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Trying is one thing. Succeeding is another. It's time to admit the Bills reputation across the league is barely above the Raiders. McNabb indicated he wanted an extension, and the Bills were willing to do it according to one reference. So he goes to a team that hasn't given him one.

 

There is no substitute for victory...

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I think McNabb insisted on Washington so he could stick it to the man twice every year. I don't blame him.

 

I'm glad the Bills didn't get him. They have bigger fish to fry right now. A stop gap QB isn't the most dire need, IMO.

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Trying is one thing. Succeeding is another. It's time to admit the Bills reputation across the league is barely above the Raiders. McNabb indicated he wanted an extension, and the Bills were willing to do it according to one reference. So he goes to a team that hasn't given him one.

 

There is no substitute for victory...

JC, BillsVet. You and Spartacus are the biggest downers. Lots of naysayers here but you guys have some credibility and stature and are so completely negative.

 

Rightly or wrongly McNabb was not going to come here.

 

Furthermore, how long do you think it'll be before Washington locks him up to a long term deal? Because you know it's going to happen.

 

Everything alright in your life aside from The Stadium Wall? You seem unhappy.

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Can't blame McNabb...this organization is a complete and utter disgrace.

 

A little advice to fans here: NEVER get excited for guys available FA or trade...YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.

 

Players do NOT want to come here to play. End of story.

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JC, BillsVet. You and Spartacus are the biggest downers. Lots of naysayers here but you guys have some credibility and stature and are so completely negative.

 

Rightly or wrongly McNabb was not going to come here.

 

Furthermore, how long do you think it'll be before Washington locks him up to a long term deal? Because you know it's going to happen.

 

Everything alright in your life aside from The Stadium Wall? You seem unhappy.

 

Reality is really an endangered species at TBD.

 

I don't care about not getting McNabb...it's the fact that a high quality player made it known he didn't want to play here even if he did get an extension. Oh I'm sure someone will come out and say DM is a jerk and screw him anyway. Instead of ripping DM, how about asking some questions about this Bills team that hasn't proven one thing in 10 years? This is about the team and their rep being so low that big name NFL people make it known they don't want to coach or play there. When that will dawn on the homer fans is anyone's doubt.

 

Anyone ever wonder why this team can't attract proven people for GM, HC, or even a starting QB? We keep seeing the same thing over and over again, but apparently it's not enough. In order for the Bills to get back to respectability, they need to climb a mountain in the Himalayas. And that ain't happening anytime soon.

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Reality is really an endangered species at TBD.

 

I don't care about not getting McNabb...it's the fact that a high quality player made it known he didn't want to play here even if he did get an extension. Oh I'm sure someone will come out and say DM is a jerk and screw him anyway. Instead of ripping DM, how about asking some questions about this Bills team that hasn't proven one thing in 10 years? This is about the team and their rep being so low that big name NFL people make it known they don't want to coach or play there. When that will dawn on the homer fans is anyone's doubt.

 

Anyone ever wonder why this team can't attract proven people for GM, HC, or even a starting QB? We keep seeing the same thing over and over again, but apparently it's not enough. In order for the Bills to get back to respectability, they need to climb a mountain in the Himalayas. And that ain't happening anytime soon.

See, I agree with 90% of what you write. Not only that but you have a healthy skepticism and a strong sense of history and perspective. That's why I said you have stature and credibility.

 

It's the 10% that gets me. It seems like you mentioned in one post (forgive me if I'm wrong) that getting McNabb would be a marketing/ticket sales move. But you also mentioned in another post that you didn't think the Bills would trade for him because they wouldn't be willing to ante up an extension. Now that it appears that the Bills were willing to at least attempt to meet McNabb's demands, the fact that he spurned us is your focus.

 

My intuition is that McNabb wants to stick it to his old team and maybe win a championship in the bargain and that he could do neither with the Bills. I'm also hopeful that the organization is headed for a turnaround although I, like you, am a realist.

 

Anyways, thanks for responding and sorry if I took a cheap shot.

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See, I agree with 90% of what you write. Not only that but you have a healthy skepticism and a strong sense of history and perspective. That's why I said you have stature and credibility.

 

It's the 10% that gets me. It seems like you mentioned in one post (forgive me if I'm wrong) that getting McNabb would be a marketing/ticket sales move. But you also mentioned in another post that you didn't think the Bills would trade for him because they wouldn't be willing to ante up an extension. Now that it appears that the Bills were willing to at least attempt to meet McNabb's demands, the fact that he spurned us is your focus.

 

My intuition is that McNabb wants to stick it to his old team and maybe win a championship in the bargain and that he could do neither with the Bills. I'm also hopeful that the organization is headed for a turnaround although I, like you, am a realist.

 

Anyways, thanks for responding and sorry if I took a cheap shot.

 

I've never made the point that McNabb would be a sales/marketing move. Definitely head and shoulders above what the TO signings was and would command respect league wide. Indicates a desire to win-now.

 

Look, I'm former military and I don't like hearing that someone tried repeatedly but continues to fail. At some point, you've got to succeed. Trouble with Buffalo is, their reputation seems to precede them and they come away empty handed.

 

You didn't take a cheap shot, and I don't take anything you say that way. I suppose I shouldn't follow this team as closely, but I want them to win and they've done nothing in my mind during this extremely critical offseason to show that.

 

McNabb wanted to go to a team with a vision, not one back into rebuild mode for the third time in 10 seasons. Can't say that I blame him.

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I've never made the point that McNabb would be a sales/marketing move. Definitely head and shoulders above what the TO signings was and would command respect league wide. Indicates a desire to win-now.

 

Look, I'm former military and I don't like hearing that someone tried repeatedly but continues to fail. At some point, you've got to succeed. Trouble with Buffalo is, their reputation seems to precede them and they come away empty handed.

 

You didn't take a cheap shot, and I don't take anything you say that way. I suppose I shouldn't follow this team as closely, but I want them to win and they've done nothing in my mind during this extremely critical offseason to show that.

 

McNabb wanted to go to a team with a vision, not one back into rebuild mode for the third time in 10 seasons. Can't say that I blame him.

 

I agree with everything you're saying except the bolded part.

 

Ya, we're not an attractive landing spot to big name players. But to say they've done nothing this offseason when they clearly did everything they could to land McNabb is just inaccurate.

 

I'd also be interested to hear your idea for what this organization should do to become attractive again, save from winning of course.

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I wanted McNabb, yeah. There, I got it out there.

 

Now, Philadelphia has drastically changed their entire Offensive skilled positions. Their average age has dropped from 30 years old to 23 years old. I compared McNabb, Westbrook, R. Brown and LJ Smith to Kolb, McCoy, Maclin and Celek.

 

Even if you compare just the QB and RB it is a difference of 31 years old to 23 years old. That is crazy. It is 5 years experience, not many games...to 20+ years of experience, while making the Playoffs many times and a Super Bowl once.

 

 

I kind of feel bad for Philly fans. I wonder how this will effect them? Will Andy Reid look like an idiot? <_<

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Trying is one thing. Succeeding is another. It's time to admit the Bills reputation across the league is barely above the Raiders. McNabb indicated he wanted an extension, and the Bills were willing to do it according to one reference. So he goes to a team that hasn't given him one.

 

There is no substitute for victory...

 

yeah, sucking for the better part of 10 years will do that to ya...then again, what have the Redskins won lately? I guess he figures at least he can play the Eagles twice a year...

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At the same time, the Skins' 2nd was higher than ours and they might have to give up a 3rd. That's would be a tough package for us to beat. Personally, I think the Eagles would have been smart to trade him out of the division but the Skins is probably a better offer than we could have given.

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I've never made the point that McNabb would be a sales/marketing move. Definitely head and shoulders above what the TO signings was and would command respect league wide. Indicates a desire to win-now.

 

Look, I'm former military and I don't like hearing that someone tried repeatedly but continues to fail. At some point, you've got to succeed. Trouble with Buffalo is, their reputation seems to precede them and they come away empty handed.

 

You didn't take a cheap shot, and I don't take anything you say that way. I suppose I shouldn't follow this team as closely, but I want them to win and they've done nothing in my mind during this extremely critical offseason to show that.

 

McNabb wanted to go to a team with a vision, not one back into rebuild mode for the third time in 10 seasons. Can't say that I blame him.

 

 

The Redskins were 4-12 and had a worse oline than ours.

 

Honestly, with how miserable this team makes you, maybe you should find some else to do with your time. Or at the very least, you could give the team at least a draft before calling Nix/ Whaley failures. It's April man. Enjoy the weather.

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At the same time, the Skins' 2nd was higher than ours and they might have to give up a 3rd. That's would be a tough package for us to beat. Personally, I think the Eagles would have been smart to trade him out of the division but the Skins is probably a better offer than we could have given.

 

Lost in all of this are two things, one of which you just mentioned. For us to have been the BEST offer, we would have had to give our 2nd, plus another conditional 2nd next year, or do something like swap first round picks this year too. Nobody seems to even notice that the Skins pick is 5 spaces higher.

 

The Skins put a big offer on the table, the best offer, and one that we would have had to give up a pretty good bounty to beat.

 

Then the other point, which has been mentioned here and there, is that the Eagles wanted to do everything they could to make McNabb happy as well if possible. He clearly would prefer the Skins where he gets to play the Eagles twice a year. To top it off, McNabb gets to go to a team that will spend money to get him weapons, has one of the best offensive minded coaching staffs now with the Shannahans (with SB's to show for it), a load of offensive weapons at WR, TE, and RB, plus the #4 pick in the draft.

 

I am huge Bills fan, and even I cant blame him for preferring to be there. Not to mention, he doesnt care if he gets an extension or not, because if he doesnt then he gets to pick where he plays next year where he will still be good enough and young enough to get a great deal somewhere.

 

McNabb made the best choice for him, and I respect that. The Eagles made the best deal for them, and I respect that. More importantly, the Bills stepped up and made a legitimate offer without giving up the farm, and I really respect that. I see no fault by our FO on this one, nor do I think McNabb was wrong to want to go to the Skins who definitely give him a better position to be in at this moment in time.

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