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Sorry in advance for running on a bit. But I just wanted not throw it out there to see if maybe a few people agree. Dobbins’ ‘20 great 1st year 134 800yds 6ypc 9TDs but tore ACL in ‘21 camp, missed all of 2021 and the first two games of 2022 before returning for eight games (93/520/5.7/2TDs) but then another knee injury sidelined him six weeks. Tore Achilles first game last year (surgeon cleared him 13 hours ago and said he was outstanding puts rep on the line with NFL). Spotrac has Dobbins $2.1M mkt value (probably prove it contract)—Ty is only signing for $1.29M. With Darrynton Evans a “futures contract”, is it possible for us to have an RB2/3 tandem with Dobbins’ (and his super high ceiling) for $3.4M. With Dobbins to getting “outstanding” clearance yesterday from his surgeon what would you think about our medical team checking him out and then rolling the dice for a reasonable amount of money (perhaps less than Latavius last year). We could have had a potentially healed super high ceiling in Dobbins and some good camp competition with Ty. And, if Cooks ever went down a healthy and healed Dobbins could be almost like not missing a beat and then adding in Ty would be very nice. Brady could have a lot of fun. 🥳

Perfect!!

The Titans also had to give him a 4 year $76M contract with $55M guaranteed. He was the number two FA CB behind Jaylon Johnson (CHI). Sure KC had several legitimate potential trading partners. But, as we learned, escaping at the right time from not being able to afford salary cap number increases is a tremendous factor in most trades nowadays (unless you’re Denver!!).

Bates move still has me worried. Guy is with us for five years, plays every OL position, FO clearly values and judges his talent highly as evidenced by matching the ‘22 CHI offer sheet and keeping him here for five years. I’m all for developing young players like Alec Anderson and Van Denmark (and a ‘24 draft pick). But the difference between signing Clapp at up to $1.5M (or even a couple hundred grand less) as the back up depth at C, along with Anderson who literally has no game snaps at C, to McGovern who had 100 snaps at C (apparently at Penn St. 5-8 years ago and has none since four years in NFL), makes me feel a lot less safer than if we had scraped together $2M more to get Bates to his $4M for one more year on a SB contending team. And, Bates has the same significant depth for the entire OL like we had last year but who everyon agreed we were extremely luckily that we didn’t need to tap into it. I think we’d all agree that on a SB contending team having one more year with quality and extremely versatile depth on an OL that lucked out with no injuries last year would be better off with Bates. As for the fifth round pick, even giving Beane a higher success rating it’s still a coin toss.

That was the perfect trap game look back at that brutal part of the schedule and where we were mentally and also with all the travel. Not a game to judge us for except for getting the win, as ugly as it was compared to the relative talent of the two rosters. IMHO.

And, we definitely one draft too—if things fall the way it appears we might go DL first (could be very good value there—BPA) and then trade up in the 2nd to get our future WR1 (a year to develop as Samuel takes some heat off of Diggs and then three years of production and cap-tastic fun courtesy of the rookie contract—gotta nail this pick 🤞). Thanks. Thanks for the great inside scoop, gonzo. Could be a nice (smart) snag by Beane. He’s surely locked in (probably hasn’t finished his brackets yet!).

Know we’re not big fans of PFF on TBD but it’s just interesting to see their opinion--they gave Austin Johnson an overall rating of 45.7 which is very low compared with what I’ve seen with other players. By comparison Daquan was an 86.0. Which is why we paid him $8M per. Calais Campbell at 37 yrs old got an 80.0. That’s why he got $7M last year and will likely be close again. Not expecting a low cost FA DT to be rated very high but with Johnson getting such a low rating makes me nervous. Jerry Tillery got a 67.7 and $2.75M for one year. Settle a 57.1 and got $3M per for two. Just gives you some comparative analysis so we can be realistic with our expectations (whether or not we agree with PFF). FWIW.

I’m more interested in what Josh will do after he picks up our first Lombardi Trophy.

More like they played with themselves like they didn’t know how to. 🤪.

Peter Schrager asked Bill Parcells "If you had the chance to start your NFL team with any player you've ever seen, coached, coached against who would be that one player in NFL history you'd start your team with?" Parcells response: "There are priority positions in this game, quarterback is one of those, so I consider that," Parcells began. "But if you're pinning me down -- I'm a little prejudiced -- I think I'd take Lawrence Taylor." Coach Billicheat: "I would just say I wouldn't put anybody ahead of Lawrence Taylor, period," said Belichick. "Maybe I'm prejudiced, he continued. "but I saw that guy every day for over a decade and he tilted the field for a decade. Until somebody does that, and there's a lot of great players. I'm not taking anything away from anybody else. There's a lot of great players that have been in this league, that are in this league, but personally, I'm not putting anybody ahead of Lawrence Taylor. Not yet."

“The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry”. Sadly, after watching the WRs go at the Combine this came right into my mind (Thomas appears to be the delineated drop off point and we ain’t sniffing his used Combine unitard … that said, the history of the league is littered with so many alleged instances of bad prognostication).

Just make sure you do it after he trades Sheppard for Hughes. 😉

But AJ has a nicer couch to wait on for the come in and cover Kelce phone call.

For us that means a nice juicy 6th rounder (so Beane can move up two spots in the 5th!).

Thanks, Jrb, I hope it works out that way. I can still remember all of the excitement before we landed Mario Williams. It’s fun to be in the fight to land a big fish that can change the season (please no one bring up Von “DV” Miller).

I’m still wondering about leaving $13 million that we desperately needed this year on the table by not taking full advantage of reworking Josh’s contract to the max benefit—even those talking heads we all hate but who do know a bit more than us were also confused by that move. That $13 million or part thereof could have landed us a one year prove it WR (aside from Ridley or “Hollywood”) Check Spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/wide-receiver/. And, another one year prove it defensive player (in round three of FA).

5th round (since we get one round less than expected).

Too bad he’ll never be able to steal the one man he needs … and on a serious note he should have actually traded us for Bates addresses multiple positions of dire need for NYG OL as starter and/or depth and NYG has the cap room and draft capital. NYG 4th / 106 (80) for our 4th /127 (45) and one of our three 5ths and one of our three 6ths (don’t think they’ll be as useful as the player we’d get to jump 21 picks in the 4th).

I think he’s just reacting to the events of the past few days like many of us have been except he’s losing some of his oldest and closest friends. I think he’s also saying he wants to stay in Buffalo. He’s invested in the community, after all he was our Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee for the second year in a row for his work in Buffalo. I think he’s sincere, a bit of an open book who appears to wear his emotions on his sleeves (which isn’t the best thing to do).

I did some more due diligence and found this interesting article, supports your optimism and gives me some confidence about McGovern: https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-connor-mcgovern-buffalo-bills-comparison-offensive-line-blocking-criticism-mike-mccarthy Now I’m done for the day. But, this “exchange” with you is why I really love TBD. Thanks.

I guess all of us Bills’ fans have all felt that way over the years. ☮️ brother, we’re all in this together.

I hope you’re right. I just get very nervous about having a OL that can protect Josh and last year’s did. The sting of losing Morse is the only move that I haven’t liked. But, you’re right. Kromer has done a great job with the OL so he must have seen something in both McGovern and Edwards. He’s the expert, I’m just a frustrated fan.

Thanks that’s the purpose of this forum, a free and open forum of discussion for fans. I don’t take it personally. And, I’m venting. Sorry if you missed that.

Don't worry our generational talented QB has a new Center who played 100 snaps at Center while in Dallas. Allen is in great hands. And, don’t tell me there wasn’t anyway Beane could have found a way to keep a team Captain who said as he cleaned out his locker that he wanted to come back. Makes you wonder what he’d have taken. Especially when you throw Trubisky a nice back-up QB contract—maybe we’re planning for an OL breakdown next season.

Derrick Henry will surely take $4 million or 40 cents on the dollar (using Spotrac’s pretty accurate mkt value indicator: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/derrick-henry-18994/market-value/) on one of his last chances for a nice pay day … unless there’s a sealed indictment coming down on him.