Jerry Jabber

Agree to disagree. What about all the other divisions I mentioned? How come the Bills didn't make the playoffs when the Bills had the #2 ranked defense two years in a row in the early 2000's? How come they didn't make it to the playoffs when they had the #4 ranked defense under Schwartz and a Top 5 Special Teams unit?

The Steelers have been to three Super Bowl's and won two with Rapistburger, but the Ravens still managed to get in the playoffs six times and Bengals still managed to get in the playoffs five times even with playing against an elite QB [Rapistburger] in the division. You can try and use the argument "You just named a bunch of good teams with okay quarterback play," but how would all the AFC East QB's from the Bills, Jets and Dolphins over the past 16 years do on those teams? The Bills had a Top 5 defense three different times during the playoff drought, but did that get us to the playoffs? No. A good QB can make all the difference. Here's another division, the NFC South. The last two teams to represent the NFC came from this division. Every QB in this division can be considered very good to elite. Cam Newton, last year's MVP. Drew Brees, still throwing for over 5,000 yards and a SB winner. Matt Ryan, league MVP. Jameis Winston, up and comer and looking good in his second year in the league.

AFC North has Rapistburger and Flacco (two SB winners) and Dalton who was doing good up until this past season. Have the Bills, Jets and Dolphins had a good QB the caliber of those three since 2001...I don't think so. NFC North has Wilson and Palmer, Wilson went to two Super Bowl's and won one, Palmer was in the NFC Championship game last year...again, have the Bills, Jets and Dolphins had a good QB the caliber of those two since 2001...I don't think so. NFC East had E. Manning and Romo and Manning won two SB's. Have the Bills, Jets and Dolphins had a good QB the caliber of those two since 2001...I don't think so.

I agree 100%

The QB is the most important piece of the team and the rest of the division hasn't had a great one, let alone a good one in over 16 years.

Last night, Matt Ryan was the only Top 10 QB Brady had to face all year long. We unfortunately know the outcome, but if the Falcons coaches were smarter, they would have won the game. You know every game Brady is in, he's going to put up a lot of points, so you need an elite QB who can do the same. The AFC East has shown that you can't do that with guys like: Losman, Holcomb, Edwards, Fitzpatrick, Manuel, Taylor, Pennington, Clemens, Sanchez, G. Smith, Fiedler, Lemon, Beck, Moore and Tannehill.

It's pathetic that no other AFC East team has been able to get a very good/elite QB over the past 16 years. The Bills, Jets and Dolphins have been making it easy for Brady and Belichek.

Back in the late 80's thru the mid-90's, the AFC East had two elite QB's in the division, Kelly and Marino, followed by Bledsoe during the 90's with the Patriots. Since Brady took over as starter in 2001, he's barely had to face any good competition within the division. The best Brady had to face was Drew Bledsoe who was on the downside of his career during his three years with the Bills and Brett Favre who played with the Jets (had a torn bicep) for one year. Brady has had an easy ride winning the division almost every single year as there's been no real competition for 16 years. It would be nice if some team (preferably the Bills) got an elite QB and finally gave the Patriots a real challenge within the division.

Sorry for your loss. Thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.

Marrone has him beat

Tank

I agree. I think Rex would be a great guy to go grab a beer and wings with and BS about football, but he underwhelmed as a HC. I wish him well at ESPN.

That, as well as injuries and not having those lost picks to use from the Watkins trade.

As far as Rex, I like his personality and how he embraced the city. But as a coach, I thought he was below average from not putting in the time (being last to arrive and first to leave everyday (as reported by Sal C. from WGR550) and not tailoring the defense based on the strengths of his players.

+1

Who cares about Brady's legacy as a Bills fan. The guy dominated the Bills during his career to date and there's no way the Bills will ever put enough wins up against him to make that W/L record even a respectable one.. I'm more concerned about the Buffalo Bills legacy. The past 17 years has been marked with failure and ineptitude. Our glory years have been long gone. I'm hoping the Pegula's will build a new, winning legacy in Buffalo with both the Sabres and Bills, but I think that itself is going to take some time as they are learning on the job as new sports owners.

That's what I'm thinking.

Good for him, I think he will do well in broadcasting.

Not according to all the Mazzholes, they think Goodell is out to get the Patriots.

I hope when Brady retires, so does Belichek and all these Mazzholes are brought back to earth when the Cheatriots aren't winning the division every year and are back to where they were pre-Brady.

Brady is great at finding the open receiver. That's something the Bills need to improve on (besides QB) is pass protection. Hopefully they'll upgrade the RT position.

I always thought Hogan was a "training camp monster" where he looked great in training camp/preseason, but disappeared in the regular season. Seeing him try to pick up a first down was maddening as he would try and slant and come short of the marker, but if he went straight he would have picked up the first down. Yesterday, he was very impressive, what a difference a real QB will do for a player, plus the Pats are using him much more effectively instead of him running short routes.

Is this even a legitimate question? What I think is more depressing is that we only had ten years with Jim Kelly, while Brady has been at it since 2001 and shows no signs of slowing down. Brady is also remarkably durable. What is this guy taking? Go Falcons!

Can't believe it's been 23 years since the Bills were last in the AFC Championship game. Man I miss seeing the Bills in meaningful games in January.

+1