ndirish1978 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 The guy has watched A LOT of tape. I've been watching all 3 days and he has consistently had info on every guy no matter how obscure. He had Clausen rated 48 and he went right there. I'm impressed. As I'm typing this they just asked him and Charles Davis to rate the Bills draft. Davis gave us a C+ and Chavous gave us an A. Chavous says the 2 DEs we took late can both be very good LBs as pros. He also liked Wang a lot. I'm not touting the guy just because he threw us a bone, but he has schooled the panel for 3 days, showing them they are just going off of public opinion. Like most people here know, often the guys on TV haven't even watched a lot of tape on these guys, they're looking at draft rankings just like us. Having gained a lot of respect for Chavous this week I'm very encouraged that he thought well of our draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 All I have to say is I hope he is right and I can't wait for september Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 The guy has watched A LOT of tape. I've been watching all 3 days and he has consistently had info on every guy no matter how obscure. He had Clausen rated 48 and he went right there. I'm impressed. As I'm typing this they just asked him and Charles Davis to rate the Bills draft. Davis gave us a C+ and Chavous gave us an A. Chavous says the 2 DEs we took late can both be very good LBs as pros. He also liked Wang a lot. I'm not touting the guy just because he threw us a bone, but he has schooled the panel for 3 days, showing them they are just going off of public opinion. Like most people here know, often the guys on TV haven't even watched a lot of tape on these guys, they're looking at draft rankings just like us. Having gained a lot of respect for Chavous this week I'm very encouraged that he thought well of our draft Unbelievable......I just posted about him at the same time. He knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 The guy has watched A LOT of tape. I've been watching all 3 days and he has consistently had info on every guy no matter how obscure. He had Clausen rated 48 and he went right there. I'm impressed. As I'm typing this they just asked him and Charles Davis to rate the Bills draft. Davis gave us a C+ and Chavous gave us an A. Chavous says the 2 DEs we took late can both be very good LBs as pros. He also liked Wang a lot. I'm not touting the guy just because he threw us a bone, but he has schooled the panel for 3 days, showing them they are just going off of public opinion. Like most people here know, often the guys on TV haven't even watched a lot of tape on these guys, they're looking at draft rankings just like us. Having gained a lot of respect for Chavous this week I'm very encouraged that he thought well of our draft But I agree 100%. Chavous did a great job. I guess he started doing this when he was playing. Gotta respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 He has more cred than the other "experts" because he played the game and knows how to watch film. Let's hope he's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 The guy has watched A LOT of tape. I've been watching all 3 days and he has consistently had info on every guy no matter how obscure. He had Clausen rated 48 and he went right there. I'm impressed. As I'm typing this they just asked him and Charles Davis to rate the Bills draft. Davis gave us a C+ and Chavous gave us an A. Chavous says the 2 DEs we took late can both be very good LBs as pros. He also liked Wang a lot. I'm not touting the guy just because he threw us a bone, but he has schooled the panel for 3 days, showing them they are just going off of public opinion. Like most people here know, often the guys on TV haven't even watched a lot of tape on these guys, they're looking at draft rankings just like us. Having gained a lot of respect for Chavous this week I'm very encouraged that he thought well of our draft I agree, I stopped watching the marbles roll slowly around in the Berman/Young Bucketheads. Why is Tommy even there, he said 10 words throughout the 1st 2 days. I was super impressed with Chavous. I kept saying, "I kept believe how deep this dude's knowledge is" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I agree, I stopped watching the marbles roll slowly around in the Berman/Young Bucketheads. Why is Tommy even there, he said 10 words throughout the 1st 2 days. I was super impressed with Chavous. I kept saying, "I kept believe how deep this dude's knowledge is" That's what a Vanderbilt education does for you, my friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Unbelievable......I just posted about him at the same time. He knows his stuff. Corey has been a draft addict for many years now. I have read and seen interviews with him while he was still playing, back when he was a Cardinal. Since he was a kid, he said he has studied and catalogued a lot of film relating to football. He has his own draft website called draftnasty. I remember watching him as a guest on the draft years back when Berman and ESPN were the only network covering it. He'd be an excellent evaluator for NFL teams if he retires.....i think he is still techinacally a FA (?) He studies prospects with a great deal of scrutiny to small details. These details often are the difference in reality vs. perception when it comes to the unknowns surrounding NFL prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 He's thoroughly impressed me. He's talking about small school players playing in games against other small school teams I havent even heard of. At one point Rich Eisen just stopped and gave him props for his depth of knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 He's thoroughly impressed me. He's talking about small school players playing in games against other small school teams I havent even heard of. At one point Rich Eisen just stopped and gave him props for his depth of knowledge. Seriously, He needs to setup a website, after today I will trust him much more than McShay or Kiper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Seriously, He needs to setup a website, after today I will trust him much more than McShay or Kiper. draftnasty.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Agreed. It was nice when Mayock was there and the 2 would just go back and forth. You could really tell they both loved what they were doing and had the knowledge to back it up. I was enjoying watching the guy even before he gave our draft an "A" grade. He could actually give insight and make you feel like you learned something about the guy that was drafted. Late in the 7th round, they had a "stump the truck" thing going where they challenged the guys in the truck to get footage of the obscure guys being drafted. What was great, was Chavous had something to say about each guy regardless of whether the guys in the truck had anything. Even Mr Irrelevant, he had his stats and draft analysis. The guy was very well researched. I know we're not suppposed to go by what guys on TV say about our draft, but it does smake me feel more confident when someone so knowledgeable says it was a good draft. He didn't focus so much on the "value", i.e. where the the guy was drafted, but more on the abilities and potential of each individual that was picked. Which, IMO, is the way to analyze a pick - who cares where he was projected to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_red Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 http://www.nfl.com/videos/buffalo-bills/09...lls-draft-grade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Agreed. It was nice when Mayock was there and the 2 would just go back and forth. You could really tell they both loved what they were doing and had the knowledge to back it up. I was enjoying watching the guy even before he gave our draft an "A" grade. He could actually give insight and make you feel like you learned something about the guy that was drafted. Late in the 7th round, they had a "stump the truck" thing going where they challenged the guys in the truck to get footage of the obscure guys being drafted. What was great, was Chavous had something to say about each guy regardless of whether the guys in the truck had anything. Even Mr Irrelevant, he had his stats and draft analysis. The guy was very well researched. I know we're not suppposed to go by what guys on TV say about our draft, but it does smake me feel more confident when someone so knowledgeable says it was a good draft. He didn't focus so much on the "value", i.e. where the the guy was drafted, but more on the abilities and potential of each individual that was picked. Which, IMO, is the way to analyze a pick - who cares where he was projected to go. I agree. He and Mayock made good tandem. I hope the NFL Network continues to pair them together with next year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteBills4ever Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Great thread, very informative!! Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 NFL Network set was very good to view... especially Chavous and Mayock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 http://www.nfl.com/videos/buffalo-bills/09...lls-draft-grade Can't really trust too much of what Davis said in that statement, since he didnt seem to know who the Bills drafted at first except Spiller, said Wang was slated for RT, which likely isnt true, and Calloway for LT or guard, when I think he is going to start off at RT where he played. Then he seemed to not give too good of a grade even though he said he loved Spiller and Levi and Easley. A head scratcher. EDIT: Gailey did just say that they are going to move Calloway to guard at the start, although he is likely to be one of those versatile guys who can play any of four positions on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteBills4ever Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Can't really trust too much of what Davis said in that statement, since he didnt seem to know who the Bills drafted at first except Spiller, said Wang was slated for RT, which likely isnt true, and Calloway for LT or guard, when I think he is going to start off at RT where he played. Then he seemed to not give too good of a grade even though he said he loved Spiller and Levi and Easley. A head scratcher. 100% agree, plus right away when he sees that Chavous gave an A, he says: "Maybe I didnt watch enough tapes" , you can see that he knows Chavous has much more in-depth knowledge than he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Agreed..... Great job!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanbe Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Living in PHX I'm familiar with Corey and he was always a good interview after the game. A pure student of the game and I'm so glad he has this gig. The guy knows his football and knows the players and what it takes to make it in the NFL. I hope his grade for our Bills is dead on. I have to say I'm happy for the most part even if we didn't address the OL until late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Chavus was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 The guy has watched A LOT of tape. I've been watching all 3 days and he has consistently had info on every guy no matter how obscure. He had Clausen rated 48 and he went right there. I'm impressed. As I'm typing this they just asked him and Charles Davis to rate the Bills draft. Davis gave us a C+ and Chavous gave us an A. Chavous says the 2 DEs we took late can both be very good LBs as pros. He also liked Wang a lot. I'm not touting the guy just because he threw us a bone, but he has schooled the panel for 3 days, showing them they are just going off of public opinion. Like most people here know, often the guys on TV haven't even watched a lot of tape on these guys, they're looking at draft rankings just like us. Having gained a lot of respect for Chavous this week I'm very encouraged that he thought well of our draft Chavous also had Reggie McNiel as his #1 prospect in the draft a couple of years ago. McNiel was drafted in the 6th round and lasted one year. Soooo.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 He makes a good point that the picks are all high motor guys who if they don't pan out could very well become excellent special teams players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berndogg Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Chavous either watches more film than any active coach or has the best memory in the world. He was refrencing specific games and plays off the top of his head when talking about mid major and AA guys. I couldn't believe how in depth his knowledge is. We all know that key players for every team come from late round draft picks, so as a fan it's great to hear in depth scouting reports about these guys right away. I'll take that over watching McShay and Kiper argue about LeFevour for twenty minures because he's the only guy on the board that they've heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Chavous either watches more film than any active coach or has the best memory in the world. He was refrencing specific games and plays off the top of his head when talking about mid major and AA guys. I couldn't believe how in depth his knowledge is. We all know that key players for every team come from late round draft picks, so as a fan it's great to hear in depth scouting reports about these guys right away. I'll take that over watching McShay and Kiper argue about LeFevour for twenty minures because he's the only guy on the board that they've heard of. Corey did a great job, but they do have notes and teleprompters to help them out with all the info. Not to take any credit away from him, but it's not all "off the top of his head." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Chavous also had Reggie McNiel as his #1 prospect in the draft a couple of years ago. McNiel was drafted in the 6th round and lasted one year. Soooo.......... Bullschitt. First there is no chance he had him rated #1 overall. Second there is no such player as Reggie McNiel. Third, Ryan McNeil, if that is who you meant, was drafted in the second round. So you're either ignorant or entirely wrong or just making schit up or all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 NFL Network set was very good to view... especially Chavous and Mayock. I made the switch to them three years back for draft coverate and haven't regretted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Corey did a great job, but they do have notes and teleprompters to help them out with all the info. Not to take any credit away from him, but it's not all "off the top of his head." Watching... he didn't appear to have a teleprompter (although what do I know); but he did have copious notes that he frequently referred to prior to commenting. It looked like he was in school with notes and books laid out, constantly taking notes as players were picked or discussed. The guy is sharp. I think he's found his nitch. I can see him beoming one of the premier draftniks, along with Kiper and Mayock within 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I thought Chavous did an excellent job. He seemed to know something about every player, like Kiper and Mayock do. For someone I had never seen before as an analyst, very impressive. A jock with knowledge! By the way, they asked the ESPN panel to name the top QB available today and Todd McShay said "Levi Brown" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I made the switch to them three years back for draft coverate and haven't regretted it. why couldn't McShay or Kiper lose their voice? Mayock said more but didn't talk as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 25, 2010 Author Share Posted April 25, 2010 Yeah I was bummed Mayock got sick. I was also bummed he took a break from commenting online for about 6 picks in the 5th round and missed saying anything about Wang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Yeah I was bummed Mayock got sick. I was also bummed he took a break from commenting online for about 6 picks in the 5th round and missed saying anything about Wang He loves Wang from what I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I made the switch to them three years back for draft coverate and haven't regretted it. More professional discussion at NFL Network. I wonder if Rich Eisen looks at ESPN and laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 More professional discussion at NFL Network. I wonder if Rich Eisen looks at ESPN and laughs. Exactly. NFL Network is more substance compared to the flash ESPN moved to when I used to watch their draft coverage. I am about positive Eisen has to be laughing these days at the guys over there stuck with Steve Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 http://www.nfl.com/videos/buffalo-bills/09...lls-draft-grade WOW. Chavous made Davis look silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Bullschitt. First there is no chance he had him rated #1 overall. Second there is no such player as Reggie McNiel. Third, Ryan McNeil, if that is who you meant, was drafted in the second round. So you're either ignorant or entirely wrong or just making schit up or all three. I left you the google link and you can read for yourself. You can apologize later. I'm guessing you'll never reply though. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&ei=JcnTS4...118ce00d2daff08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Chavous is a notorious film junkie and considered a phenom scout. I've enjoyed his analysis for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I left you the google link and you can read for yourself. You can apologize later. I'm guessing you'll never reply though. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&ei=JcnTS4...118ce00d2daff08 I'll reply. I had never heard of "Reggie McNiel", and when I looked him up and googled him, there was no mention of him either. After I saw your message, I looked up Reggie McNeal and saw that Chavous, while he was still a player and not an analyst, said after the combine two months before the draft where McNeal ran a 4.37 that he was the top QB on his list, but also said that he didnt think he would be drafted that way and maybe not in the first round. His 2 and 3 were Vince Young and Cutler. So yeah, that was stupid of him. And stupid of me to say what I did, even though I looked up the non existent person you mentioned. Maybe if you only misspelled it by one letter I would have found him easier. So I apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 So yeah, that was stupid of him. And stupid of me to say what I did, even though I looked up the non existent person you mentioned. Maybe if you only misspelled it by one letter I would have found him easier. So I apologize True accountability is obviously not your strong suit. If you ever watched college football you'd know who Reggie Mcneil/McNeal was regardless of the spelling which is a silly excuse. It's funny how strong you came on because I discredited the one and only guy who liked the Bills draft. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 True accountability is obviously not your strong suit. If you ever watched college football you'd know who Reggie Mcneil/McNeal was regardless of the spelling which is a silly excuse. It's funny how strong you came on because I discredited the one and only guy who liked the Bills draft. Cheers But you didn't discredit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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