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:thumbsup: Could not agree more; this is a failed organization - 15 years - tear it down and start again with competent proven football people. :thumbsup:

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This is a failed organization, for 15 years; poor coaching, poor drafting, and the bottom line - last playoff appearance 1999. Clean house and start over or one year from now we will be having the same discussion. What about the O-Line and a premier running back?

Totally agree, I'm not opposed to LA getting a team and do not dispute the cities economic ability to support it, I would hate to see a true NFL city lose its team to a lukewarm fan base for corporate boxes and TV revenue. When and if that happens, it is a sad day for the fans who have supported this league since it came of age in 1957.

OK, great I stand corrected, but still no answer to "Why did LA lose two teams an the city remain void of an NFL franchise for over twenty-years?" I got it regarding the Dodgers, Lakers, UCLA and USC - however they do not compete in the NFL.

Again, if it's such a winner and the fans so great why could they not hold the Rams or Raiders, or put a team there over the last twenty years. Some cities have other entertainment, cultural, and sports interests other than the NFL, TV and corporate boxes are great and costly but you still need a fan base. During my visits to SD and LA you see people actually enjoying the outdoors, boating, biking, surfing, hang gliding, and other entertainment value. This is competition to the NFL for the discretionary spending dollar and while I am sure a team would provide a passing fancy, I see a stadium on a fall afternoon three-quarters full yawning at the action AKA 1985 and Eric Dickerson.

The concept of luxury boxes sounds good on paper, you still need a loyal fan base. As stated, if LA is so great why no team for over twenty years. These wealthy LA Corporations could have easily influenced the NFL Corp HQ to put a team there, again, LA sucks as a sports town.

Great post. The whole NFL has had the opportunity to grab LA forever, if its such a great market why no takers. LA is a very competitive town for disposable income, especially the entertainment dollar. I attended a Rams game in 1985 with Eric Dickerson at his peak, lots of empty seats and a boring "who cares" atmosphere.

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Link, source, anything? Who and/or where did you hear this?

It was a clean hit!!! It was a clean hit!!! Come on, do you people follow football seriously. It was a clean hit! Hits like this happen each play in every game. Give me a break. For blocking!!

Good Night Irene!

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GB 34 - BUFF 17

If the Bills can play ball control throughout the fourth quarter they have a shot. Denver will not run the ball, the Bills defensive backfield still has no shutdown CBs, they will put the ball in the air and count on the dominating O Line to protect Manning. If the Bills pull it out, it is truly a historic game that would save the coaching staff, FO, and scouting department.

Ah, common sense, thank you! This post gets my vote for the most entertaining of the 2014 season!

The Bills get a clinic on how a playoff team conducts business in December, by 17 points! I agree any team can beat any given team on any given Sunday, and if the Bills win will be more than happy to eat crow. But by the time Christmas hits, this board will be alive with discussions and debates regarding the 2015 season - and the focus will not be playoff opponents in January.

1980 defense pretty good too, 64 definitely the best.

Try Ernie Arcosi and it aint stupid!!

No foolishness at all, the Bills are in the position they are in due to ten years of mismanagement and poor coaching; an average team that will have everyone thinking playoffs but never getting there.

Lets face facts, the Bills are not a playoff team, I am happy we are playing games that mean something in December like any fan should be. While they are not a contender at the moment, they can be fairly quick. Hopefully the Pegula's clean house, real quick and put a new FO, scouting department and HC in place real quick. This will build upon a good defense and hopefully we start drafting better. If the right moves are made we can make a real run next year.

Tell me, what is the color of they sky on your planet?

And in January the Bills will be watching the playoffs on TV...Yay! Since 1999.... yay!

Define good?