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Coach Marrone took over a 6 win team. Coach Ryan took over a 9 win team.

Give Rex Tommy and we're 10-1.

Probably his career record. I just go by Bills record. That's all I care about. I'm sure Mularkey's career percentage is probably lower as well.

I've read this on here several times. Coach Marrone wouldn't want McCoy. How do you figure? Marrone was a run/ground and pound guy. Seems that kind of guy would want one of the best RBs in the NFL. No? Besides, Whaley handled the 53 and Marrone the 43 or however many guys are active on game day.

Reasons for what? With the exception of Carson Palmer (so far) all of them have gotten to at least the conference championship and weren't drafted by that team. what's your point? You wouldn't want any of them because they weren't drafted by the team that they had success with? The original premise was that the only way you get a franchise QB is by drafting him. I just pointed out exceptions.

Ooops !! Sorry. While true in many cases, far from true in all cases. Leave no stone unturned. Don't pigeon-hole yourself into one strategy. Stakes are too high for that.

My point was just that there is an alternative to drafting, which you said was the only way. Sure, some of them were acquired in trades, but none of them were drafted by the team they played the best for. We should be on the look out and try to trade for someone who has had success at the NFL level and now seems to have issues like a neck problem or a shoulder injury or on the outs with his team for some reason. In the off season we'll see what happens. And draft somebody. Leave no stone unturned is my point.

Yes, they do. Peyton Manning Drew Brees Kurt Warner Carson Palmer Jay Cutler Alex Smith Matt Hasselbeck (definitely franchise in mid 2000s) Randall Cunningham (took Vikings to NFC Championship late in career. Vikings lost due to missed FGs, several) Brett Favre (took Vikings to NFC Championship late in career.) Steve Young Brad Johnson Yeah we can draft and develop a QB (like that ever works). I'd prefer to see us use the Arizona Cardinals model. Find some QB who has had success and maybe seen as having lost it or whatever, and pounce (and win). Yes he was. You do realize he, like Tyrod, didn't play for his first 3 or 4 years, right?

This is probably true to a degree. But doesn't seem to be the case with Aaron Rodgers and Brock Oswieler. College game, especially for a QB, is so different from college, a guy's gotta do a lot of book learning too in addition to learning by fire. Maybe it's better to not try to do both at once?

I haven't forgotten. However, we don't have the D we were promised and won't for the foreseeable future it seems. IF Tyrod were playing a only a little better, we could still be winning. ie. not underthrowing 4 long passes vs Patsies**, not stopping throwing it to Sammy in 2nd half vs Cheaps, not throwing a pick on the first play vs Patsies** in the first game, not fumbling so much, etc. I believe that's where the heartburn is coming from. When you don't have a good D, your offense and QB must step up. In the game where out D crumbles, that's not happening. Sure, he was only going to be a game manager, but now we need more. Can he deliver? So far, mixed results. That said, ride him out the rest of the season and see what we got. If you keep dumping QBs after 10-20 games if they aren't Joe Montana, you'll likely never have a good QB. Overall I've been happy with a lot of his play.

I was at the game where the Bills trounced the playoff bound Seahawks. So it wasn't all peaches and cream.

Billy Buffalo

Crazier things HAVE happened.

You're dreaming.

Having Hackett Jr. As a rookie QB coach AND OC didn't help much either.

Maybe so, but Bledsoe was better, so far. I was going to post that Bledsoe was the best of the century so far, but Frank beat me to it.

I'd take CK on the Bills in 1/2 of a NY heartbeat.

Yet I (and many TBDers I suspect) would trade Tyrod heads up for any one of the guys you mentioned.

How do you know this? At this point I'd be even curious as what makes you think so.

"You should never leave yourself in a position where 1 bad call can lose the game for you." -- Tom Landry We all know how this works. Bad teams don't get the calls where good teams do. That's why a team on the rise needs to go balls out to score as many points as humanly possible so the refs can't screw them as easily. Thinking you're going to break through by playing close games and winning with defense is a recipe for disaster for a team like us. See the Dick Jauron era (which the Rex era is reminding me more and more of every game).

Yes. In 1982 or so, the Cowboys played Washington in the final game of the season at Texas Stadiu,. Washington entered with a one game lead. Cowboys won on some Roger Staubach to Tony Hill late game heroics and Cowboys won tie breaker and Washington went fishing. It was great. I was at that game.

As of right now, Coach Marrone's winning percentage with the Bills is higher than Rex' with a larger sample size. So for now, I'd agree. Rex' team reminds me of a Dick Jauron coached Bills team. Underperforming offense, bend and sometimes break defense, and a lot of losses in games we should win.

I saw a challenge in that game that ticked me off. Pete Carroll couldn't find his challenge flag so he whispered in the refs ear that he wanted a challenge and they gave it to him. This is what irritates me about NFL referring. The rule says a challenge is requested when a red flag is thrown. No red flag thrown, no challenge. It's not complicated. Follow the rules. Then there is consistency as opposed to the refs using their own judgement and bending the rules as they see fit.

Tyrod does not suck IMHO. However, I do think he should sweet talk EJ into giving him Steve DeBerg's phone number so he can work on pocket presence/awareness in the off season. He also needs to learn to step into the pocket. In yesterday's game it looked to me like he had good protection. But he wants to hold onto the football too long. Once the pocket starts to break down he bails and runs to the sidelines. Several times yesterday when the pass rushers started to get to him from the defensive ends, there was nice clean pocket in front of him to step into and get a little more time. He didn't do that. Instead he tried to fish hook out and run to the sidelines. If Drew Brees is not too short to work from the pocket then neither is EJ. He just needs Steve or somebody to work with him on working in the pocket. Tyrod is certainly accurate enough.