zazie Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Tim Tebow is taking his star power to sport's biggest stage. The former Florida quarterback and his mother will appear in a 30-second commercial during the Super Bowl next month. The Christian group Focus on the Family says the Tebows will share a personal story centering on the theme "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life." The group isn't releasing details, but the commercial is likely to be an anti-abortion message chronicling Pam Tebow's 1987 pregnancy. After getting sick during a mission trip to the Philippines, she ignored a recommendation by doctors to abort her fifth child and gave birth to Tim. The 2007 Heisman Trophy winner ended his college career with several NCAA, Southeastern Conference and school records, and two national championships. Tebow also has been very involved in his family's Christian-based ministry. Jim Daly, president and CEO of Focus on the Family, said the commercial comes at a time when "families need to be inspired." "Tim and Pam share our respect for life and our passion for helping families thrive," Daly said. "Focus on the Family is about ... strengthening families by empowering them with the tools they need to live lives rooted in morals and values." Thirty-second commercials during the Super Bowl are selling for between $2.5 million and $2.8 million. Daly said all the funds for the ad came from a handful of "very generous and committed friends," and that no money from the group's general fund was used. "Now that the ad has been shot, we're excited to tell people it's coming because the Tebows' story is such an important one for our culture to hear," he said. "You won't want to miss it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Maybe I missed it, but why is Warner>>>>>>> Tebow? I assume you mean Kurt Warner too, I must be out of the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share Posted January 19, 2010 Maybe I missed it, but why is Warner>>>>>>> Tebow? I assume you mean Kurt Warner too, I must be out of the loop. While Warner is very religious too and constantly thanks God for every good game, he does it with enough respct for other people to not push it too overtly to the point that he is prosyletizing. A super-bowl commercial about abortion? THAT sounds like an abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 While Warner is very religious too and constantly thanks God for every good game, he does it with enough respct for other people to not push it too overtly to the point that he is prosyletizing. A super-bowl commercial about abortion? THAT sounds like an abortion. Ok I get the Warner thing now. But I dont see any problem with an abortion ad. I mean really, just use a condem, they are cheaper anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 A super-bowl commercial about abortion? THAT sounds like an abortion. I don't see what the big deal is. He wouldn't be the first player to endorse something in a national TV ad. So maybe you don't agree with his religious views. The easy solution? Ignore it. It'll last all of 30 seconds of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I don't see what the big deal is. He wouldn't be the first player to endorse something in a national TV ad. So maybe you don't agree with his religious views. The easy solution? Ignore it. It'll last all of 30 seconds of your life. Because it reveals a grandstanding, self-righteousness. One that grates on me, and if Tebow isn't a successful QB in the NFL (like I, and many others expect) will grate on fans, and teammates as well. Especially if he is selected by the Bills, and presented as a, pardon the pun, "savior". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Because it reveals a grandstanding, self-righteousness. One that grates on me, and if Tebow isn't a successful QB in the NFL (like I, and many others expect) will grate on fans, and teammates as well. Especially if he is selected by the Bills, and presented as a, pardon the pun, "savior". Does it? I haven't seen the ad yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Does it? I haven't seen the ad yet. He has already revealed that aspect of his persona, and I can't imagine a religion-based anti-abortion commercial that would dish out anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 While Warner is very religious too and constantly thanks God for every good game, he does it with enough respct for other people to not push it too overtly to the point that he is prosyletizing. A super-bowl commercial about abortion? THAT sounds like an abortion. So, if I believe in deity, I'm a right to lifer? Atheist, and I'm pro choice? I must have missed the sermon where right to life/abortion is the excusive domain of religion. I guess I always thought this was a people thing, without regard to faith/non-faith beliefs. Anyway, if anybody can pull off this taboo, I suspect Tebow can. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksNBills Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Tim Tebow is a robot created by the Christian church to take over the world. He wasn't aborted because he was constructed in a lab. His lifetime checklist provided by God himself looks like this: Be coined as the next savior for Florida football Win back to back national championships Lose 1 game to prove you will rise again Be doubted Rise again (win Superbowl) Take over world This will happen and James Cameron will make another lame movie about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 So, if I believe in deity, I'm a right to lifer? Atheist, and I'm pro choice? I must have missed the sermon where right to life/abortion is the excusive domain of religion. I guess I always thought this was a people thing, without regard to faith/non-faith beliefs. Anyway, if anybody can pull off this taboo, I suspect Tebow can. JMO. Well said. Urging people to not have abortions is not a bad thing. It will really depend on how it is presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think thats a pretty great story actually. If he wants to pay to have his message heard and hes that passionate about it then let him. Ill watch He took the time to make a commercial you took the time to write about it on amessage baord.....way to give him some free advertising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Because it reveals a grandstanding, self-righteousness. One that grates on me, and if Tebow isn't a successful QB in the NFL (like I, and many others expect) will grate on fans, and teammates as well. Especially if he is selected by the Bills, and presented as a, pardon the pun, "savior". you say that it is grandstanding and self-righteousness to take a stand on abortion. Love to have that dialogue with you sometime. Feel free to email me. Is there anyway I can give you my email other than on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 you say that it is grandstanding and self-righteousness to take a stand on abortion. Love to have that dialogue with you sometime. Feel free to email me. Is there anyway I can give you my email other than on here? Let me introduce you to a certain forum here. PPP Wait, is what I just did a bannable offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasmo Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think thats a pretty great story actually. If he wants to pay to have his message heard and hes that passionate about it then let him. Ill watch He took the time to make a commercial you took the time to write about it on amessage baord.....way to give him some free advertising I love this kid Tebow. Young dude with passion. He would be a top shelf guy in the Bills locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 you're right. What a jerk. I would much rather have the players on my team act like thugs, drive drunk, hit pedestrians, take drugs, carry weapons, steal money, impregnate numerous woman, etc. There is no place in this league for players with morals and character. (sarcasm off). I don't personally ascribe to the overly religious act, but I have no problem with players who do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Let me introduce you to a certain forum here. PPP Wait, is what I just did a bannable offense? I wouldnt consider it so. Just wondering why it is ok to parade around with all kind of beliefs but as soon as one says he is a Christian he is self righteous. When the case is made that just the opposite is true. The basis of Christianity is that there is nobody righteous in himself. In fact the Bible says that our own righteousness is as filthy rags (bible day term for menstral napkins) in God's eyes. It is to that fact that we turn our lives to Jesus and believe in the work He did on the cross. So to say that Christians walk this way is a mis-represtentation. And I do admit that some do, but not all of us. Like the devil guy by the way. Got a good sence of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I wouldnt consider it so. Just wondering why it is ok to parade around with all kind of beliefs but as soon as on says he is a Christian he is self righteous. When the case is made that just the opposite is true. The basis of Christianity is that there is nobody righteous in himself. In fact the Bible says that our own righteousness is as filthy rags (bible day term for menstral napkins) .So to say that Christians walk this way is a mis-represtentation. Like the devil guy by the way. Got a good sence of humor. I wasn't really picking on you. I was mostly joking. The bannable offense comment was a joke because everyone disparages PPP. However, if we discuss religion and abortion this thread will end up there quickly. My take, Tebow should have a commercial that isn't too preachy if he wants to reach as wide an audience as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 how can anyone see Tim Tebow as self righteous? makes zero sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Because it reveals a grandstanding, self-righteousness. One that grates on me, and if Tebow isn't a successful QB in the NFL (like I, and many others expect) will grate on fans, and teammates as well. Especially if he is selected by the Bills, and presented as a, pardon the pun, "savior". couldnt be any further from the truth, complete fabrication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksNBills Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 you say that it is grandstanding and self-righteousness to take a stand on abortion. Love to have that dialogue with you sometime. Feel free to email me. Is there anyway I can give you my email other than on here? Haha take it easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I wasn't really picking on you. I was mostly joking. The bannable offense comment was a joke because everyone disparages PPP. However, if we discuss religion and abortion this thread will end up there quickly. My take, Tebow should have a commercial that isn't too preachy if he wants to reach as wide an audience as possible. Oh, didnt think you were picking. This is a good test for him. Hope he isnt too preachy. There are times and places for that. That is not the time or place. But if Miller can advertise scantly women and viagra can advertise sex then the Focus on the Family should be able to advocate a babies right to live. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Tebow is an outstanding young man who does exactly what the Bible tells you to do which is take the message out to the world. To be hated comes with the territory, but by no means should it deter you. People in other countries die for the sake of Christ and though people would like to nail you to the cross in the US for the same reasons, they can't. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion are protected under the Constitution of United States. If you don't like what he has to say, turn the channel when it comes on. No one is forcing you to watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaLee83 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 If she had gone through with the abortion we wouldn't have to listen to him spew his message on those of us who fare quite well without man's worst creation: religion. That's what I get out of it. During his commercial I will most likely be taking a dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peevo Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Tim Tebow is a robot created by the Christian church to take over the world. He wasn't aborted because he was constructed in a lab. His lifetime checklist provided by God himself looks like this: Be coined as the next savior for Florida football Win back to back national championships Lose 1 game to prove you will rise again Be doubted Rise again (win Superbowl) Take over world This will happen and James Cameron will make another lame movie about it. Amazing Stuff. As much as Tim Tebow is a true living American Folk Hero, the fact that his group can afford 30 seconds of ad time on one of the most expensive tv broadcasts every year strikes me as questionable. I just don't think its the right venue to preach your opinion on very divisive issue. I'm not saying either side doesn't have its merits, I just don't think the Superbowl should be the venue for that kind of discussion. Football and sports is about escapism, not depressing issues like abortion. Sandwiched between spots with male focus group tested archetypes (hot girls, beer, cars, sports, etc) will be this pretentious and condescending ad about "family values." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) Oh, didnt think you were picking. This is a good test for him. Hope he isnt too preachy. There are times and places for that. That is not the time or place. But if Miller can advertise scantly women and viagra can advertise sex then the Focus on the Family should be able to advocate a babies right to live. Just saying Sounds fair to me. Edit - PPP in 3...2...1... Edited January 19, 2010 by Booster4324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Tebow is an outstanding young man who does exactly what the Bible tells you to do which is take the message out to the world. To be hated comes with the territory, but by no means should it deter you. People in other countries die for the sake of Christ and though people would like to nail you to the cross in the US for the same reasons, they can't. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion are protected under the Constitution of United States. If you don't like what he has to say, turn the channel when it comes on. No one is forcing you to watch it. Preach it Brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Amazing Stuff. As much as Tim Tebow is a true living American Folk Hero, the fact that his group can afford 30 seconds of ad time on one of the most expensive tv broadcasts every year strikes me as questionable. I just don't think its the right venue to preach your opinion on very divisive issue. I'm not saying either side doesn't have its merits, I just don't think the Superbowl should be the venue for that kind of discussion. Football and sports is about escapism, not depressing issues like abortion. Sandwiched between spots with male focus group tested archetypes (hot girls, beer, cars, sports, etc) will be this pretentious and condescending ad about "family values." see post 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 If she had gone through with the abortion we wouldn't have to listen to him spew his message on those of us who fare quite well without man's worst creation: religion. That's what I get out of it. During his commercial I will most likely be taking a dump. Amazing Stuff. As much as Tim Tebow is a true living American Folk Hero, the fact that his group can afford 30 seconds of ad time on one of the most expensive tv broadcasts every year strikes me as questionable. I just don't think its the right venue to preach your opinion on very divisive issue. I'm not saying either side doesn't have its merits, I just don't think the Superbowl should be the venue for that kind of discussion. Football and sports is about escapism, not depressing issues like abortion. Sandwiched between spots with male focus group tested archetypes (hot girls, beer, cars, sports, etc) will be this pretentious and condescending ad about "family values." The Christian types are playing nice. Give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 you say that it is grandstanding and self-righteousness to take a stand on abortion. Love to have that dialogue with you sometime. Feel free to email me. Is there anyway I can give you my email other than on here? I didn't imply that taking a stand on abortion is grandstanding and self-righteous. In fact, I don't care what his stand is on abortion. But, a football player making a commercial that will debut during the Super Bowl to express an opinion FOR OR AGAINST sets off an alarm in my mind. And if you are an overhyped football player that doesn't meet the expectations that you have been involved in creating, that kind of behavior will grate on people. If he ends up a failure in the NFL (after being selected with a high pick),it will surely annoy MANY of the fans of the team that picks him. You disagree with that? You don't think it would annoy people? Or you just get all riled up because abortion is the subject of the commercial? Switch it around, and imagine a player in his position coming out with a pro-choice commercial to be debuted during the Super Bowl. I have no interest in bickering about abortion with you over emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I didn't imply that taking a stand on abortion is grandstanding and self-righteous. In fact, I don't care what his stand is on abortion. But, a football player making a commercial that will debut during the Super Bowl to express an opinion FOR OR AGAINST sets off an alarm in my mind. And if you are an overhyped football player that doesn't meet the expectations that you have been involved in creating, that kind of behavior will grate on people. If he ends up a failure in the NFL (after being selected with a high pick),it will surely annoy MANY of the fans of the team that picks him. You disagree with that? You don't think it would annoy people? Or you just get all riled up because abortion is the subject of the commercial? Switch it around, and imagine a player in his position coming out with a pro-choice commercial to be debuted during the Super Bowl. I have no interest in bickering about abortion with you over emails. So If he becomes the next Joe Montana it is ok with you but if he ends up lie trent edwards its not. Secondly if he is a football player he has no right voicing an oppinion. I dont care if he is a crack addict, he has the right to voice his oppinion. Thirdly, his mother was incouraged to abort him due to pregnacy issues by a professional doctor. So they in my oppinion have the right to take a stand and say look at us and see how things didnt turn out the way doctors said. I dont think your issue is the whole football thing. If they banned all beer comercials from the SB would you be upset. I would have to sugest that you turn the game off as soon as Focus on the family comes on because i wouldnt want you to be annoyed if he turns into a failure because he doesnt believe in abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 So If he becomes the next Joe Montana it is ok with you but if he ends up lie trent edwards its not. Secondly if he is a football player he has no right voicing an oppinion. I dont care if he is a crack addict, he has the right to voice his oppinion. Thirdly, his mother was incouraged to abort him due to pregnacy issues by a professional doctor. So they in my oppinion have the right to take a stand and say look at us and see how things didnt turn out the way doctors said. I dont think your issue is the whole football thing. If they banned all beer comercials from the SB would you be upset. I would have to sugest that you turn the game off as soon as Focus on the family comes on because i wouldnt want you to be annoyed if he turns into a failure because he doesnt believe in abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peevo Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think the above poster was trying to explain that it's not the opinion of Tebow that is the point of discussion. It's the time and place. I'm gonna be eating pizza and wings, drinking some beer with friends watching the game on Superbowl Sunday. It's become a de facto American holiday. It is NOT the place to talk about heavily debatable issues. I want to vegetate and watch (hopefully) entertaining football. It's football. Not a thesis on determinism or when conception starts. You can have this debate in a classroom, a church, or town hall if you like to scream at people. I just don't need to be preached to on abortion on a secular holiday. Seriously. I would feel the same way if it were a Pro Choice ad. It's not the opinion, its the forum. I don't force my opinion on people. I don't have "It's not a Choice, it's a Child" stickers on my car, nor the opposite. I find any of that sanctimonious. Don't tell me how to live my life, I don't tell you how to live yours. THAT is the condescending nature of these right-to-life thumpers. There's no pro-gay marriage 30 second ad during the game. That would throw the Christian right into a wonderful "liberal indoctrinated" tizzy. I just want to stress I have no issues with Tebow's opinion on abortion. I think his story is actually pretty compelling. I just don't want to be preached and talked down to because I choose to watch a football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Tim Tebow is a robot created by the Christian church to take over the world. He wasn't aborted because he was constructed in a lab. His lifetime checklist provided by God himself looks like this: Be coined as the next savior for Florida football Win back to back national championships Lose 1 game to prove you will rise again Be doubted Rise again (win Superbowl) Take over world This will happen and James Cameron will make another lame movie about it. If it's in 3-D, I'll probably see it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Tebow is an outstanding young man who does exactly what the Bible tells you to do which is take the message out to the world. To be hated comes with the territory, but by no means should it deter you. People in other countries die for the sake of Christ and though people would like to nail you to the cross in the US for the same reasons, they can't. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion are protected under the Constitution of United States. If you don't like what he has to say, turn the channel when it comes on. No one is forcing you to watch it. I hope he gets drafted by the Oakland Raiders. Let him take that message to the Raider nation. You ever notice that when a religious player does well, they praise God for guiding them and helping them succeed. But when they have a bad game, they never say, "God abandoned me today, I was really let down that he didn't show up to support me". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Tim Tebow has made a pact with the devil to be given such skills on the football field and he will pay for it later in life. It's a fact. Just ask Pat Robertson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 You guys may not like this, but this add may save the life of an unborn child that cannot speak for itself. It could very well end up being a deterent for a woman hanging in the balance between abortion and going through with the pregnancy. You talk about the venue, but what better venue is there than a commercial during the most watched event in the US each year. For all of the people that want to push these types of issues to the back of their mind, I hope and pray that they come to the forefront of your thoughts every day. I hope one day it's like the light switch comes on. One day all of us will answer for every choice we've made in life, Christian or not, and Tim (along with his mother) are carrying out their mission to help steer people in the right direction. In the end, God knows whom are His and those with a heart soft enough to receive the message. Those are exactly the ones whom this is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I hope he gets drafted by the Oakland Raiders. Let him take that message to the Raider nation. You ever notice that when a religious player does well, they praise God for guiding them and helping them succeed. But when they have a bad game, they never say, "God abandoned me today, I was really let down that he didn't show up to support me". LOL!!! That's funny. That's because people grounded in Christ know that He will never leave us nor forsake us and all things work together for good to those who love Him. It doesn't say everything will be good, but works together for good. Life experiences keep us humble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rev.Mattb74 ESQ. Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I never understand when people get all upset when an athlete says something they disagree with. I dont care about John Rocker or Dusty Baker, Charles Barkley or Tim Tebow. Of all the people I know I can't think of one I agree with on every topic. I choose who's opinions matter to me and who's doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 LOL!!! That's funny. That's because people grounded in Christ know that He will never leave us nor forsake us and all things work together for good to those who love Him. It doesn't say everything will be good, but works together for good. Life experiences keep us humble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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