colin

we were the same dang thing on d in 2018, with much less invested in the D. 2nd overall in yards, got trucked by physical teams who can run the ball up the middle (which imo the biggest reason we lost today. take that away and maybe we hit the qb on 3rd and long w the back OL and get a turnover and the O catches fire). our stupid scheme/never adjusting vs good teams has murdered us 4 times in the playoffs. we can have a kinda sorta d performance at home in the playoffs w less investment on the D, but an extra actual NFL starting WR (we brought back the ghost of Brown and the corpse of Bease this season for crying out loud) and two linemen who can smash and run, and all of a sudden we might be able to run directly up the gut, execute an actual screen play, and not watch davis drop perfect pass after perfect pass when diggs gets erased by the D.

d meltdowns and bad situational play, that's been the downfall of our team. we all thought if we could just get home we can make it to the bowl, but we have lost a game at home EVERY YEAR to a physical team in bad weather. EVERY FLIPPIN YEAR! im sick of this fake tough guy chest out and goofing around while we beat up the sisters of the weak and poor to just hiding when it rains a bit and a team w some blockers (even 3rd stringers like cinci!) comes to town. we need to sign some butt kickers and we need to ditch frazier.

I think this is actually correct Opie, the team was mentally done. just another reason we need some coaching changes. at the very least let frazer take a walk and have claps take over the d (not ideal, but a change is needed). i was looking over some stuff, and we had the number 2 d in the nfl in 2018, josh's rookie year. our o was perhaps the worst, and we had cheeks for wr/te, and o line. free agent (from the prior year) safeties poyer and hyde were our starters, levi and tre white (before he lost his mojo) at corner, rookie lb edmunds who had no clue in a lot of games, milano started getting burn, and we had a rag tag of zero stars in a rotation at DL. basically, we got the same friggen results (which were over all awesome at the time given who we had, i will admit) on D that we get now, but we have added 2 2nds, 2 1sts, and big free agent money to the line, a 3rd at lb (riding the pine) a couple late picks at S (stinking when our starter gets hurt) and a 1st and some late picks at corner. we got trucked by running teams who can pass some then, we get trucked by running teams who can pass some now. i don't know if it's all on mcd, frazer, or whatever mix, but we simply have not added enough physicality to our D line, and we spend way way too much money on non elite smaller guys who play off of the ball. as far as cinci balling all over us w ups drivers at OL, its pretty clear our O roster and our O scheme is simply not good enough. we are a front running emotional team, and that can get us down badly, and allen bails out bad coaching and roster moves or else we get crushed by good teams.

i had my suspicions but didn't really agree w you at the time, but ya i think we have an issue. that issue is scheme/roster arrogance/inability to adapt. we do one thing only, any good coach and team that has some differentiation in their strategy will just say "oh, lets block them up like this and run mixon up the gut for 10 a clip" and we just sit there and clap about it. as bad as the O was, and it sucked, as unprepared as we were for the snow, and we went skating, and as deadly as the cincy passing game is it was the up the gut move the chains bully the line backers plays that guaranteed us the loss. im sick of any team with a couple quality big 10 interior linemen and a physical back eating our lunch. this has happened literally every single year that mccoach has been here.

that's a great point. here's my read on that: We had some guys banged a little bit on the DL, jones is our big nasty and he was out. hyde obv out at S, and von out changed who we could put on the pitch. but OL were out for cinci too. our problem is we have these "scheme" guys, instead of more just big strong guys (or fast, or whatever). anyone being out and our princess and the pea scheme just won't work, and it also limits our ability to change it up. cinci scouted us, knew what we wanted to do on o and on d formation by formation, and just took our lunch money, with back ups. we get boat raced by guys who will adjust blocking and run up the gut too much, we need a new dc AT LEAST.

Fact dude. We have had worse seasons wrt how we ended them since 2020 w our loss at KC. Our d was ranked 2 in 2018, with young scrubs who we ended up paying. Our team is like a one note band, and we can't adapt. That's on coaching and the fo.

He should be dejected, every single year his team gets blown out by a physical team, and he loses with his coaches looking a mess in the playoffs.

You are likely right, but a change is needed. Some young DC who does analysis to be an avatar for our hc (like dude in KC for Reid) can work. I just need a change.

We get trucked by a physical team running down our throats every year w McDermott. This year, it happened today. Since we got diggs and Allen, it has been 2020 Ten and to some extend KC the next week, and then in the playoffs Indy trucked us a bit but we got lucky. 2021 Indy absolutely just destroyed us mind body and soul at home in the rain. 2022 Cinci at home in a playoff game All of these games started off w the bills getting trucked and stayed that way. The truth is our coaches are stubborn and arrogant. They do so little actual game planning, and instead just run their magic system all the time. We draft and sign players based on our moron schemes, so much so we had to sign brown and bease, and Phillips and Lawson this season! This is bill parcels levels of stocking to your old guys, but parcels won Superbowls and we haven't sniffed one. They say this team is designed, players and schemes, means we have no room to change jack nor cope when guys go down. Cinci had young and banged up corners, and three fricken linemen missing, but they just knew to be physical w our princess of a team. We had no answers at all. On the other side, our OL was fully up and running, and they sucked out loud. The idea that we HAVE to pay Edmunds a billion dollars because our scheme is so impossible that we cant run it without his unique talent of getting good regular season stats and getting blasted in the playoffs is a reflection of the good money after bad moves we make. Baltimore is in a better position right now to win a chip than we are, for example. While they have a gimmick O and don't have their rb/QB signed, and just canned their DC and OC in consecutive seasons, they played better w more heart than we ever did vs the bengals, and have real linemen and leadership in their building. We are soft finesse front runners who rely on Allen to rescue our crap every game. I'd sign Roman, or whoever, and whatever dc we can get (or have mcd run the d, I don't care, some kind of change) because our team is ready to be beat by any team that can be physical, and we have all these resources tied up in these goofy small scheme specific people (our safties, lbs, corners, and linemen cost a ton and we never see to get more than one for two of them to play at a high level).

He was past the corner and the ball hit him prefect

It was risky, but honestly I think Dorsey is our least bad coach. We needed a huge play, the play call worked, the ball hit Davis on the hands and chest, but he dropped it because he's not a good wr.

So, we need 4 miracles in a row here, two on D and two on o. We simply don't have a good team. We have a lot of heart, and super man at QB, but our wrs aren't good, oline is worse than Bengals w 4 back ups, our dl is all top picks and money and they suck, and our secondary is soft. Allen and his contract (we haven't had the big numbers hit yet) have saved our trash front office. I'm over them

I've seen enough. Even if we somehow win this game, our hc and dc aren't good enough. So many resources and no results.

Hill was holding on Knox so bad

Need a TD here as much as we have needed a TD ever!

He's simply not an impact player in our rotation.

We need to adjust to the weather and our opponent. It seems like the team has been arrogant, they said as much at press conferences -- stay aggressive on O, same stuff on D. We need the half time adjustment of all half time adjustments right here!

Defensive HC and a DC w HC experience, and if we lose this it's the 3rd year in a row our most expensive D in the NFL got boat races in the playoffs. It should result in changes, if it happens. Gosh instill hope we win!

If we lost a lot of talent on our d, what results would change? If we put some resources towards ol, we might win more

We just dont have good big guys. Back up chumps out play our OL and DL

I have to stop being nervous as a fan and try to just enjoy it. I've been saying we are a super bowl team all year. Well now we have a shot to double dip and make it a reality (obv to win more than just today). Lets see what we got

Based on the two non tds last week, that's not a catch

We are getting out schemed hard. Running up the gut for easy yards with a decimated ol? Just should not happen

How did a fourth ol for them get hurt and we get no push?

Ok, good d drive followed by good I drive, we just have to keep this going. I like the dement physical push in the red zone too. Lfg