We used to just lay across the deck under the rear window of the Chrysler. Between riding in cars, Jarts, chemistry sets, and playing in the neighborhood unaccompanied by adults, I figure that by today's standards I statistically died twice before I turned 12. Well, that was way before the booster seat lobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 We had the Vista Cruiser where you actually could have a picnic in the back there was so much space. I think it was a '71. The 3d row had you perched up high and at a funny angle, and there was a small 4th row seat that faced the rear window. Usually on long trips (down safe roads like the Pennsy Turnpike), we folded them both down and had a dog pile in the back. The best part was if someone ripped a fart you could just roll down that huge back window and then hang out the back and wave at truckers. . I wrapped one of those around a Telephone pole back in 74' Or how about riding in this convertible sitting on top of the back seat doing 70 heading down to PA. All the way!! http://www.ycc.nu/div.foto/Delta88.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Need a permit for model rockets in my county. You still live close enough to see the Pentagon? Even if you are, that's a TAD excessive. Or do they really expect a bunch of 12 year olds to be able to down a plane? Have they banned radio controlled planes also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 You still live close enough to see the Pentagon? Even if you are, that's a TAD excessive. Or do they really expect a bunch of 12 year olds to be able to down a plane? Have they banned radio controlled planes also? No, I'm up in the Socialist Republic of Rockville, MD now. I once got a $50 ticket for accidentally mixing a plastic bag in the recycling, and another $50 ticket for having one wheel of my own car off my own driveway and in my own lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I wrapped one of those around a Telephone pole back in 74' Or how about riding in this convertible sitting on top of the back seat doing 70 heading down to PA. All the way!! http://www.ycc.nu/div.foto/Delta88.JPG Speaking of the 70s, we were driving this gem in the Cape last summer (exact same car, color and everything), with my young nephews bouncing around the back. We were laughing about car seat laws and how my brother in law would probably need to talk pretty fast if we got pulled over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 No, I'm up in the Socialist Republic of Rockville, MD now. I once got a $50 ticket for accidentally mixing a plastic bag in the recycling, and another $50 ticket for having one wheel of my own car off my own driveway and in my own lawn. That's a smidge excessive. In the town next to mine, people can't have RV's, boats, etc. in their "front yards." A friend of mine owns ~10 acres with a dirt path into the back of his land. The town got on his case because he had an RV about 50' down this path. With the trees and brush around it, you could barely even see the thing from the road. So he started 'working' on his house. He's had scaffolding up around it for the past 2 years. I'd guess he'll finish the product sometime in the next century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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