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a friend of mine sent me an email yesterday asking for my advice/opinion. She saw two hotel charges on recent credit card bills that were suspicious to the point where she almost suspected her husband and their au pair may have been doing something inappropriate. Both dates coincided with times that the 2 of them had gone out to bars/clubs(yeah..the husband and au pair).

 

she confronted him last night and he told her that the au pair had a boyfriend that she didn't want my friend to know she was 'banging'...so the husband would put the hotel on his cc and au pair would give him cash to avoid a paper trail for the au pair :blink: ...

 

my friend bought that excuse.

 

I don't....and here comes the tricky part for me.

 

The husband is my boss. there isn't a soul in our immediate surroundings here at work that do not think he ISN'T cheating on his wife(one of my closest friends). No proof...just pretty strong vibes...in fact the au pair met him out at an after party after a work holiday party(one where spouses and dates weren't invited)....immediately everyone in the after party assumed he was banging the au pair.

 

So anyhow...my friend tells me the outcome of the confrontation from last night, and like i said, seems satisfied with the answer. Do I drop it and say "atta girl", or do I send this note which i have typed out but held off sending....Let me know what you think. :wallbash:

 

Not to make you feel worse about the whole situation, but I would be lying if i said it didn't still sound fishy, but that's not for me to judge...you were there for the face to face, so I have to trust your judgment and instincts. I do think he needs to tone down hanging out with the au pair socially, as it has the potential to smell of indiscretion whether there is anything behind it or not, but again, that is between you guys...i do hope that he starts paying more attention to you and the boys as he needs to realize that working 24/7 is not healthy for anyone..jobs come and go but family should always be the top priority.

 

I am always here if you need anything...I try to separate myself from both he and Tim, to avoid clouding the boss/friend line(that's kind of why I haven't been around much lately)...but anytime you want to sneak out(probably not the best phrase to use in this specific context) for a drink or something, let me know.

 

I am glad that you feel a little better about the whole situation.

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the husband knows...she confronted him with the suspicious charges yesterday...he is pretty much scum of the earth...and she and i have been close friends way longer than he has been my boss

 

My advice is to tell the husband his wife is on to him and leave it at that. You will regret getting any more deeply involved. JMO

 

yeah...just completely inappropriate if you ask me...

 

The husband goes drinking with the au Pair?

 

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the husband knows...she confronted him with the suspicious charges yesterday...he is pretty much scum of the earth...and she and i have been close friends way longer than he has been my boss

 

 

I would not put anything in writing, if you wanted to tell her that. I have a neighbor going through almost the same thing and emails and texts are scoured from both side for ammo. I know she is your friend but getting inbetween a husband and wife never ends good.

 

 

 

yeah...just completely inappropriate if you ask me...

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but am i really saying anything damaging in what i wrote? its really killing me, because i would like nothing more than for him to get knocked down...it sounds harsh, but he is just a bad person(no physical abuse or anything like that)...just not a very good human being....and she is, like i said, one of my closest friends.....

 

 

aarrrrggghhhhhhh :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

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Both dates coincided with times that the 2 of them had gone out to bars/clubs(yeah..the husband and au pair).

 

"But it's perfectly innocent! I swear!" :lol:

 

If the wife's buying that, she's getting what she deserves. Sometimes stupid is its own punishment.

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but am i really saying anything damaging in what i wrote? its really killing me, because i would like nothing more than for him to get knocked down...it sounds harsh, but he is just a bad person(no physical abuse or anything like that)...just not a very good human being....and she is, like i said, one of my closest friends.....

 

 

aarrrrggghhhhhhh :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

No, nothing damning but the fact that the trail leads back to you. If you want to counsel her, do it face to face. It is a slippery slope. And people like that don't "get knocked down", if he is cheating on his wife then he has to be scummy enough at heart not to give a crap what others say or think...anything you do will not change the situation. Try as best as you can to be a friend to your friend, listen and try to heal.

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Stay out of it. NEVER get involved with others marital problems in any way shape or form.

I, for the most part, agree with this.

 

Obviously, you have all the right intentions, but relationships are weird things. Your boss's explanation of the credit card charges is so incredibly lame that I'm sure your friend, somewhere in her mind, has an idea what's happening. She may have a powerful reason for repressing these thoughts. If you challenge her on this, she may interpret it as an aggressive act on your part.

 

I know you want to look out for your friend, but you have to be careful. There may be ways to give subtle hints that you do not trust this guy, but I think it would be a mistake to take a hard line and get yourself in the middle. It's likely that she will have to work it out in her own way.

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Your friend is either a complete moron or simply doesn't want to deal with the reality that her husband is banging the nanny. No amount of 'helping' her is going to change either of those senarios.

 

Bottom line:

 

Stay out of it. NEVER get involved with others marital problems in any way shape or form.

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If you had facts that she doesn't have, I could understand why you might feel like the right thing to do would be to tell her. But in this instance, you're talking about only your opinion, as it sounds like she has the facts, and is already willing to ignore the situation. I'd leave it be, especially considering your work situation.

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I know this from experience. We have neighbors that were good friends to both my wife and I. They were going through some rocky times, and I'd often meet the husband after work for a few beers. His wife followed him to the bar we were at one day and saw my truck there. Suddenly she is calling my wife and berating her saying that I'm encouraging her husband to cheat on her and she is sending me long, ranting emails of how I'm ruining their marriage. Meanwhile I had no knowledge whether he had or hadn't actually been cheating on her as he never said anything to me. We went through all this crap as a result of me being friend and listening to a buddy when he was down. We had to cut them both out of our lives. Trust me, stay out of it.

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the husband knows...she confronted him with the suspicious charges yesterday...he is pretty much scum of the earth...and she and i have been close friends way longer than he has been my boss

 

 

 

Again, life experience tells me that you will regret getting involved. Emotions in these situations will run the full spectrum and you are better off not being in the middle of them. If I was you I would take a step back and let the couple deal with their own marital issues. If one or the other of them approaches you I would offer support as a friend but state your belief that it is not your place to become involved in issues concerning their marriage.

 

In addition to their marriage you are putting your job at risk. Again, the decision to do so is yours but does not seem to be a wise thing to do.

 

BTW - your intentions may be really good but if you have any "feelings" beyond friendship for the wife then you need to back away even harder. Just saying ... that's a recipe for total disaster.

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I can walk to the bar we would grab a drink at...he'd never see my car there! :devil:

 

I know this from experience. We have neighbors that were good friends to both my wife and I. They were going through some rocky times, and I'd often meet the husband after work for a few beers. His wife followed him to the bar we were at one day and saw my truck there. Suddenly she is calling my wife and berating her saying that I'm encouraging her husband to cheat on her and she is sending me long, ranting emails of how I'm ruining their marriage. Meanwhile I had no knowledge whether he had or hadn't actually been cheating on her as he never said anything to me. We went through all this crap as a result of me being friend and listening to a buddy when he was down. We had to cut them both out of our lives. Trust me, stay out of it.

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plenty of hr issues that could be thrown in his face if he ever tried that tack...and hardly any of them would be initiated by me...he has a long list of people that want to take him down for his racist and anti-semetic statements that he thinks nothing of floating around...like i said..this guys is not a good human being..

 

but alas...i am gonna stay out of it unless she wants to talk...

 

oh and i should add..his boss is his best friend and is not blind to any of this either...its a really weird situation, but if i ever got outed for talking to his wife, his boss would certainly stand behind him as he feels the same way about potential indiscretions....and his boss is good friends with the wife as well...all of us are former circuit city...

 

i need to get off this team...but i am waiting for my year anniversary to come around next month

 

Yup. If one of my employees was writting letters to my wife regarding my marriage, he'd soon find himself on the unemployment line.

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