Pete Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I had this in another thread- just thought some would be interested- Maybin- could of had Oher or Okrapo or Cushing or Harvin Whitner- could of had Ngata Hardy- could of had Ray Rice or DeSean Jackson McCargo- could of had DeAngelo or Mangold or Jones Drew or Cromartie Youboty- could of had Brandon Marshall or Owen Daniels or Jahri Evans or Elvis or Leon Washington !@#$ing Bledsoe- could of had Aaron Rogers Roscoe- could of had Frank Gore or Justin Tuck or Marion Barber Tim Anderson- could of had Matt Schaub or Chris Cooley Euhus- could of had Jerome Allen Dylan Mcfarland- could of had Wes Walker Mcgahee could of had Dallas Clark or Asomugha Kelsay- could of had Boldin or Osi or Briggs or Witten Williams- could of had Haynesworth or Ed Reed or John Henderson or Dwight Freeney or Javon Walker !@#$ING MINDBLOWING THAT WE COULD !@#$ THIS PICK UP! Josh Reed- could of had LeCharles Bentley Coy Wire- could of had David Garrard Justin Bannon- could of had Aaron Kampman Mike Pucillo- could of had James Harrison or Bart Scott We have not had a solid draft since 2001 IMO. Last years draft was good- but we blew the Maybin pick. No **** you can do this with every draft. But my point is there was talent on the boards when we selected. We just chose to pick inferior players. No wonder we have sucked for so long! Nice list but do that for every other team in the NFL and i bet you will find similar results. So I chose San Diego San Diego- 2008 Antoine Cason- good value pick no second or third round picks 2007 Craig Davis no second or third round picks- weak draft class 2006 Cromartie- Probowler McNeil- Probowler Whitehurst- backup QB no 4th round pick 2005 Shawn Merriman-probowler Luis Castillo Vincent Jackson-probowler Darren Sproles 2004 Eli Manning- traded for Philip Rivers and draft picks that ended up being Nate Kaeding and Shawn Merriman. A+ San Diego Olshansky Nick Hardwick-probowler Shawn Phillips Michael Turner-probowler 2003 Drayton Florence Mike Scifries probowler Hanik Milligan probowler Antonio Gates probowler Kris Dielman probowler 2001 Tomlinson-probowler Brees-probowler Compare this list to the chumps we have drafted. San Diego traded so many high picks away-- and still blows away our past 10 drafts. We draft tomato cans, they draft probowlers. That is why Chargers are tough, and we have not made the playoffs in a decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Correction. F%$^&*% Bledsoe could of had Aaron Rodgers. It was the first round pick we gave up to Dallas for Losman that made us not be able to draft Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 You failed to list the players San Diego could have had. You did that for the Bills now do that for Chargers. If it turns out that the Chargers were better then good we have Nix now. Also make sure the pro bowlers you listed aren't fillins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Thank God Nix is here now. We have nearly 10 years of !@#$ing up the first round of the draft to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 could of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-Gun Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 31 other teams could have had Aaron Schobel. all the teams could have had Jarius Byrd numerous times. Same with Jason Peters, which we got a 1st & 3rd for. I don't pretend to think the Bills have been great at drafting, but everyone could have had anyone. If everyone knew Tom Brady was going to turn out the way he did, he would have been the 1st pick in the draft. Instead, 31 other teams could have had him many times over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 It's not "could of had," it's "could HAVE had." I wouldn't have posted this, but you repeated it so many times I couldn't help myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 31 other teams could have had Aaron Schobel. all the teams could have had Jarius Byrd numerous times.Same with Jason Peters, which we got a 1st & 3rd for. I don't pretend to think the Bills have been great at drafting, but everyone could have had anyone. If everyone knew Tom Brady was going to turn out the way he did, he would have been the 1st pick in the draft. Instead, 31 other teams could have had him many times over. really? numerous times? He was a 2nd round pick, meaning some teams had 1 crack at him, and IIRC the Cowboys had no cracks at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 31 other teams could have had Aaron Schobel. all the teams could have had Jarius Byrd numerous times.Same with Jason Peters, which we got a 1st & 3rd for. I don't pretend to think the Bills have been great at drafting, but everyone could have had anyone. If everyone knew Tom Brady was going to turn out the way he did, he would have been the 1st pick in the draft. Instead, 31 other teams could have had him many times over. 22 probowlers were drafted before Schobel. It was a deep draft and we miraculously managed to get a draft pick right. And we got a first, fourth and sixth for Peters. Where is our left tackle? It seems when the Bills have a talented player- they trade them or let them free. Us letting Pat Williams go is retarded. Ditto with Greer. Ditto with Winfield. Ditto with trading for Drew. Ditto with trading for JP. Ditto with trading for RJ. Etc. With the exception of last years draft second round on- please tell me who were good draft picks or trades we made the past 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Terrence McGee Probowler M Lynch Pro Bowler K Williams P Bowler Trade for M Stroud a Pro Bowler last year L McKelvin number one in AFC in kick return yards as a rookie. J Byrd Defensive and ROTL finalist and leads the league in Ints You can play that game with every team....the Bills actually do not lack a lot of talent at many positions what they lack the most by far is a QB over the past decade and that has stunted all growth more than anything. Over the past decade we have wasted three number one picks for QBx in RJ, Bledsoe and Losman and all have failed....that is the biggest problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Pete, You cant really judge drafts this way although if there was a way to correctly do this it would probably still bear out your point. We have not drafted well. Interesting enough I thought that last years draft was one of the best we have had in a while....you cannot base a draft soley on that 1st round pick. To me you have to base it on every player you draft and how many of them stick. This past years draft Maybin - well....as of today how do I defend this? I cant. Wood - everybody thinks this is good pick Levitre - another solid pick Byrd - candidate for the pro bowl Nelson - pass catching te that made plays. Will be a big part of this team next year Assortment of other db's - maybe or maybe not. Would like to see Lankster get a shot at ST's returner Harris? Will probably get sent packing because of change in defensive scheme....thats not his fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 31 other teams could have had Aaron Schobel. all the teams could have had Jarius Byrd numerous times.Same with Jason Peters, which we got a 1st & 3rd for. I don't pretend to think the Bills have been great at drafting, but everyone could have had anyone. If everyone knew Tom Brady was going to turn out the way he did, he would have been the 1st pick in the draft. Instead, 31 other teams could have had him many times over. Excellent, thank you. We could have played that game all day. Fact of the matter is that there are examples of good players drafted in every round and any team could be accused of passing over them. Just to add a few to your list, every team passed on Brett Farve and Drew Breese at least once. There are many many more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 You could do this for every team in the league. It could drive you completely insane. And since we now have a guy from SD, how bout we turn the page and move forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Excellent, thank you. We could have played that game all day. Fact of the matter is that there are examples of good players drafted in every round and any team could be accused of passing over them. Just to add a few to your list, every team passed on Brett Farve and Drew Breese at least once. There are many many more... The most accurate way to judge a team is through its record. The Bills ranked 29 out of 32 teams. The Bills have not made the playoffs in ten consecutive years and still counting. The quality of our drafts over the past number of years is reflected in the team's record. As bad as the Bills front office has performed over the past decade I see some hope with Buddy Nix as the GM. He is a good scout and personnel person who was associated with a successful operation under Polian when he was with the Bills and with the San Diego franchise under Butler/A.J. Smith. Adding Whaley to the front office is another positive step in that he is looking for quality staffers from other successful teams. The Bills organization has been very insular in its approach. Buddy Nix seems to be secure enough to bring in outside fresh talent to give this very stolid franchise some energy and innovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo6824 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 [My only problems with this post is, yes those teams grabbed talented players. but i do believe if we had gotten them with the previous coaching staff they would be worse off than they r now too. jurons staff ,him included ,and the staff before them did nothing to bring our players along successsfully. its all hine sight. lets see what the new batch of coaches can do with them and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Pete, You cant really judge drafts this way although if there was a way to correctly do this it would probably still bear out your point. We have not drafted well. Interesting enough I thought that last years draft was one of the best we have had in a while....you cannot base a draft soley on that 1st round pick. To me you have to base it on every player you draft and how many of them stick. This past years draft Maybin - well....as of today how do I defend this? I cant. Wood - everybody thinks this is good pick Levitre - another solid pick Byrd - candidate for the pro bowl Nelson - pass catching te that made plays. Will be a big part of this team next year Assortment of other db's - maybe or maybe not. Would like to see Lankster get a shot at ST's returner Harris? Will probably get sent packing because of change in defensive scheme....thats not his fault as good as you think our draft was in 2009 , we still went into the season without a LT or a RT. probably should have made a few different decisions somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawchukBills Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 The way I see it...we have made some (not all) poor draft choices in recent years..that's why we have a new GM,HC,assistants, etc. The past is the past...let just wait a see what Buddy and his boys do this year...just give them a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 as good as you think our draft was in 2009 , we still went into the season without a LT or a RT.probably should have made a few different decisions somewhere We made bad decisions at left tackle.....I dont think we did so at right tackle....we actually had two... - One of them we moved to the left side without saying "what if" then cut him right before the season - The other one got hurt.....then his backup got hurt....then his backup got hurt Bottom line......mistakes were made at the position but not necessarily in the draft as we could have brought in a free agent but none of those things were Nix fault......he is now in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 We made bad decisions at left tackle.....I dont think we did so at right tackle....we actually had two... - One of them we moved to the left side without saying "what if" then cut him right before the season - The other one got hurt.....then his backup got hurt....then his backup got hurt Bottom line......mistakes were made at the position but not necessarily in the draft as we could have brought in a free agent but none of those things were Nix fault......he is now in charge gotta love the Bills ability to sell the Inner Circle Jerk to the fans- no one is ever accountable for any decision The bad picks were not Modrak's fault - although he was head of college scouting they weren't Buddy Nix's fault although he was the top national scout they weren't Bandon's fault - he was just he marketing guy Dick is gone - he made all of the bad picks - but not the good ones. even better- after the fact, Nix and Modrak claim they really wanted the super-star that was passed over for the bust in fact drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Any team's fans could make the same vague statements about who "they could've had". The obvious choices are Ngata or Bunkley over Whitner and Orakpo or Cushing over Maybin. Those were the two players selected that pretty much all of us were ticked off over. The rest? We could look anywhere and see where other teams have gotten good, if not great, players in the later rounds that we didn't pick. We could go all the way back to 2000 and cry "I can't believe the Bills did not take Brady in the 5th round". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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