Skoobydum Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Until we show that we can win, there seems to be no reason to spend the extra money. The Bills spent huge sums in the early 90's to field great teams but we were at or near the top of the league. No reason to do that now considering how many question marks we have and no idea of how good the guys in the system will be. Go Bills!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 misleading thread title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkLessWagMore Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 At his age, I don't think any amount of money is going to get him "F"'d. Great thread though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoobydum Posted July 12, 2010 Author Share Posted July 12, 2010 At his age, I don't think any amount of money is going to get him "F"'d. Great thread though. If he was a oil guy, then maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Until we show that we can win, there seems to be no reason to spend the extra money. The Bills spent huge sums in the early 90's to field great teams but we were at or near the top of the league. No reason to do that now considering how many question marks we have and no idea of how good the guys in the system will be. Go Bills!! Ralph Wilson doesn't need encouragement from anyone not to spend money. It comes natural to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 misleading thread title Yeah, was hoping for another "because we're building through the draft" thread. It's been too many days..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Ralph Wilson doesn't need encouragement from anyone not to spend money. It comes natural to him. How far below the cap has the Bills' payroll been for the last few seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 what the hell is "F"? !@#$ed? As in laid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Until we show that we can win, there seems to be no reason to spend the extra money. The Bills spent huge sums in the early 90's to field great teams but we were at or near the top of the league. No reason to do that now considering how many question marks we have and no idea of how good the guys in the system will be. Go Bills!! So what you are saying is "Screw It" we aren't any good anyway so let's not try to get better? And no owner spends "all" the money either. No team can win without a good mix of good drafting, free agents, good coaching/gameplanning and at least a little bit of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 How far below the cap has the Bills' payroll been for the last few seasons? Ralph's problem has been that he's too cheap with the jobs that fall outside of the cap -- GM and HC -- and as a result it has cost him money because the incompetents he's hired on the cheap have blown huge sums of money on inferior players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Ralph's problem has been that he's too cheap with the jobs that fall outside of the cap -- GM and HC -- and as a result it has cost him money because the incompetents he's hired on the cheap have blown huge sums of money on inferior players. If reports are to be believed, RW wanted to pay someone to be GM/HC type in November/December. Then Shanahan and Cowher both declined the job, which says a lot about where the Bills are in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Ralph's problem has been that he's too cheap with the jobs that fall outside of the cap -- GM and HC -- and as a result it has cost him money because the incompetents he's hired on the cheap have blown huge sums of money on inferior players. bull **** I don't know how much Nix is making but Donahoe...our last actual GM...wasn't exactly cheap At head coach, it's true he doesn't spend a lot on guys who haven't proven themselves to be worth a lot...that's not a sign of being cheap, that's a sign of being smart with your money. After the strong start in 2008, he rewarded Jauron with a major raise. In 2008, under the terms of his old contract, he was about the 31st highest paid in the league. The raise he got made him the 10th-highest paid coach in the NFL with an average salary of $3.5M per year...and considering he's paying him over $8M for doing nothing after he fired him AND was willing to spend in the neighborhood of $10M per year for a coach like Shanahan, to say Ralph is cheap is ridiculously stupid and ignorant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoobydum Posted July 12, 2010 Author Share Posted July 12, 2010 bull ****I don't know how much Nix is making but Donahoe...our last actual GM...wasn't exactly cheap At head coach, it's true he doesn't spend a lot on guys who haven't proven themselves to be worth a lot...that's not a sign of being cheap, that's a sign of being smart with your money. After the strong start in 2008, he rewarded Jauron with a major raise. In 2008, under the terms of his old contract, he was about the 31st highest paid in the league. The raise he got made him the 10th-highest paid coach in the NFL with an average salary of $3.5M per year...and considering he's paying him over $8M for doing nothing after he fired him AND was willing to spend in the neighborhood of $10M per year for a coach like Shanahan, to say Ralph is cheap is ridiculously stupid and ignorant I was just trying to say that there is a time to spend and a time to save and even when we spend we have gotten nothing in return to really show for it but a ~.500 record. I wouldn't spend any extra until I see a direction that leads to a positive result versus more of the same, it's just my point. As per the F in the title, it was FA but it cut it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Ralph's problem has been that he's too cheap with the jobs that fall outside of the cap -- GM and HC -- and as a result it has cost him money because the incompetents he's hired on the cheap have blown huge sums of money on inferior players. Top GM's, HC's, and many players don't want to be in a market/city like Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 It's Hard to spend money in the NFL /ok maybe too much of that today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Top GM's, HC's, and many players don't want to be in a market/city like Buffalo. They would rather play in such big, sunny, booming, metropolitan cities like Green Bay, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Money isn't the problem with Buffalo. I have never though Ralph wilson is cheap. Greggo, Mike Mularky, etc... were all considered to be good head coach candidates. Getting a coordinator to become your head coach isn't exactly a new theory. The #1 problem with Buffalo is drafting and the people who make decisions for it. That's it problem solved. It's no secret that the bills have drafted poorly for the last decade or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 They would rather play in such big, sunny, booming, metropolitan cities like Green Bay, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh... Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas56 Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Top GM's, HC's, and many players don't want to be in a market/city like Buffalo. James could not convince Bosh to play in Cleveland, so James, Bosh and Wade went to Miami. Think about this a minute: Young, rich ballers hanging in Cleveland - or in our case, Buffalo - or South Beach. Which would you choose? Is it any wonder we have a hard time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 It is what it is, but $$$ signs cure a lot. The Bills have spent a lot of those dollars in the wrong places though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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