JPS Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Belt Nights Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I like our spot at #9 to be honest we have a sure shot at Davis or Bulaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. New England isn't stupid they know that top 10 picks aren't what they use to be. In the draft its better to have 3 picks in the 25-45 range instead of 1 in the top ten and another in the 70-80 range. Sure it might match up in the draft chart but picks in the 25-45 range are consider safer and better instead of high priced upper 1st round picks. I would love that trade but I know it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 We couldnt get Beluga there, but maybe Iupati. Those are the two guys I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyjustbcuz Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. Just why would New England do anything to help our plight to build a good team?? I can see New England making mutual deals with Kansas City or someone that is far removed from the division...but I don't see this happening at all! And, why are people so inclined to want to move down to medocrity in the draft when we have an opportunity to get the 9th pick in the draft ? I want Quality not Quantity!! We have to many middle of the road players now...I would give all 9 picks we have for 1 Julius Peppers, or 1 Peyton Manning !!! Yeah, you can get a superstar lower in the draft, but overall the best odds are to pick a top 10 pick!!! but pick him prudently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 An example of a trade that did happen. In 2008-No. 8: Ravens to Jaguars. Baltimore traded its first-round selection to Jacksonville for Jacksonville's first-round selection, two third-round selections, and fourth-round selection (No. 26, 71, 89, 125). Just throwing it out there. What if Bulaga , McClain, Bradford and Claussen are gone and NE is hot for pass rusher (JP Paul)? Not sure NE would do it, but that's what a trade out looks like. Hey, what impact have we gotten out of 11, 13, 13 and 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Anyone wanting to trade with Belichick is not all that bright. Ask the Raiders who gave up what will probably be a high first for an aging Richard Seymour back in September. Still, Buffalo would do well at this early juncture to trade down. They need all the picks they can get, although teams rarely trade into the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. Have them throw in Matt light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Just why would New England do anything to help our plight to build a good team?? I can see New England making mutual deals with Kansas City or someone that is far removed from the division...but I don't see this happening at all! And, why are people so inclined to want to move down to medocrity in the draft when we have an opportunity to get the 9th pick in the draft ? I want Quality not Quantity!! We have to many middle of the road players now...I would give all 9 picks we have for 1 Julius Peppers, or 1 Peyton Manning !!! Yeah, you can get a superstar lower in the draft, but overall the best odds are to pick a top 10 pick!!! but pick him prudently! They traded us a Quateback once . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. Or SF, with two first round picks, could look to capitalize and move up from 17 and give the Bills pick 48. Still perhaps putting them in range for one of the OTs (Campbell, Bulaga). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. How did you dream up this scenario? Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 How did you dream up this scenario? Nevermind. I was thinking. Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. There's a simple reason why NE was stock piling 2nd rounders last year during the draft. This is one of the deepest talented drafts (especially on the defensive side) and theyre going to get great value most likely on all their picks. They do not want to trade into the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 didnt NE trade away their 1st round pick and ended up with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd round picks last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. The idea of someone trading into the top 10 because they don't want to pay two second round picks is a bit flawed, considering they'll pay millions more just for the # 9 pick than they would for the other three players combined. Last year's #9: Green Bay - DT, B.J. Raji, Boston College - Signed (5-years, $28.5M; $17.7M guaranteed) Last Year's #22: Minnesota - WR, Percy Harvin, Florida - Signed (5-years, $14.25M max; $8.425M guaranteed) Last Year's #47: Oakland (fr. NE/SD) - S, Mike Mitchell, Ohio - Signed (4-years, $3.778M; $2.028M guaranteed) Last Year's #53: Philadelphia - RB, LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh - Signed (4-years, $3.497M; $1.727M guaranteed) The only way someone is trading up to that pick is if they feel a difference maker is still available at that position. This being the deepest draft in recent memory, I just don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharper802 Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. Has Belicheat ever traded up in the first round? I can't recall him ever doing that. It is far more likely he will trade a second rounder if he doesn't want to use the pick for a first next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Or SF, with two first round picks, could look to capitalize and move up from 17 and give the Bills pick 48. Still perhaps putting them in range for one of the OTs (Campbell, Bulaga). I like that scenario much more than the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope Belicheck wants to get into the top 10. The Bills could trade their 1st (9) and 3rd (72) to the Pats for their 1st (22), 2nd (47) and 2nd (53). The point chart has us giving up 1580 and getting 1580. After the deal, we would have 22, 41, 47 and 53 instead of 9, 41 and 72. I'm thinking the Pats might not want to pay 3 second rounders and it makes sense for the Bills rebuild to do this deal. Consider that Bflo got Wood, Byrd and Levitre in that span last year. You have too much time on your hands. Not sure that Belicheat would deal within the division, besides the Pats don't need to move up, they usually do twice as good as us drafting and they are at the other end of the draft in most years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 This has prob said 10 times, but New England is exactly where they want to be. They are famous for trading back in the draft and amassing a bunch of draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 My god people. I just grabbed NE out of thin air cause I knew they had extra picks and was wondering what we could expect to get FROM ANYONE if we dropped down 10 spots. Okay...I concede...Belicheck will never do this. THE RELEVANT QUESTION IS: SHOULD WE??? Maybe trading down would be worth looking at if QBs, OTs and McClain are gone by 9th pick. Maybe not. But I'd rather explore new ideas than rehash old Bills greats, Sabres games and what Phil Simms thinks about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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