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i'd walk away from both or keep hines on a cheaper contract. agree w the above, spend a late pick on a RB and have him be a body, put resources into the o line and pass catchers.

bengals were down 3 linemen, and barely beat the ravens the week before, the ravens w the most athletic UPS driver alive playing QB. the total gutless nature of our D and entire team shows a quit game, that's on the coaches. if the schemes don't work at the highest level, and the motivation leads to a nice run for the bus every season, then why are the coaches not getting upgraded?

dude, it really is just that simple. imagine any other qb driven team, who was the top dog to win the super bowl, having to pull two guys off the street who used to play for them to fill every passing target south of their #1?!?! we lack talent on OL and WR in a huge way, and need fewer 1st and 2nd round picks on the bench in a platooned DL and highly paid older dbs, and more actual guys who score

for the second time i'm thinking of baltimore. i figured they were closer to a chip at the end of the season then we where, given they hung w cinci and had their own 13 seconds type loss. but that was with a pure scrub playing qb and their one time NFL MVP hurt. imagine what we look like w allen out? so anyhow, baltimore ditched their dc last year because they weren't happy. this year they ditched their OC. both of those guys have had equal or greater success than our coordinators, but they still fired the OC after a tough loss on the road to a great team with their best player and qb out. you can frame this as harby looking for scape goats, or you can frame this as baltimore won't accept anything less than getting further towards a championship, but what you cannot deny is that as an organization they are not sitting still and they've won two chips over a period where we are yet to win a road playoff game.

he's a good player, at times a really good player. my take is we already paid a more impacting LB, and we paid and perhaps over paid for some secondary in a d that protects the secondary. with pass rush our D is very effective, without it good qbs eat us alive, and we are just not great vs power running in general. based on this we need to put the money elsewhere (imagine a good LT, move dawkins to LG, what an upgrade!), and for that reason I'M OUT.

lol, is asking millionaire pro athletes to prepare and put in effort in the biggest game of their careers weeks after their teammate has recovered from a traumatic injury the same thing as working a robot to death? hoping management applies a little discretion to the event rather than flip it into a media frenzy, im worse than the spartan's with the helots!!

that was the only bills board i was never an active poster on. bills range, bills zone (i think range came first, and zone and TBD broke off of them, but it's hazy) really did get nuts! the job johnson flutie wars lasted for years. god we had an awful awful team for so long.

if that's true (and i think it is at least more than it is false) then we have a sort of fragile scheme that protects the heck out of the secondary and asks a lot of the DL. in that case, we shouldn't be dropping big cash or high draft picks on corners and safeties. i think the combo of signing tre poy, taron, hyde, and milano to big extensions and drafting elam w a 1st shows a lack of planning. i get signing a couple of them, but they all have gone down at various times with only a small impact on the D (which still sucks in the playoffs in our exit game) but the 34 year old DE who we rotate in with the rest of them goes down and our pass rush goes from deadly to worst in class. looking back at mcd's d in carolina, he made josh norman look like a super star, and had what was considered a generational talent at MLB, but when gregg woman beater hardy went down, that d went from savage to soft. hind sight is 20/20, but based on the above we should be staffing up our DBs w cheap young rookies and signing maybe a couple of them, have some draft pick play along side milano, and we shoulda traded picks to get pass rushers from other teams (we could have had von and chub like denver did instead of say AJ or basham).

it's true our drafting has been pure cheeks outside of josh, but that's not the whole answer. our coaching seems like it is set and forget w josh rescuing us regularly to beat up on the weak and limited, but not enough adjusting/preperation for the big dogs in the playoffs. in terms of roster tho, we don't develop/play rookies enough. that LB having like one bad game and no other exposure, elam sitting so much, cook and shakir sitting behind motor and mckenzie because they made mistakes THAT THE STARTERS MAKE EVEN WORSE THAN THEY DO! i think we have a cultural like union ship mentality that is hurting us. we don't give the new guys enough of a shot (i remember peterman starting over allen, for shame!) and most importantly we over pay for role players who are great "cultural fits". knox was paid a bit too much, you could argue that milano was too (he's a sick player tho, so that's marginal). We run this kinda fragile defensive scheme that relies on pass rush out of 4 platooned DL, but we still paid milano (again player is worth it but investing in the position like that in our D is sus) and paid top 3 corner money for tre, and top safety money for hyde and poyer, and now we are talking big dollars for edmunds? von coming in and falling out made a huge measurable impact in our d, similar (but less) w D Jones. we were a mash unit in the secondary for most of the season and sort of had the same results. imo we need to be smart about where we dump resources, money contracts and draft picks. trading a first for diggs (even tho jefferson woulda been there and turned out great, we don't know we woulda taken him and we didn't know at the time he woulda been there) was actually an astute and great move. signing brown adn bease at the time was great. signing morse was a + move, over paid but good guy. we need more of that (and d jones and perhaps miller, injury will determine) and less aj klien and over paying dbs in a db protecting d.

facts this team has been having family day (coaches players and FO) since Jan 2nd. maybe it was inevitable that the season ended the moment the CPR was administered to damar, but it became a huge distraction that sucked the life out of the building. 3 home games in a row after that day, 3 sub par performances. outright admitting to being tired and taking time off of practice, even in these extreme circumstances, is a black mark on the coaching and leadership. it was 13 seconds last year, now it was this. we need to be more methodical, more ruthless, and less emotional as an organization. Diggs and Milano channeled all of this into motivation, sadly they might have been the only ones.

crazy pills or not, you bring up a good point. i think it came down to what they chose to spend time on, and it all went to fixing what could not be fixed. it would also explain why allen went deep, cuz he doesn't have to worry about these clowns messing up a route.

so, i've read some pretty convincing breakdowns here and elsewhere, and it seems like our biggest issue in the passing game was that davis and mckenzie very often run horrible routes and are in the wrong spot. that's basically why they got the ghosts of bills wrs past late in the year. our OL play was also crazy bad. huge downgrades this season at LG and RT (brown was hurt, i have hope he's better next season). so im guessing with these various issues they never spent the time or the effort to get the rb passing game or screen game going, my guess is saffold is so utterly trash that he can't be counted on for anything, and that sunk the screen game.

look, we may have never won that game even playing our best given injuries and the talent difference/match up, but IMO our annual quit game came at the worst possible time and this was it. we lost after the 2nd or 3rd drive largely because the team quit and that is a result of coaching and preparation perhaps even more so than the players and their emotions

nope. leaning into it so hard, bringing him into the locker room DURING THE GAME in some like made for TV moment, constant media presence. it got out of control and the team lost focus. it took on a life of its own, and instead of it being a buffalo locker room thing, it became a national attention thing. the team should have had visits and interactions w hamlin and kept it in house. the team should have skipped practice and mollycoddled players weeks after the incident. the guy has had a pretty fortunate recovery and it should not have been impacting the team last week.

that gal 12 claws deep has more clarity and heart than half the team and any of the coaches. the cover 1 podcast that came out last night gave great breakdowns -- on O our blocking and schemes weren't good, on D it's teh same thing every playoff, we go from a bit too simple but competent to way to many checks in coverage and still to simply up front. the bigger issue is we came out flat, tired, dead, and unprepared. same as we have since the hamlin injury. this team, coaching staff, whatever was looking for a reason to run for the bus either prior to the cancelled game or the moment hamlin went down. players being tired and having one less practice the week of a playoff game is quite simply not what any winning team has ever done. as far as i can tell milano, diggs, and maybe josh too were the only players who showed up vs cinci.

cover 1 had a podcast that came out yesterday that i watched today (on youtube, can't link it from this machine). anyhow, they broke down how the coverage checks are too multiple and complicated (even said it was like rex's old D) but the upfront calls are too basic and simple during the playoffs. this is why they would clear out the box and run at our nickle back, and why they picked up all the pass rushers. we simply had no schematic solution. our talent was thin too, obv, and we've missed horribly on too many draft picks, but the fact taht daquan jones being out was such a fall off shows me that there are simple solutions, jones wasn't some rare find or super expensive guy, he's just a quality DT who gets mucky.

von millers was 100x bigger. allens' was big, it seems to ahve changed his confidence, and that hurt the whole team. in all honestly, it was hamlin's. aside from it being a life and death situation, the team hasn't had any heart since. maybe a motivated bills team gets beaten in cinci and then in the playoffs goes back there and wins, or at least doesn't put up the gutless stinker we did. also keep in mind we had bad sloppy gaves vs NE and miami, at home.

i think we have to let edmunds and poyer walk. i think tre white, edmunds, poyer and hyde will all be gone after next season. we can't pay players who aren't difference makers

this team has quite on clappy every year, it's just a question of when, and for how long. this year it was the latest in the year we've had a quit, but it was also for the longest and at the worst possible time. NE they beat on emotion and hines, miami they beat because of skylar, cinci won the game about an hour and a half before kick off. skipping the practice the day before is a white flag and it showed.

the team and the coaches took jan 2nd off because of the damar hamlin injury and will be going to back to work right around the start of mini camps. not practicing, players wanting nap time and a safe space, guys out of position, low energy. diggs and milano are right to be disgusted. i totally over rated this team. at our best we probably weren't gonna be good enough, but coming in TAKING DAYS OFF and moping is such a horrible spot on the coaches im surprised the national media aren't running with it.

fellow south jersey bruv, this is the biggest head scratcher to me in 2018 we slapped together a rag tag d squad while deep in cap jail, and they were 2nd in the nfl on d. trash bags like star and that LB we signed from washington who had no knees left. houghs on his last legs (decent) rook edmunds, young young milano, tre was decent, and we had our safeties, but also levi wallace. it honestly seems to me like the joy of the 1 of 11 mcd/frazier d scheme is it can run well if everyone does their job w not superior talent. it's pretty clear that with more investment we don't get better results (save the obvious impact of a top pass rusher), so that's where we should look to save, if anywhere. of course, that means we dump millions and tons of picks into the line where guys don't paly more than 40% of the snaps in a game, but have scrubs and fat bodies on the OL.

i honestly think the optimal move would be to replace the whole FO with better people right now. i don't think that's in the cards, and probably not even possible. next best would be to keep the non coaching FO, and ditch the coaches. again, i think mcclaps is the boss at one bills drive and no shot they can him. next ideal would be to keep mcclap, fore both OC and DC and bring in someone good (reich, roman?) and either have mcd run the d or bring in a new DC. I don't think a HC stays and fires everyone else. so it kinda leaves us with the perfect scape goat play, mcd fires frazier and keeps dorsey (dorsey might deserve another chance, i dunno). now, the worst possible outcome, because it would be so cowardly, is not standing pat, it is firing the OC and keeping frazier. that's what rex ryan did when he fired roman after we lost to the jets in an absolute shoot out.

we heard from saffold, and it was implied by diggs and millano's comments, that our players skipped a practice day and didn't really want to play. dorsey went to NC was it on saturday to interview? we can see from the formations and plays called that the coaches didn't really want to coach either. i really wasn't thinking we should fire everyone before, but given that motivation preparation and play calls all come from the coaches, i think there must 100% be some dramatic changes in coaching and perhaps a full one (but that i do not expect at all).

our coaches are arrogant in their schemes and arrogant in who gets burn. they platoon linemen, will play star over like phillips back in the day for no good reason, it takes months for our 1st round corner to get burn over absolute scrubs and x rhodes for some reason, cook had to ride the pine because he fumbled his first snap, we were starting friggen peterman over 1st round allen, we did some goofy rotation thing at right tackle w cody ford and that old guy we signed. like, then we brought back 4 cast offs this season, when we were supposed to be in teh super bowl, 2 on DL where we put in so many picks and fa money!!! the other two on wr, for our top flight qb. how is a young guy gonna work his way onto this team? i don't think they are given a chance as much as they should, and it results in us blowing money on jag role players who fit the scheme.

whoever hung that cowboys football pennant thing on the wall gets full marks, barely moved!