3rdnlng Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/16/8838779-gingrich-cant-say-how-much-he-netted-from-freddie-consulting So, Newt's company gets 1.6 million over 10 years in consulting fees from Freddie Mac and that's a scandal? Maybe the scandal should be that they didn't listen to him? Or maybe the scandal should be that Barney Frank protected his boyfriend's program at Freddie Mac contributing to the collapse of our economy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/16/8838779-gingrich-cant-say-how-much-he-netted-from-freddie-consulting So, Newt's company gets 1.6 million over 10 years in consulting fees from Freddie Mac and that's a scandal? Maybe the scandal should be that they didn't listen to him? Or maybe the scandal should be that Barney Frank protected his boyfriend's program at Freddie Mac contributing to the collapse of our economy? Newt worked for that evil organization? That's horrible! He SHOULD join Barney Frank as a member of the group of people not running for president! But I hope our "Housing Historian" stays around awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/16/8838779-gingrich-cant-say-how-much-he-netted-from-freddie-consulting So, Newt's company gets 1.6 million over 10 years in consulting fees from Freddie Mac and that's a scandal? Maybe the scandal should be that they didn't listen to him? Or maybe the scandal should be that Barney Frank protected his boyfriend's program at Freddie Mac contributing to the collapse of our economy? Wait, I'm not sure now, which news outlets are part of the left-wing media conspiracy? 'Cause I saw him getting crucified for this $1.6 million thing on Fox News this afternoon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 Newt worked for that evil organization? That's horrible! He SHOULD join Barney Frank as a member of the group of people not running for president! But I hope our "Housing Historian" stays around awhile Did you read the article, or as usual did you just decide to assume things? What did you think about the vast sums of money that Freddie Mac donated to NAMBLA even after Newt advised them to stop immediately? Wait, I'm not sure now, which news outlets are part of the left-wing media conspiracy? 'Cause I saw him getting crucified for this $1.6 million thing on Fox News this afternoon too. Why should anyone criticize him for a consulting contract that paid him $160,000 a year? Maybe the scandal should be centered around the fact that Fredie Mac didn't listen to him? BTW, who was doing the crucifying at Fox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Why should anyone criticize him for a consulting contract that paid him $160,000 a year? Maybe the scandal should be centered around the fact that Fredie Mac didn't listen to him? BTW, who was doing the crucifying at Fox? It was one of those blonde bimbos. Can't remember which. I do remember that she was a definite "yes" though. And I'm not answering your first question because I never asserted such a thing. Reading comprehension FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headwest Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 The liberal attack machine automatically kicks in when anyone sniffs the top approval scale. Bachman then Perry then Cain and now Newt, the difference is the way Newt will handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 It was one of those blonde bimbos. Can't remember which. I do remember that she was a definite "yes" though. And I'm not answering your first question because I never asserted such a thing. Reading comprehension FTW. I wasn't claiming that you did assert that. Fox does have a lot of hotties and surprisingly enough most are intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamCody Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 The liberal attack machine automatically kicks in when anyone sniffs the top approval scale. Bachman then Perry then Cain and now Newt, the difference is the way Newt will handle it. Or maybe they're just terrible candidates. Whats more believable, a vast left-wing conspiracy to destroy the right, or a few people not being fit for president? It's a small sample size, but there really isn't a viable presidential candidate in the group for a variety of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Or maybe they're just terrible candidates. Whats more believable, a vast left-wing conspiracy to destroy the right, or a few people not being fit for president? It's a small sample size, but there really isn't a viable presidential candidate in the group for a variety of reasons. Does the left have any viable candidates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamCody Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Does the left have any viable candidates? It depends on who you ask. There is no doubt that many feel that Obama has mismanaged this administration so much that anyone would be better than him. I haven't made up my mind yet and it really depends on who the eventual Republican candidate is. But I really can't see myself being entirely happy about whoever I vote for in 2012. but that's the nature of democracy, isn't it? Everyone feels either somewhat shortchanged or completely slighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/16/8838779-gingrich-cant-say-how-much-he-netted-from-freddie-consulting So, Newt's company gets 1.6 million over 10 years in consulting fees from Freddie Mac and that's a scandal? Maybe the scandal should be that they didn't listen to him? Or maybe the scandal should be that Barney Frank protected his boyfriend's program at Freddie Mac contributing to the collapse of our economy? Come on now, Newt is part of the corrupt Washington machine. I just found out about this and I have no intention of ever voting for Newt Gingrich. It's a shame that Palin didn't run. She'd be kicking all of these bozo's rear ends by now. If she's not electable over an inept corrupt socialist like Obama then this country truly is screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 It depends on who you ask. There is no doubt that many feel that Obama has mismanaged this administration so much that anyone would be better than him. I haven't made up my mind yet and it really depends on who the eventual Republican candidate is. But I really can't see myself being entirely happy about whoever I vote for in 2012. but that's the nature of democracy, isn't it? Everyone feels either somewhat shortchanged or completely slighted. So, you would consider voting for Obama again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Ok, without a doubt the scrutiny that conservative candidates receive from the media isn't comparable to candidates from the left, but Newt was acting like a hypocrite. I mean he called out Barney and Dodd for their ties to Freddy Mac and then we find out he was a paid consultant for the very same companies he has been lambasting. And 1billsfan, paaaaleeeeesssseeeee. Palin is a very weak candidate, who would have no shot ever, I mean ever in beating Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 It depends on who you ask. There is no doubt that many feel that Obama has mismanaged this administration so much that anyone would be better than him. I haven't made up my mind yet and it really depends on who the eventual Republican candidate is. But I really can't see myself being entirely happy about whoever I vote for in 2012. but that's the nature of democracy, isn't it? Everyone feels either somewhat shortchanged or completely slighted. Mismanaged? You first have to manage something before you can mismanage it. Obama is the very definition of an empty suit who's entire career has been one long permanent vacation. He doesn't like to work and he leaves the decision making to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 But I really can't see myself being entirely happy about whoever I vote for in 2012. Welcome to my 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 And 1billsfan, paaaaleeeeesssseeeee. Palin is a very weak candidate, who would have no shot ever, I mean ever in beating Obama. That's what the liberal media wanted you to think. Truth is, she'd have won the nomination and crushed Obama in the general. Obama is the worst president this country has ever had. The media got him elected, they got the Obamacare passed and then they successfully brainwashed the American people into thinking Palin was nothing but a walking punchline. Do I like Palin's folksy, "aw shucks" personality? Not particularly. But she'd have turned Washington on it's head and that's what we need more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/16/8838779-gingrich-cant-say-how-much-he-netted-from-freddie-consulting So, Newt's company gets 1.6 million over 10 years in consulting fees from Freddie Mac and that's a scandal? Maybe the scandal should be that they didn't listen to him? Or maybe the scandal should be that Barney Frank protected his boyfriend's program at Freddie Mac contributing to the collapse of our economy? Welcome to American politics. Newt was involved in a scandal with Freddie Mac and President Obama is a socialist plant, from the old Russian Czars......At least it's entertainment....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Welcome to American politics. Newt was involved in a scandal with Freddie Mac and President Obama is a socialist plant, from the old Russian Czars......At least it's entertainment....... Dear Mr. Yesbut: Please explain what scandal Newt was involved with. His company had a contract with Freddie Mac to do some consulting. His company was paid 1.6 million over ten years for that consulting. He advised them that they were screwing up and they did not take his advice. Where is the scandal? Two things: Stating that Obama is a socialist plant from the old Russian Czars is an assinine comment worthy of a Conner Award. Were the Czars socialist? Are you ever going to take a stand on anything? The reason I call you Yesbut is because that is what you invariably say. You equivocate on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Welcome to American politics. Newt was involved in a scandal with Freddie Mac and President Obama is a socialist plant, from the old Russian Czars......At least it's entertainment....... Speaking of Russians I have no better place to put this than here. I was listening to Alan Colmes last night on the way home from work. This guy really gets my blood boiling. He had Bill Clinton on (which I'm sorry I missed) and a guy calls in to bash Clinton for allowing Russian General to come to the base he was stationed on and inspect a tank (M1A2?) and he thought that was a crazy thing to do seeing it was relatively new. Colmes said "But the Russians are our allies". The guy said "yeah, but not in 1995". Colmes replies "Yeah, but what year is it now?" and hangs up on the guy. WTF?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Dear Mr. Yesbut: Please explain what scandal Newt was involved with. His company had a contract with Freddie Mac to do some consulting. His company was paid 1.6 million over ten years for that consulting. He advised them that they were screwing up and they did not take his advice. Where is the scandal? Two things: Stating that Obama is a socialist plant from the old Russian Czars is an assinine comment worthy of a Conner Award. Were the Czars socialist? Are you ever going to take a stand on anything? The reason I call you Yesbut is because that is what you invariably say. You equivocate on everything. Dear Mr. I get stepped on when I walk outside by the same people that took my lunch money in school If you couldn't see the sarcasm in that statement, I can't help you. It is a clear fact that our politicians do the wonderful job they do, because of the partisan divide we have. That statement was meant to be nonsense. President Obama is not the socialist that the right makes him out to be and Gingrich isn't the scandalous clod the left makes him out to be (although the hair is terrible). I still don't know what to make of President Bush- he increased spending to include two wars and numerous other things and decreased taxes- and be 'he", I mean the whole government- not him. If it seems like I equivocate on everything, it is because being successful will include a delicate balance of ideas from the right and left- if one side's ideas would fix everything, there would only be one side. If it makes you feel any better, my family thinks I am right wing....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Im sure its just conicidence that the minute that Perry, Cain and Gingrich sniffed the top spot in polling, these stories came to light. PLACE YOU BETS NOW..... How long after Romney takes the top spot does another flood of stories titled "Concerns about Romney's Mormonism" hit the beach? I say two days. Edited November 17, 2011 by RkFast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Im sure its just conicidence that the minute that Perry, Cain and Gingrich sniffed the top spot in polling, these stories came to light. PLACE YOU BETS NOW..... How long after Romney takes the top spot does another flood of stories titled "Concerns about Romney's Mormonism" hit the beach? I say two days. Sad, but probably true. As I said- American politics is a gladiator's pit and everything goes, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Sad, but probably true. As I said- American World politics is a gladiator's pit and everything goes, unfortunately. Corrected for accuracy. And it has always been and always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Dear Mr. I get stepped on when I walk outside by the same people that took my lunch money in school If you couldn't see the sarcasm in that statement, I can't help you. It is a clear fact that our politicians do the wonderful job they do, because of the partisan divide we have. That statement was meant to be nonsense. President Obama is not the socialist that the right makes him out to be and Gingrich isn't the scandalous clod the left makes him out to be (although the hair is terrible). I still don't know what to make of President Bush- he increased spending to include two wars and numerous other things and decreased taxes- and be 'he", I mean the whole government- not him. If it seems like I equivocate on everything, it is because being successful will include a delicate balance of ideas from the right and left- if one side's ideas would fix everything, there would only be one side. If it makes you feel any better, my family thinks I am right wing....... Still equivocating I see. You are right, your statement was nonsense. You say you intended it to be. I say you should work on your sarcasm skills then. As far as the socialism/Czar thing---that's just bizarre, and yes Obama is a socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Sad, but probably true. As I said- American politics is a gladiator's pit and everything goes, unfortunately. It wasn't for Obama. I bet the percentage of Americans who voted for Obama and knew he voted "present" in the Illinois state legislature 129 times was less than 1 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Still equivocating I see. You are right, your statement was nonsense. You say you intended it to be. I say you should work on your sarcasm skills then. As far as the socialism/Czar thing---that's just bizarre, and yes Obama is a socialist. Are you implying that you dislike socialism? Thats funny, on a football board. Corrected for accuracy. And it has always been and always will be. I agree with you 100%, but I don't care what goes on in other countries- just ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Are you implying that you dislike socialism? Thats funny, on a football board. I agree with you 100%, but I don't care what goes on in other countries- just ours. Now you've done it. Bringing up football on PPP is worse than bringing up politics on TSW. I see where you are going and I'm not going to get sucked into the National Socialistic Football League thing. Edited November 17, 2011 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Now you've done it. Bringing up football on PPP is worse than bringing up politics on TSW. I see where you are going and I'm not going to get sucked into the National Socialistic Football League thing. Not just football, but all pro sports in general. They are all anti-capitalist. Socialism isn't what is best for our country, but it is downgraded by people in our country more than it should be. No economic system is evil- they all can be useful in certain settings. People just like to downgrade what they are told not to like- just like republicans are tirelessly berated in my family gathering.....I won't even get into that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I agree with you 100%, but I don't care what goes on in other countries- just ours. My point was really that as I said it's always been that way and always will be. If that really bothers you that much I suggest you no longer pay attention to politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 My point was really that as I said it's always been that way and always will be. If that really bothers you that much I suggest you no longer pay attention to politics. I hear you- but it's a bit too important just to ignore. It would be nice if they didn't cross the line so often......we can hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Im sure its just conicidence that the minute that Perry, Cain and Gingrich sniffed the top spot in polling, these stories came to light. PLACE YOU BETS NOW..... How long after Romney takes the top spot does another flood of stories titled "Concerns about Romney's Mormonism" hit the beach? I say two days. Romney HAS been at the top, and the reason why he isn't quite as savaged as the rest is well.... Because he is a much more polished politician, and he isn't as susceptible to the gaffes as the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headwest Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Or maybe they're just terrible candidates. Whats more believable, a vast left-wing conspiracy to destroy the right, or a few people not being fit for president? It's a small sample size, but there really isn't a viable presidential candidate in the group for a variety of reasons. I don't know.....there were a whole lot of liberals extremely concerned about Cain's "victims" a week or two ago. Since Cain went down a few points their concern for the "victims" seemed to have disappeared. And now Newts consulting fees are driving the news, the same fess that have been known about and have not been a concern for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 So, you would consider voting for Obama again? If Huntsman or Romney doesn't get the nomination, I'd vote for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamCody Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I don't know.....there were a whole lot of liberals extremely concerned about Cain's "victims" a week or two ago. Since Cain went down a few points their concern for the "victims" seemed to have disappeared. And now Newts consulting fees are driving the news, the same fess that have been known about and have not been a concern for years. Right, but couldn't you just as easily blame this trend on a specious media only out for the latest ratings-gathering scandal as a left-wing conspiracy aimed at bringing down the right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/16/8838779-gingrich-cant-say-how-much-he-netted-from-freddie-consulting So, Newt's company gets 1.6 million over 10 years in consulting fees from Freddie Mac and that's a scandal? Maybe the scandal should be that they didn't listen to him? Or maybe the scandal should be that Barney Frank protected his boyfriend's program at Freddie Mac contributing to the collapse of our economy? 1) You begin with the Liberal Media Conspiracy 2) Then you parrot Newt's line of defense verbatim 3) Then you toss in a gratuitous attack on Barney Frank, making sure to make note his sexual orintation in the process How are you not a tool or a troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 1) You begin with the Liberal Media Conspiracy 2) Then you parrot Newt's line of defense verbatim 3) Then you toss in a gratuitous attack on Barney Frank, making sure to make note his sexual orintation in the process How are you not a tool or a troll? Or you could have simply pointed out that Newt being "the latest" to be attacked by the "liberal media" is insanely stupid, since he's been attacked by them since the mid-90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Newt is a fraud. Find another scapegoat company to blame cons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) I wasn't claiming that you did assert that. Fox does have a lot of hotties and surprisingly enough most are intelligent. I think that his point is well taken. Fox gave some pub to this issue. But it's always the "lib media." Surprised Magox hasn't jumped in with his "boogie man" theory. Oh, that's right, you're advocating for conservatives and the "truth" is not an 'a priori,' nor is it objective. Its pendulum only swings in a conservative direction. Just kidding... Edited November 18, 2011 by Juror#8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 I think that his point is well taken. Fox gave some pub to this issue. But it's always the "lib media." Surprised Magox hasn't jumped in with his "boogie man" theory. Oh, that's right, you're advocating for conservatives and the "truth" is not an 'a priori,' nor is it objective. Its pendulum only swings in a conservative direction. Just kidding... I don't know what was said on Fox or in what context it was said. It could have been Alan Colmes mumbling something about Newt or one of their other liberal guests saying something in a panel discussion. I guess all I'm pointing out is that the alphabet media is taking turns jumping on whoever seems to be the flavor of the day for the Republicans. They appear to want to dirty everyone of them. If it was the left that was going through this process they wouldn't be anywhere near as harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 1) You begin with the Liberal Media Conspiracy 2) Then you parrot Newt's line of defense verbatim 3) Then you toss in a gratuitous attack on Barney Frank, making sure to make note his sexual orintation in the process How are you not a tool or a troll? You are making schit up again, but when you have nothing I guess that's your only option. I began with the Liberal Media feeding frenzy. I defended Newt in my own words with my own opinion. I mentioned Barney Frank's misdeeds that included protecting a failed program that his boyfriend was involved with and said that was part of the real scandal. Please tell me that you are unable to breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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