billsfan714 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) Think Im coming around to the way the Jets did it. Invest in the OL so its solid when you do get the rookie QB, avoid the David Carr battered young Qb syndrome. Edited October 3, 2010 by billsfan714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Well, now you saw it. A 52-31 blowout, after being up 28-3. Zero points in the second half. Looks like Luck shot his load in the first half, and choked at clutch time in his first big game this season. Â Stay in school Andy - finish your degree and get another year of playing experience. A Stanford degree is invaluable, and the NFL will be here after you graduate. (Kid's 21 years old, in his sophomore season, ferchrissakes - he's got no business playing in the NFL next season.) Â While he definitely did not have a good 2nd half, he feels the game. He understands things about the game that many QB's don't. Things that aren't taught, but felt. He belongs in a Bills uni next year. But he SHOULD stay in school, to avoid playing for us. sad as it is to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecold Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Hmm another California QB. Not a good track record for the Bills lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 While he definitely did not have a good 2nd half, he feels the game. He understands things about the game that many QB's don't.] Things that aren't taught, but felt.[/b He belongs in a Bills uni next year. But he SHOULD stay in school, to avoid playing for us. sad as it is to say. Â And you're basing that opinion on what? His one year of experience in the PAC 10??? Or what the announcers said tonite when they gushed over him? (Brett Musberger is a guy who prances around in women's underwear, so don't listen to anything he says - he gushes over a lot of guys.) Â How many games have you seen Luck play? (I know it's not more than 3 or 4). What was he feeling that can't be taught when he threw that INT on first and goal with 3 minutes left, down by 14 and trying to tie the game? Â He'd be eaten alive in the NFL next season, if he ever got on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Drafting a junior QB would be an unmitigated disaster in Buffalo because he'd be another Maybin, not physically ready for the NFL. A guy like Luck would have to carry a clipboard for 2-3 years ala Aaron Rogers. You think people here would stand for that? No way. They'd want him to start asap, and he would fail because it ain't college anymore. It's big boy football. Â PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Basically what PTR and the Senator said. And possibly this thread was maybe a little bit knee jerk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) Drafting a junior QB would be an unmitigated disaster in Buffalo because he'd be another Maybin, not physically ready for the NFL. A guy like Luck would have to carry a clipboard for 2-3 years ala Aaron Rogers. You think people here would stand for that? No way. They'd want him to start asap, and he would fail because it ain't college anymore. It's big boy football. Â PTR He's a junior academically, Promo, but a red-shirt sophomore QB. Tonite was his 13th game at starting QB in the PAC 10, and there are some folks who have pronounced him an NFL HOFer. Â Personally, I think we should go after that St. Joe's Collegiate Institute junior quarterback Chad Kelly, who threw for two touchdowns and ran for two scores, as SJCI pounded Canisius this weekend, 50-26 - he feels the game, and is gonna be a stud in the NFL (after he finishes high school and college, that is) Edited October 3, 2010 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Â And you're basing that opinion on what? His one year of experience in the PAC 10??? Or what the announcers said tonite when they gushed over him? (Brett Musberger is a guy who prances around in women's underwear, so don't listen to anything he says - he gushes over a lot of guys.) Â How many games have you seen Luck play? (I know it's not more than 3 or 4). What was he feeling that can't be taught when he threw that INT on first and goal with 3 minutes left, down by 14 and trying to tie the game? Â He'd be eaten alive in the NFL next season, if he ever got on the field. Â I understand what you're saying. All the praise that this kid gets, and what has he accomplished? Not much. But he definitely 'looks' like a gamer. I have sen the last 3 stanford games. I saw about 4 last year. I live in Las Vegas and most of their games are televised. I don't breakdown his game film. Not to I study his mechanics. I just watch him play. And it looks to me, like he understands the QB position better than all of the other QB's in college, and some in the NFL. Plus he has the athleticism, arm strength and touch to succeed in the nfl. Sure he makes some bad play. Everyone does. That's just my humble opinion. You're entitled to your own. If we go with Chad Kelly, I sure hope you're right. I'd take my chance with Luck if he's on the board when we are on the clock. Â Go Fitzy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I still think Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd or 3rd round would be perfect for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I understand what you're saying. All the praise that this kid gets, and what has he accomplished? Not much. But he definitely 'looks' like a gamer. I have sen the last 3 stanford games. I saw about 4 last year. I live in Las Vegas and most of their games are televised. I don't breakdown his game film. Not to I study his mechanics. I just watch him play. And it looks to me, like he understands the QB position better than all of the other QB's in college, and some in the NFL. Plus he has the athleticism, arm strength and touch to succeed in the nfl. Sure he makes some bad play. Everyone does. That's just my humble opinion. You're entitled to your own. If we go with Chad Kelly, I sure hope you're right. I'd take my chance with Luck if he's on the board when we are on the clock. Â Go Fitzy!!! Buddy Nix won't. He's on record regarding what he looks for in a college QB; at least 3 years experience, 30-35 starts, and lots of BIG game experience. Luck meets none of those criteria. But I'm sure he has a bright future - he's got size, smarts, athleticism, and comes from a great football pedigree. He just needs more experience - and I'm sure he knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Buddy Nix won't. He's on record regarding what he looks for in a college QB; at least 3 years experience, 30-35 starts, and lots of BIG game experience. Luck meets none of those criteria. But I'm sure he has a bright future - he's got size, smarts, athleticism, and comes from a great football pedigree. He just needs more experience - and I'm sure he knows that. I'm not so sire the decision would be left solely in nixs hands. But you're rationale makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 He's the real deal. Smart, athletic, makes all the throws, gritty, intense. He reminds me another #12. I am praying he will wear a bills uniform. Not sold on any other QB in college at this time. Â like mallet too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I'm not so sire the decision would be left solely in nixs hands. But you're rationale makes sense Nix will get input from multiple scouting and coaching staff, but trust me - unless the decision is made on anything but a players ability to succeed in the NFL, the final decision will be entirely Nix's...   After a successful college football coaching career with the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Mocs, which included the recruitment of Terrell Owens, Nix was a regional scout under John Butler from 1993 to 2000 for the Buffalo Bills, specializing in the southeast.  Nix left Buffalo with John Butler and A. J. Smith after the 2000 season. He was initially the Director of Pro Player Personnel (2000–2001), but after Butler died, Smith was promoted to General Manager, and Nix to Assistant General Manager.  Nix's job with the Chargers was to oversee both pro and college scouting and to be one of the main decision makers in each NFL Draft. Nix was a major reason the Chargers turned around from a losing football team to a rebuilt, winning team. In 2004, three players Nix drafted were selected to the 2005 Pro Bowl. In 2005, six players Nix drafted were selected to the 2006 Pro Bowl. In 2006, eleven players Nix drafted were selected to the 2007 Pro Bowl. In 2007, eight players Nix drafted were selected to the 2008 Pro Bowl. The Chargers won four out of the last five AFC West titles with Nix as Assistant GM and Director of Player Personnel, in charge of college scouting and instrumental to the decision making process of their NFL drafts.  Nix was hired as a National Scout for the Buffalo Bills on January 26, 2009. He was named General Manager of the Buffalo Bills on December 31, 2009, after Russ Brandon was promoted to CEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy_Daniels Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) Â And you're basing that opinion on what? His one year of experience in the PAC 10??? Or what the announcers said tonite when they gushed over him? (Brett Musberger is a guy who prances around in women's underwear, so don't listen to anything he says - he gushes over a lot of guys.) Â How many games have you seen Luck play? (I know it's not more than 3 or 4). What was he feeling that can't be taught when he threw that INT on first and goal with 3 minutes left, down by 14 and trying to tie the game? Â He'd be eaten alive in the NFL next season, if he ever got on the field. Â Excellent rebuttal. I am getting the sense that Bills Nation is just repeating the opinion of ESPN commentators, and then passing them off as their own. Â Here's the real reality: Locker, Luck, and Mallett all have good-to-great physical tools and understand how to operate under center, but possess questionable accuracy and decision-making skills. Â Luck had a strong first half, but fell off the radar in the second half. Edited October 3, 2010 by Teddy_Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Point of View Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 LoL, I am sticking with Fitzpatrick and Brohm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 LoL, I am sticking with Fitzpatrick and Brohm. And they may very well be the best choice, based on how Brohm plays, at what position the Bills draft, and who's 'on the board' at that time - but I doubt Nix will have your # on speed dial come draft day! Â I do hope the Bills blow the Jets outa the stadium today - maybe there'll be an opportunity to have Brohm run a series or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 i have moderate warm and fuzzies over Luck, but I highly doubt he's coming out of school with the uncertainty of the labor agreement and, frankly, the Bills organization waiting for him. I am ho-hum about the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Luck will stay in school. Or, to put it another way, Luck will escape the Bills yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Luck Mallett and Locker are having ups and downs this season and I have yet to see any of these QB's move ahead of the others in this race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Give Barkley another year and he might be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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