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Not saying this is what I want The Bills to do...because it's not...But I'm about 100% convinced they are going Miller/Ponder with #3 and #34...

At this point I really do agree Pete... I was watching the Film of the Missouri Offense vs. The Iowa D in the Bowl Game...With the amount that Gabbert was asked to throw the Ball, the quickness he gets it out, his arm strength, his intelligence, leadership, the fact that he is crystal-clean off the field, the fact that he LOVES Football...I don't know...I just feel The Bills are eventually going to regret passing that Kid in a HUGE way...

Not to pick you apart or anything...But when a guys College Coach questions whether or not he can stand up and play OLB, you HAVE to question his capability... I don't claim to be an expert...But just about everyone I've heard when talking about Quinn says he's a 4-3 DE and nothing more...Even Butch Davis was very clear that Quinn's best position was at DE in a 4-3...He's a MAJOR projection as a 3-4 OLB...Not saying he can't do it...Just saying...Furthermore, just today on NFL Network they said there is an awful lot of concern about Quinn being a 3 Down DE, even in a 4-3, because he's just not very good at holding the edge vs. the Run...I gotta say this is the EXACT type of reports I was hearing about Maybin a couple weeks before the Draft...Quinn is a heck of an athlete...But if he's not in the right system I think he's going to struggle...And I don't think he's a fit for The Bills 3-4 at all...Not even close... I would however LOVE to see the Bills Trade Down a bit, pick up a couple extra Picks, and still end up with Gabbert, Miller, Newton, Fairley, or Jordan in Round #1...Then use those extra Picks to get back into the bottom of the 1st to grab Mallett or Ponder (assuming they don't Draft Gabbert)...

I should say too with all my support for Gabbert I'm about 100% sure they are going to take Miller... I guess it would not seem as bad to me if we had not been feeling the sting of similar choices for years now...I just feel like, at this point...Who knows how Gabbert will play as a Buffalo Bills QB?...I really have no idea...But chances are, with the luck of this Franchise, if we pass on him he's gonna be the next Montana...

So the question is...How are Bills Fans going to feel if Fitz does not cut it, we still don't have a QB behind him, and we win just enough to have zero chance at Andrew Luck?...Remember...If Fitz falls off in 2011 there is almost zero chance he'll be around in 2012...And this is The Buffalo Bills we're talking about here...Preparing for the worst case situation should be S.O.P... And if that happens I'm guessing ALL the Fitz backers would give their left arm for Gabbert at that point... Not saying that will happen...Just saying...

Gotta say the "we might get Luck next year" excuse is the weakest of all "why we should not Draft a QB" excuses...If you said that in front of Nix and Gailey they would laugh you out of the room...The Bills have NO intention of Drafting this high next year regardless of who they take...You just don't plan to be bad...It's stupid, weak, and for losers...

VERY true... But if you're starting with a Kid like Gabbert who has a ton of potential and will be able to sit and learn for at least a year that is the best way to start...The Bills do have some parts already (Jackson, Spiller, Johnson, Nelson, Woody, etc...)...If they grab Gabbert, get at least one good free Agent O-lineman, and spend a 1st-3rd on an O-Lineman next year, they'll have decent talent up front and a group that can begin to play with NE and NY... We'll see...I still think they're going to go the Miller/Ponder route...But we'll see...

Interesting... Fitz has now started 35 Games...In his last 5 Starts he was 2-3...86-156 (55%)...5 TD's to 6 INT's... You keep comparing him to one of the best QB's of All Time...Go ahead...Just be prepared to be disappointed... For the record I hope I'm wrong about Fitz...I like the guy...I just think he's WAY too up and down and the reason he had some success last year was due to Gailey and catching D's unprepared...2011 is the true test for Fitz...We'll see soon enough...

Are we talking next year only? I'm not the biggest Newton Fan around...I'd rather have Gabbert...But I would not bet that Ryan Fitzpatrick with a Career Passer Rating of 73.0, and his career 12-23 Record as a Starter is going to be better than Newton just yet...We'll see in a few years...But Fitz is no guarantee right now and Newton is absolutely full of talent...Albeit RAW talent... It's a bit early to make that call is all I'm saying...

I definitely want Gabbert at #3...Though admittedly I really have no idea how good he'll end up being with The Bills...One thing I do feel, like a burning wound in my gut, is that IF The Bills pass on that Kid...Some how, some way, he's going to end up being the next Joe Montana... I guess that's part of being a Bills Fan right?

So how good do you think The Bills would be eventually if Gailey actually HAD a Franchise QB to work with? Like I keep saying Folks...Shoot a little higher...

Oh man that's good stuff...

That HAS to be the funniest one I've read around here in a while...That's hilarious...

He was like 6-2-210 coming out...I've never heard a single word about him moving to TE and even though he's a decent sized WR he would be WAY short and small for TE... I don't understand why his name is coming up as a possible TE? Because someone said he looked big at these workouts? Did he grow 3 inches?...

Mayock has not been high on Newton since the get-go basically...He was getting frustrated at The Combine when it was Tim Tebow 2.0 times 1000 with Newton...At one point, I think it was on TE/O-Line Day, Mayock got noticeably upset on the set when Eisen kept steering the conversation towards Newton...Throughout this process Mayock has been critical of Newton, even having Jake Locker ahead of him on his Big Board up until a couple weeks ago...MM is MUCH higher on Gabbert as a Pro Prospect QB than Newton...And he has been consistently conservative when it comes to projecting Newton's future as an NFL Signal Caller...I promise you if Newtron goes #1 to Carolina he'll have a few choice words to say on Draft Night...Just seems to me he's not exactly on Team Cam...

Rudolph for sure... Can The Bills PLEASE get a top TE someday?

You are 100% right about one thing... A LOT of people will disagree with that...

Dilfer? He laughed too...There are others...But I hear what you're saying...I'm no Deion on TV Fan either...Though I do think he's better than Michael Irvin...

If you're driving what?...

No, I said he was laughing about Fitz...And then I said "experts..." The quotations were purposeful...And he may not be an expert on QB's...But he sure as hell is an expert on how to Defend against them...Don't let his act fool you....The guy knows Football...He's not an idiot...He just acts like one sometimes...And I would definitely take his opinion over a lot of Bills Fans...Not all, but a lot...

Exactly... It's SO hard for some Bills Fans to grasp this because we have Drafted SO poorly and have so many needs it's really insane...But if you're going to gamble do it at the QB Position...Because you're gambling on greatness...Von Miller could become a Pro Bowl Player and still not have close to the impact Gabbert would have IF he became a Top 10 NFL QB (and I know that's a BIG if)...It's like a free ticket to the Playoffs 4 out of every 5 years...QB is King...That's all there is to it...

That's completely false...It was the NFL Draft Advisory Committee-thing that made Gabbert's choice to come out an easy one...He would still be thought of as a Top 10 QB and Cincy would be REAL happy right now...

Right...Nobody knows anything unless they agree with you...And you're comparing Fitz to Players who accomplished WAY more than Fitz has shown he can so far...But that's OK...You're on record...You love the guy...That's cool... I know plenty about The Bills...Have not missed a single Down of Football in 20 years now...I don't think Fitz is the answer...These are ex Players who have forgotten more abut NFL Football than most of us know...They may not see every Down...But they don't have to...They played the Game at a high level...They just know...Like I said they could be wrong...But the overriding opinion on Fitz is he's not good enough to be a Franchise/Playoff caliber QB...Only Fitz is going to be able to change that opinion of him...But you can't deny the general feeling in the NFL Community is that Fitz is not good enough...That opinion is there and it's prevalent...You would be denying the truth... We'll see who is right in time...I'm not saying Fitz can't be the man...I'm only saying I doubt it...And if I'm wrong I'll have PLENTY of company...

Gabbert is definitely a better pure athlete than Bradford...Bradford was awfully accurate in College though...Much more so that Gabbert...I know talent around them had something to do with it, but I still think Bradford is the better pure Passer...Arm strength is probably about the same...Right now I would take Bradford for sure...But in a couple years who knows?