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That sums it up DM. The D line especially in the middle was getting manhandled most of the game. Not sure how you can construct a roster with only 2 good DT's. Injuries happen every game at every level of football. Phillips Settle and Ford are all lousy. We have no young guys who are up and comers, that can back up Oliver and D Jones??!! That is terrible roster construction. Settle has been a huge bust like Jefferson and the other big DT we signed as a free agent a few years ago. And Jordan Phillips is done. Does absolutely nothing at this point. Our LB's are small. Bernard and Williams can move. But neither are fierce tacklers. And they are young. They will get better. But we need more physicality at the position. The toughest tackler on the defense without Milano playing is probably Taron Johnson who is maybe 5'8. That will not work all game, or all season. The clock is ticking on his next injury. A little man taking on bigger men will only last so long. (You can be a black belt all you want, but if I bring a gun to the fight I like my chances regardless if I know martial arts or not.) And speaking of Taron, (who I think is a hell of a football player) why is he covering Mike Geseki one on one at the end of the game? That is a horrible matchup period. McDermott could be fired just for allowing that. Some serious self evaluation needs to happen real quick for this team over the next 4 days. Because Baker Mayfield is coming in. And while he is nothing special. He thinks he is. And thinks he can beat any team on any given day.

That's a very astute post. We don't have one above average O lineman on the roster. They were awful today for the most part in pass protection.. Our OT's are terrible relative to other teams w good QB's Dawkins at best is average. And Brown is bad most games. Knox would not be a starter on almost every NFL team. He is a back up. And the D line was lousy today also. Settle Phillips and Ford should not be on an NFL roster at this point. They were steamrolled in the middle today. Guys like Phillips and Lawson are not the guys you want playing if you are thinking a deep playoff run. Good guys. Marginal NFL talent at this point in their careers. The talent level on the team is just not that great. And losing Tre Milano D Jones and Oliver is brutal. As they are 4 of the most talented players we have.

I think that is a good start. He lost the team after 13 seconds. That was bad enough. But not accepting any accountability for what happened, was his death knell. Team looks lost and lifeless for big stretches. We came off a 28 point win against MIami with 3 terrible performances. That should never happen with Josh Allen as our QB. Letting Mack Jones shred us today especially on the last drive is unacceptable.

I am not whining clown. The offense was ***** 3 out of 6 games this year. And you are agreeing with me.

Shakir and Kincaid could move the chains if we played them in the slot and had them run routes in the middle of the field like Beasley used to. Get Knox on the bench. He has bad hands and doesn't run well. Go with Kincaid Shakir Davis and Diggs with Cook or Murray in the backfield as our regular offense and the offense would be much more fluid. Knox slows the entire offense down. Teams that run a lot of 12 personnel usually have 2 TE's that can get down the field. I think back to the old Patriots of Gronk and Hernandez. I think that Morris has more upside then Knox at this point.

I agree. The guy is tough, big and reasonably fast. We would do well to keep him for a couple more years in the RB committee. A class act leader type of veteran. These are the kinds of guys that are the glue to championship type teams.

Look at his stats against Notre Dame last week. Sure he is a talent. But so was Bryce Young. And he looks totally overmatched at the NFL level. The hype machine on college QB's is ridiculous. Its a totally different game playing QB in college versus the pros. Very few guys coming out of college live up to the hype that the NFL offseason leading up to the draft presents. Look at the quarterbacking in the NFL on the whole. Its pretty awful right now. Most NFL games are barely watchable right now from an offensive standpoint. Broncos-Chiefs last Thursday nite. Even w Mahomes. It was 19-8. Bills-Giants even w Josh Allen was 14-9. And those are the two most talented QB's in the NFL. Jags-Saints tonite will be a grinder too. Its painful watching Derrick Carr play QB.

That's all fine and good. But they are wasting the talent of Kincaid having him staying in to block and chip DE's. If they wanted a guy to do what Kincaid has been doing, they should have just kept Tommy Sweeney for that matter and drafted a stud OT in the first round to play next to Torrence. Lousy roster management. Lousy scheme. Lousy play calling. The biggest weakness on this year's Buffalo Bills besides the unfortunate injuries is the coaching of the offense. And more specifically the coaching by our OC. We are running an offense from the 1980's.

That's a great analysis of the refereeing in the game. I thought the roughing against Josh when we were driving was a weak call against the Jags. But I also thought the call against Poyer was weak. Lighting up a WR used to be a big part of the game. Unless you lead with your helmet into his face, I think its a fair play. I did not think it was egregious contact. The PI on Taron Johnson down the sideline was crap too. He did not impede the receiver from making a play on the ball. The ball was underthrown. Referee Sean Smith is lousy. His crew always calls a lot of penalties. And there is usually a lot of confusion when he refs a game. I don't like the guy. The game was way over officiated. We just got nothing call wise in the game. What about losing the challenge on the pass over the middle that was called complete? Guy went to the ground and lost the ball. How was that ruled a catch? (I was in a bar in Detroit watching the game and the sound on the TV was not loud. And there were a lot of Lions' fans pregaming.) Way too many illegal hands to the face and illegal man downfield penalties being called in general this year. Let these guys play unless the penalty is egregious. Its big and fast men playing a physical game. Let them have at it. The refereeing on the whole is pretty lousy in how games overall are officiated in today's NFL.

Good point on the lack of pre snap motion in our offense. McDermott has a lot on his plate leading the defense. And especially w all the injuries. But the man is our head coach. I sure hope he looks at the offensive film and has a heart to heart w Dorsey about changing things up some going forward. You can have great players. But everyone gets paid to out scheme each other in the NFL. Most coaching staffs are pretty good at figuring things out after a while if you do not change things up. (Except for the Washington Commanders)

Our offensive scheme is terrible. We draft a stud TE in the first round and he hasn't been thrown one ball more then 10 yards down the field in 5 games. His avg distance of passes caught is under 4 yards. He is used exactly like Knox, who is a mediocre athlete w below avg hands. Sherfield Shakir and Harty all can make plays, but they are either not on the field or not thrown to down the field. The offense should be ashamed of what took place against the Jaguars. We have the most talented QB in the NFL hands down, and we are throwing 3 yard outs for almost the entire first half. Shame on Ken Dorsey. His play calling and scheme is a joke. They want to handcuff Josh Allen into a Trent Edwards Teddy Bridgewater clone. That does not win in the NFL. Watch what the 49ers do with their passing game. All crossing patterns DOWN the field. I was disgusted by the offensive game plan against the Jags. We should have been up by at least 21-11 at halftime w the ability of this offense. And ran away and hid in the second half. This was the same garbage we saw against the Jets. Dorsey coaches scared anytime we play a solid defense. We can still have a great season regardless of who is playing defense for us. But get rid of the 5 yard out passes. They don't work in today's NFL. You need at least 3 guys running at least 15 yards down the field on every pass play. You have to pressure the opposing defense. Secondaries are not that good. Kincaid not running vertically is shocking to me. If I am Brandon Beane I have a meeting w Dorsey and McDermott and explain why we drafted Kincaid in the 1st round. And btw Josh looked absolutely disgusted w how the game played out in the second half. I can't imagine he doesn't have a say in how the offense is run.

Hands down the worst of the bunch is Rivera. The team barely tries under him. Giving up 40 pts to the Bears at home is a joke. And kicking the FG on 4th and 3 in the second half when down after that great run by Howell lost the team. And btw that new owner Harris is a joke. Laughing in the owners box when your team is losing to the Bears. Not a good look. Can't imagine Ralph ever looking happy when the Bills were losing.

I could not agree with you more Utah. I watched Edmonds the entire second half. He is terrible. Does nothing. Just floats around in the middle of the field. I give him 2 years at most w the Bears. Heck, I could see him on the bench by the latter part of the season. The guy is not long for the NFL. Bills did right letting him go. Bernard is a much better player.

You think he was better then Fitzie? Why are we bringing back guys from the draught era anyways? They won nothing. Isn't it enough to just go and root for a championship caliber team in the present? All the extra is just that extra. There are a few draught era guys who played like champions. Kyle Williams, Fred Jackson, Terrance McGhee and maybe Aaron Schobel come to mind. But the organization should be focused on the present unless they are putting someone on the Wall. As for Orton, he had his moments. But the slide was weak. Just like Cam Newton not diving for the fumble against the Broncos in the Super Bowl.

Its a long business trip Gunner. We aren't going across the pond until Friday. We have a lot of veterans. This team will be prepared. I see Lawrence going down hard. Bills win going away 34-17.

Every team has a lot to prove every week and every season. That's what happens when there are only 17 regular season games. Each one matters a lot. This team looks very good right now. Big difference this season. Our O line and D line look a lot stronger. And McDermott is running the defense and is more aggressive in his scheme and play calling then Frazier ever was. Also the running game looks better. Murray and Harris are bigger then the smurfs we have had running the ball for the past 5 years. And Bernard is a better player for our defense then Edmunds was. He is a playmaker. A junior Milano. Overall we are a more physical team this year. Of course its only 4 games. But yesterday was a statement win for what this team can do.

The kickoff return play is very exciting. Kickoffs should have stayed at the 30 yard line. More would be returned that way. The NFL wants to take any and all violent high speed collisions out of the game. The hard hit on supposed defenseless receivers is ridiculously enforced. Intimidation can not be part of a defensive game plan any longer. The numbers put up by WR's today is because the game is basically a physical brand of touch football. Receivers don't have to worry about suffering serious injury like in yesteryear. Another annoyance of today's game is the amount of long FG's made. Teams get to the opponents 40 yard line, and out trots the kicker. I am amazed at how far these little guys can kick a football. Is the ball different then it was in the 70's 80's and 90's? I was happy when Justin Tucker's 61 yard kick to win the game against the Colts was SHORT!

The 3rd and 12 little out pass to Diggs behind the line of scrimmage in the second half when we were driving inside the Washington 35 and we got nothing on it was a terrible call as well. It wasn't 3rd and 3. Get our WR's down the field in that situation. Bad call!! And yes the 4th and inches pass was awful as well. Need to clean those types of play calls up this week. And stop running reverses to WR's. It just doesn't work in the NFL anymore with the speed of defenses. Its not college football. I also hope we can get Kincaid involved running vertically up the field. I can not imagine we drafted him in the first round to catch 5 yard outs to the sideline. That all being said, the O line was tremendous yesterday against a pretty stout front 7. Kudos to them. If they keep that up, we will be very tough to beat. And the TD pass from Josh to Gabe was a thing of beauty. You can not run that play any better. Tremendous by QB and WR!!

The Chargers offense can score points. They move the football. Watch the Dolphins and Titan games. The offense did not lose them the games. Their defense is overrated. Bosa and Mack are names. But neither is dominant game in and game out. Mack used to be. But no longer. And Bosa always seems to be nicked up or injured. (He is certainly not at the level of his brother) Their secondary was atrocious against the Dolphins. The middle was open all game. Herbert is kind of a wimpy version of Josh Allen. He doesn't run like Josh, lead like Josh, or improvise on the move like Josh. But the guy can still throw the football. Reminds me of a poor man's version of Dan Marino the way he passes the ball. On a more general note. The NFL is not the offensive game that it was turning into a few years ago. There are a handful of really dynamic QB's. The majority are decent to *****. Just look at the Steelers-Browns game from Monday nite. It was a very entertaining game. But Watson and Pickett were mediocre at best, and at some points downright awful. That's what you get from most QB's in today's NFL.

Does it really matter??!! The Bears organization is a total tire fire with accelerant. Poorly run from top to bottom. And talking up Justin Fields is putting lipstick on a pig.

That's an interesting theory about Edmunds. The Bears have a losing culture. Did Edmunds do anything positive to make a difference for the Bears in either of their first two games? He was not a difference maker for the Bills in his 5 years. But he didn't need to be because he had Milano Poyer Hyde Trey White and some pretty good D lineman around him. The Bears just looked at his physical stature, and maybe his tackle numbers. But they obviously did not look at his film. Because he was not nearly the difference maker he could have been. And made a lot of tackles 5+ yards downfield. He plays slow because he has no instincts for the game. That's why the Bears are the Bears. They pay 18 mill to an average player at a position that is not nearly as important as it used to be. And the Bills are the Bills because we let that player walk, and are playing a guy at a fraction of the cost who will at least be the player that Edmunds is if not better (Bernard) because he has instincts for the position and works hard.

While not a great QB, I think that Marc Bulger was better in his prime then two thirds of the QB's starting in the NFL right now. Obviously not HOF material. But he could wing it around. Someone remind me where he played college ball.

All good picks. Although Willie McGinest is a real deuche of a human being. And he was a Patriot on top of his deuchiness. Antonio Gates is an all timer in my book. I would also give serious consideration to Torey Holt Julius Peppers Patrick Willis and Reggie Wayne. And punter Shane Lechler. The best punter of all time. Sorry Ray Guy, but you were great way back when. But not as good as Lechler in the modern era. And James Harrison. He was one bad ass player. I don't think he could even play in today's game. LOL Ruben Brown was a good O lineman. Never thought he was an all pro player. And definitely not an all timer. For ***** and giggles who do you think had a better career as a Bill. Ruben Brown or Kyle Williams?

That's a good point. Because he could not cover Amari Cooper to save his life last night.

In the 80's 90's and early 2000's there was tons of fights at the games, in the parking lots, everywhere. It was drunken mayhem all around. That was the Rich Stadium experience. Especially when a heated rival came to town, like Jets Pats or Fins. And of course the Raider gangster types. I remember growing up in Buffalo and going out partying at the bars back in the 80's and early 90's, it was like that everywhere in the city back then. The bouncers would kick your ass if you got out of line. Its not like that for the most part in general anymore. Society is just a lot tamer and not as rough. But occasionally things can get out of hand. Someone says something real rude to your lady or gets in your face, its gonna be on. But its very unfortunate that a fan died.