truth on hold Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) This seems the opposite to me: "Ralph Wilson doesn't have a problem spending money on high priced free agents. He also doesn't mind playing(sic) his current players to keep them in Buffalo. The biggest criticism on Wilson is his apparent inability to spend money on a decent and veteran coach." Maybe this was true in the Jauron-era, but it's my understanding he was willing to pay Cowher or Shanahan as much as they'd get anywhere else. Neither wanted to go to Buffalo (Cowher not surprising, Shanahan thankfully.) Over the years Bills have had some higher profile coaches like Saban, Knox, Levy and Phillips, and gave touted up and comers like Williams and Mularkey a chance. At the same time, Bills are well under the cap and have a history of letting higher profile FA's leave over money ... Peters, Winfield, WIlliams, Clements, Price, Jennings, Fletcher, Washington, Whitner, Poz, etc Article Edited November 11, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Saban and Knox were known high profile entities Levy was not a hire were people said look Wilson hired Marv Levy that shows his commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Ralph is ..oh, nevermind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 This seems the opposite to me: "Ralph Wilson doesn't have a problem spending money on high priced free agents. He also doesn't mind playing(sic) his current players to keep them in Buffalo. The biggest criticism on Wilson is his apparent inability to spend money on a decent and veteran coach." Maybe this was true in the Jauron-era, but it's my understanding he was willing to pay Cowher or Shanahan as much as they'd get anywhere else. Neither wanted to go to Buffalo (Cowher not surprising, Shanahan thankfully.) Over the years Bills have had some higher profile coaches like Saban, Knox, Levy and Phillips, and gave touted up and comers like Williams and Mularkey a chance. At the same time, Bills are well under the cap and have a history of letting higher profile FA's leave over money ... Peters, Winfield, WIlliams, Clements, Price, Jennings, Fletcher, Washington, Whitner, Poz, etc Article You can't really consider the Bleacher Report to be real journalism. Any opinions on that site are just that- opinions- without the experience or sources of real journalists. I wouldn't take any of those statements at face value, and most writers on the site have no idea what they're talking about, as evidenced by the above statement. As you said, the exact opposite is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 You can't really consider the Bleacher Report to be real journalism. Any opinions on that site are just that- opinions- without the experience or sources of real journalists. I wouldn't take any of those statements at face value, and most writers on the site have no idea what they're talking about, as evidenced by the above statement. As you said, the exact opposite is true. what he said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Big name coaches don't want to coach in Buffalo, except for a major premium. And Ralph gave Jauron a huge extension, so he'll pay the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Big name coaches don't want to coach in Buffalo, except for a major premium. And Ralph gave Jauron a huge extension, so he'll pay the money. Now THAT'S funny! Actually, as you pointed out at the time, Ralph resigned (laughably prematurely, as most of us noted back then) Jauron in order to save money. He, like you, was under the impression that there would be a "bidding war" for DJ's services (after a 5-1 start of another miserable HC season for DJ) at the end of the season. Ralphus thought he was bargain hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Now THAT'S funny! Actually, as you pointed out at the time, Ralph resigned (laughably prematurely, as most of us noted back then) Jauron in order to save money. He, like you, was under the impression that there would be a "bidding war" for DJ's services (after a 5-1 start of another miserable HC season for DJ) at the end of the season. Ralphus thought he was bargain hunting. So just because you try to save money resigning a guy before he hits the market, you're not spending money? Now THAT'S funny. Almost as funny as thinking Belichick could motivate Haynesworth. No doubt you see the bang-up job being done by high-priced Shanahan and Allen in Washington. Or Parcells in Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 WHO THE HE## IS MAX STEIN? some hack writer "says many bills fans" wanted Ralph to spend more money on coaches ..since when ???? this is a article based on total BULLSH## .. GO BACK TO SAN FRAN OR LA LA LAND STEIN OR WHEREVER and write more BS maybe you can tell us what a idiot has to say? you know, use your own thoughts..This was just a piece of crap journalism he gets a F for Fool! YA think he knows Sully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Ralph is .. cheap. In other news, the sun is reported to possibly come up tomorrow morning, stay tuned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 WHO THE HE## IS MAX STEIN? some hack writer "says many bills fans" wanted Ralph to spend more money on coaches ..since when ???? this is a article based on total BULLSH## .. GO BACK TO SAN FRAN OR LA LA LAND STEIN OR WHEREVER and write more BS maybe you can tell us what a idiot has to say? you know, use your own thoughts..This was just a piece of crap journalism he gets a F for Fool! YA think he knows Sully? A 20-something who still lives with mom, whose entire football background is playing Madden and fantasy football. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 So just because you try to save money resigning a guy before he hits the market, you're not spending money? Now THAT'S funny. Almost as funny as thinking Belichick could motivate Haynesworth. No doubt you see the bang-up job being done by high-priced Shanahan and Allen in Washington. Or Parcells in Miami. I said saving money. He signed him for less than the two of you thought he would cost a few months later. He panicked---the smart move would have been to wait for Djs inevitable collapse a few weeks later and dump him. Renewing his contract and then firing him makes Ralph look dumb and cheap. Without a QB, the Skins are going nowhere, no matter who the HC. Ditto in Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I said saving money. He signed him for less than the two of you thought he would cost a few months later. He panicked---the smart move would have been to wait for Djs inevitable collapse a few weeks later and dump him. Renewing his contract and then firing him makes Ralph look dumb and cheap. Without a QB, the Skins are going nowhere, no matter who the HC. Ditto in Miami. Virtually every owner tries to lock-up people before they hit the market in order to save money, doc. You know this. It doesn't mean that what DJ got was "cheap." And at the time the extension for DJ was being worked-on, the Bills were 4-0 and looked like a good team. But it's interesting you mention the QB situations in Wash and Miami. Trent Edwards looked like a competent QB in 2008, until the Arizona game happened and his brains got scrambled. But I guess Ralphie should have known that would happen before he gave DJ the new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Ike Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 A 20-something who still lives with mom, whose entire football background is playing Madden and fantasy football. PTR Since you've brought it up, what's your living situation and football background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Since you've brought it up, what's your living situation and football background? Did I touch a nerve? "Mom! The Meatloaf!" PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 I said saving money. He signed him for less than the two of you thought he would cost a few months later. He panicked---the smart move would have been to wait for Djs inevitable collapse a few weeks later and dump him. Renewing his contract and then firing him makes Ralph look dumb and cheap. Without a QB, the Skins are going nowhere, no matter who the HC. Ditto in Miami. But you can't really let the big name coaches off the hook for not making the right moves at QB. A lot of times they have explicit personel responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 This seems the opposite to me: "Ralph Wilson doesn't have a problem spending money on high priced free agents. He also doesn't mind playing(sic) his current players to keep them in Buffalo. The biggest criticism on Wilson is his apparent inability to spend money on a decent and veteran coach." Maybe this was true in the Jauron-era, but it's my understanding he was willing to pay Cowher or Shanahan as much as they'd get anywhere else. Neither wanted to go to Buffalo (Cowher not surprising, Shanahan thankfully.) Over the years Bills have had some higher profile coaches like Saban, Knox, Levy and Phillips, and gave touted up and comers like Williams and Mularkey a chance. At the same time, Bills are well under the cap and have a history of letting higher profile FA's leave over money ... Peters, Winfield, WIlliams, Clements, Price, Jennings, Fletcher, Washington, Whitner, Poz, etc Article There is a lot of sarcasm directed to Ralph's perceived cheapness, but the fact is, relatively speaking he has been cheap and it's cost him. When Polian and Butler had his ear, he was a willing spender. But prior to that he was cheap as hell, and after that, he has been mercurial and lacked direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Big name coaches don't want to coach in Buffalo, except for a major premium. And Ralph gave Jauron a huge extension, so he'll pay the money. Thanks to the owner, hopefully that will change soon. There is a lot of sarcasm directed to Ralph's perceived cheapness, but the fact is, relatively speaking he has been cheap and it's cost him. When Polian and Butler had his ear, he was a willing spender. But prior to that he was cheap as hell, and after that, he has been mercurial and lacked direction. Ralph is one of the worst owners in NFL history, any real or perceived cheapness tells only part of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Saban and Knox were known high profile entities Levy was not a hire were people said look Wilson hired Marv Levy that shows his commitment. John Rauch was an AFL championship coach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Ralph is one of the worst owners in NFL history, any real or perceived cheapness tells only part of the story. Agreed, one of the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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