Mr. Wilson And Jerry Jones

[Bill from NYC]

Jerry Jones used to be considered part of the "new breed" of NFL owners and Mr. Wilson was thought to be a dinosaur. It occured to me that they really do have much in common:

 

1) They own teams that suck.

 

2) They both put their kids on the payroll.

 

3) Both got rid of proven, respected execs (Polian and Parcells).

 

4) Both hired a weak head coach in terms of him having much say wrt the draft, etc.

 

5) Both are WAY too involved with football decisions. Jones is open about it; Ralph almost certainly brought us Spiller. Jones acts as GM. While he isn't as bad as Levy was, he has no business running football operations imo.

 

6) The need exists for both to draft players who will put "fannies in the seats."

 

I post this because I think of Jones as quite smug. Meanwhile, is he THAT much more together than Ralph? But I warn you that Jones, an Arkansas grad, will do what it takes to get Ryan Mallett. Will Ralph?

 

We shall see.

[Erik]

Jones has more money aka more power. That's the only difference really.

[jack_spikes]

Maybe, but Jones aoplogized publicly to Cowboys fans today. Wilson won't. In fact, he's more apt do make a bad decision like extending the contract of a really bad coach, and then that coach's removal becomes highly warranted, Wilson publicly insults the fan's intelligence by keeping the offending coach on board while publicly claiming it's solely in the interests of continuity. Jerry Jones is a winner! Ralph Wilson is not!

[BillsFanInTexas]

Actually, Jones is in some financial trouble (at least that's what we hear around Dallas).

[Bangarang]

5) Both are WAY too involved with football decisions. Jones is open about it; Ralph almost certainly brought us Spiller. Jones acts as GM. While he isn't as bad as Levy was, he has no business running football operations imo.

 

 

Proof or link to this?

[Fezmid]

Proof or link to this?

 

Pure hyperbole.

[Bill from NYC]

Proof or link to this?

 

He said the team needed more "excitement." Is this enough proof for you, or are you thinking that this pick was a well thought, sound football decision?

 

I am open for dialogue.

[Fezmid]

He said the team needed more "excitement." Is this enough proof for you, or are you thinking that this pick was a well thought, sound football decision?

 

I am open for dialogue.

 

Usually agree with your Bill, but again - this is just hyperbole.

 

The team DOES need to be more exciting. Doesn't mean he had anything to do with the Spiller pick.

[Ramius]

Proof or link to this?

 

There is none. Bill is the only board member clinging to this asinine conspiracy theory.

 

In reality, Spiller was taken by Nix and co because he was the best player available, and a serious offensive threat/playmaker.

[Amstel]

at least Ralph has the balls to fire a coach midseason. If the cowboys have really quit then jerry should fire wade asap!

[AF88Bills]

Jerry Jones used to be considered part of the "new breed" of NFL owners and Mr. Wilson was thought to be a dinosaur. It occured to me that they really do have much in common:

 

1) They own teams that suck.

 

2) They both put their kids on the payroll.

 

3) Both got rid of proven, respected execs (Polian and Parcells).

 

4) Both hired a weak head coach in terms of him having much say wrt the draft, etc.

 

5) Both are WAY too involved with football decisions. Jones is open about it; Ralph almost certainly brought us Spiller. Jones acts as GM. While he isn't as bad as Levy was, he has no business running football operations imo.

 

6) The need exists for both to draft players who will put "fannies in the seats."

 

I post this because I think of Jones as quite smug. Meanwhile, is he THAT much more together than Ralph? But I warn you that Jones, an Arkansas grad, will do what it takes to get Ryan Mallett. Will Ralph?

 

We shall see.

 

As much as I hate to say it, but the Cowboys don't compare to the Bills....Jones expects to win and goes after it. As can be seen in their pursuit of quality personnel. The results may not show it this year, but at least they've been in the conversation. Wilson says he wants to win then allows 10+ years of questionable decisions to materialize.

[Dan]

And in the last 15 years the Cowboys have won just 1 more playoff games than the lowly bills.

[Doc]

1. True.

 

2. Most owners have their kids on the payroll.

 

3. Parcells left after a few years, as is his wont. Heck he was only in NE for 4 years. As for Polian, after losing 3 SB's (and eventually 4) and butting heads over finances (pre-cap), that marriage was doomed.

 

4., 5., and 6. Where did you get these?

[Albany,n.y.]

 

I post this because I think of Jones as quite smug. Meanwhile, is he THAT much more together than Ralph? But I warn you that Jones, an Arkansas grad, will do what it takes to get Ryan Mallett. Will Ralph?

 

We shall see.

If Luck is available, I hope Ralph won't do whatever it takes to get Mallett.

[Bill from NYC]

Usually agree with your Bill, but again - this is just hyperbole.

 

The team DOES need to be more exciting. Doesn't mean he had anything to do with the Spiller pick.

 

OK.

 

I think that this team needs to be stronger on the lines and at LB, and to win football games. Levy/Jauron destroyed this team with their horrid drafts. One poster (don't remember who) said that one could give an 18 year old kid 3 draft magazines and he would have done better than these two incompetent men. I FULLY agree.

 

Ralph is a businessman. You don't see me bashing him much on this board because I respect him, and thank him for keeping the team in WNY. But, he should never be confused with a football man.

 

You are right in that I offer no concrete proof that he was heavily involved in that pick but again, Mr. Wilson is a money man. Flashy players sell seats, beer, jerseys, etc. Making millions is the expertise of Mr. Wilson. He isn't an expert at building a good football team and got rid of those who were.

[Bangarang]

He said the team needed more "excitement." Is this enough proof for you, or are you thinking that this pick was a well thought, sound football decision?

 

I am open for dialogue.

 

Oh okay. Thanks. For a second there I thought you were just throwing crap at the wall and hoping something would stick. But you cleared that up for me.

 

....Oh wait

[st. pete gogolak]

Disagree totally. Say what you will about Jones (and I put him right behind Belichek in pantheon of all-time Bills villains), he has an absolute burning desire to win NFL Championships. Same thing with Synder for that matter. Wilson has, had and always will have a burning desire to make money from his franchise (please note I'm not saying he's cheap - two different things). Winning Super Bowls has always, always, always been secondary. Ask yourself why we didn't go after Charles Haley in '92 and Jones did. Difference between winning and losing a Super Bowl.

[jack_spikes]

And in the last 15 years the Cowboys have won just 1 more playoff games than the lowly bills.

Maybe so, but the Cowboys made the playoffs in '03,'06,'07, and '09. We all know the last time the Bills made the playoffs.

[tonyd19]

Pure hyperbole.

 

You Are A LIAR SIR.....Ralph & Jerry are in fact the same person known around the universe as Jelph. Jelph has been coordinating the fall of the Bills with the US Government ever since Operation Desert Shield! He is trying to secure an intergallactic Army centered around the Cowboys Cheerleanders....The Bills are just getting in the way.

 

As far as your HYPER- BOWL is concerned, Jelph is not interested in this type of intergalatic game until the Bills can actually win the Super Bowl.

 

(Sarcasm obviously intended)

Edited November 1, 2010 by tonyd19

[Dan]

Maybe so, but the Cowboys made the playoffs in '03,'06,'07, and '09. We all know the last time the Bills made the playoffs.

Is the goal to make it to the Playoffs or make it to the Super Bowl?

 

Despite all Jones' greatness, spending, and hype; the Cowboys have been only marginally more successful at the making it to the Super Bowl.